The Falklands Conflict

[DuckofTindalos]

Heh... Let's see how your air force would like to play with THOSE.[:D]

[GreyFox]

..oh no, stupidty was not her problem..

Smart people can also make stupid mistakes - just look at the McCanns (if their story is true) leaving their three children alone in a house while they go out for dinner. Sympathetic sure (again if their story is true) but sympathy only goes so far.

When the British were unloading their troops and we bombed them the 1st day many of the bombs didn´t explode. This was reported on the BBC. The next day Argentina bombed again and all the bombs exploded I think. The British were angry because they believed/believe Argentina heard the original BBC broadcast and changed the bomb fuses.

This is not true and the people from that Squadron that did the bombing will tell you it's not true.

Many of these people are still alive and some of
them active on Argentine forums. They give out their
e-mails to some and speak. Offer their insight and so on. So just to clear that up for my British friends about bombs and the BBC. The BBC broadcast had no bearing on bombs exploding when you were unloading.

Whether the Argentinians heard it or not doesn't matter. What does matter is that giving out information that can be helpful to the enemy in a time of war can and does get your people killed and is treason.

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: Ike99


Well you right about this. Invading soverign territory is bad, as is invading another countrys airspace. Bad...very bad...an unjust thing. That's why the Brits need to take their Tornados back to to the UK where they belong and out of our airspace.

I think you will find that you're chaps need to take their 'planes out of our airspace. As the Falklands are internationally recognised as British sovereign territory the airspace above them is ours too.
Unless you are implying that the Tornadoes are flying over Buenos Aires from the islands?

As for the Belgrano sinking, there is no point persisting with the arguement that it is some kind of war crime.

[GreyFox]

I've never ever ever heard of somebody complaining that their warship was sunk by the enemy and calling them cheaters. That 'exclusion zone' stuff was a load of bollocks to begin with.

Hell, the Argentinians sunk a british cargo ship outside of the 'exclusion zone' but I don't hear any British complaining about it or calling it a warcrime.

[JudgeDredd]

Well...seeing as it's not heading back on topic anytime soon....

When I was in the Falklands in 1985, there was a guy there from Buckie, in Scotland called, erm.....Buckie. He took me down Stanley one evening for a few jars of the old amber nectar (I cannot for the life of me remember what Penguin Beer tasted like...suffice it to say it wasn't very appealing to the taste buds.)

Anyway, we were going down Stanley. There were 3 pubs in Stanley (I think only 3) and I cannot remember the names of them. But there was a big hill in Stanley going down to the jetty and half way (or so) down this hill was one of the pubs. The second (Penguin Arms??) was at the bottom of the hill on the right and the third was...somewhere.

anyway, we got to the top of the hill and the road was covered in ice. I was like "I aint going down there". Well, it was Buckies second tour...and he had a novel way of getting down to the pub. He said "Squat down and slide, as you get near, just grab hold of the fence and you'll swing in". Well I was like "Go on then, hero"....so he did.

I've never seen anything so elegant. Clearly he had practiced this maneuver. Now, being as I had had a few sherberts before, I wasn't thinking "Yeah, but he's practiced that!....I was thinking "Hey...that's easy peasy lemon squeezy"....so off I go.

Except I was nowhere near the fence...and not getting any closer...I ended up I clipped a boulder of somesort and went crashing into someones fence....well past the pub. Did untold damage to the fence and knocked a tooth out.

Very dangerous place, The Falklands [:D]

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: Ike99

ORIGINAL: Ike99
Unless of course we killed 2 of our own pilots during the conflict so we could say we attacked Invincible.

Why not? You threw people out of planes into the sea.

70,000
(Cough cough)
Iraqis dead
(Cough cough)
to
(Cough cough)
¨free¨ them
(Cough cough)
aka steal oil
(Cough cough)

So spare me the morality lecture mate.

How many Germans died before they were freed from the stranglehold of a military dictatorship they had allowed to take them over?

How many Japanese died before they were freed from the stranglehold of a military oligarchy they had allowed to take them over?

I never cease to be amazed by how thoroughly clueless people who play military strategy games can actual be about military strategy.

It is understandable for the average non-military history oriented village idiot walking the streets to be clueless regarding military strategy. For the same to be said about people who profess an interest in, and a knowledge of military strategy to be just as cluless is just plain sad.

"Freeing" the Iraqis and dealing with the "threat" of WMDs were never, NEVER anything more than pretexts for a necessary military strategy. Anyone with more than three functional brain cells and even the most rudimentary knowledge of military strategy knows this to be self evident. The constant "moralizing" of those who bear grudges against, or suffer from envy of, the United States of America attempting to "rub our noses" in the inherent untruth behind those publicly professed "reasons" for the invasion only succeed in casting a spotlight on their own gullibility and lack of understanding.

[Ike99]

Judge Dredd-The second (Penguin Arms??) was at the bottom of the hill on the right and the third was...somewhere.

Speaking of Penquins and the Malvinas....

[:D][:D][:D][:D]

[7th Somersets]

See, they even had to restrain the penguins! [:)]

[Ike99]

See, they even had to restrain the penguins!

[:D][:D][:D][:D]

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: 7th Somersets

See, they even had to restrain the penguins! [:)]

Well, penguins can be vicious if not restrained...[:D]

[7th Somersets]

Well, penguins can be vicious if not restrained...[:D]

 
Finally - we get back to the subject matter of the thread!  [:'(]

[DuckofTindalos]

It must be embarrassing for an army to be attacked by vicious waterfowl...[8|]

[7th Somersets]

It must be embarrassing for an army to be attacked by vicious waterfowl...[8|]

 
And it took 5 of them to capture him...
 
It is also against the Geneva Convention to parade POWs. [:-]

[DuckofTindalos]

Yeah, and make use of them in propaganda broadcasts... WAR CRIME! WAR CRIME! WAR CRIME!

[anarchyintheuk]

I think the penguin is actually a fifth column element.

[Jeffrey H.]

ORIGINAL: Ike99

See, they even had to restrain the penguins!

[:D][:D][:D][:D]

I've heard of choking a chiken before but a Penguin ???

[PunkReaper]

Penguins have feelings[:-]

[borner]

never seen troops having to forage for penguins before. [X(]

[Neilster]

This sort of bully-boy, Argie behaviour drove more and more penguins to join the resistance. Also, the vast majority of penguins practised passive resistance by pretending not to understand instructions, going fishing instead of building fortifications and causing several nasty sprains by crapping all over the rocks to make them slippery.

Cheers, Neilster

[105mm Howitzer]

ORIGINAL: Ike99

Sprior-Nobody here has ever said the FAA din't try and sink the Invincible.

Yes they did. Here is Dixies comment....

Dixie-I could claim to be Lord Lucan, it doesn't make it so...Here's some authentic Argie footage of the attack.

BTW Dixie the last comment on that page is in english and says....

¨The propaganda of English is still worse than that of the Argentinian Generals of the time. Everyone knows now that the Invincible had been seriously struck.¨[:D][:D]


And here is a modern video of some of the ¨chimpanzees¨ training you boys are up against with the largest airforce south of Texas in this ongoing conflict.

Hmmm...maybe it was some of these ¨chimpanzees¨ who overflew the Malvinas (british admitted) last year that you Brits couldn´t catch in your Tornados. [;)]

Grupo 4 De Caza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jBKoP1rPkM

Ok, just watched that video. Pretty decent. Maybe you could loan it to the RCAF for recruiting purposes? ( for any who may wonder, I haven't seen a REAL recruiting ad in a long time. But hey, it IS Canada we talking about)
Still, gotta wonder, pretty old jets there...Whatever happened to your Mirage 2000s?