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RE: Heavy fighting in Luzon

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Slowly moving the 5th Div to Manila. This is one of the last major reinforcements to Luzon.

In India I'm trying to create a defense in depth. All major bases with 9 forts will at least
be defended by a Bde size battlegroup and base force units. Will slowly fall back upon Bombay and Karachi.
Andy will have to fight really hard to get them.

2 major LCU units have reached India marching from Burma. Moving on the last para(sit) position blocking
their road.

Finished upgrading all Zeke units to A7M2. One 'regular' A6M5 Daitai remains - it doesn't upgrade to anything else.
Then we got the numersou A6M5 kami units. When we run out of A6M5s in the pools and - if - we get a large surplus of
Reppus, we may create some A7M2 kami units.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/26/45

Air Combat

Quiet day in the air!

Luzon

Enemy continues to hit San Marcelino!

Day Air attack on San Marcelino , at 43,50

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 25

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 24
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India

Day Air attack on 9th Australian Division, at 23,20

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 35
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Ki-67 Peggy x 28

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 82215 troops, 935 guns, 626 vehicles, Assault Value = 1912

Defending force 63072 troops, 612 guns, 147 vehicles, Assault Value = 1331

Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1
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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 130734 troops, 1177 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 3106

Defending force 94980 troops, 787 guns, 318 vehicles, Assault Value = 1884


Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35620 troops, 390 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3115

Defending force 67071 troops, 656 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1262

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
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1st Armoured

Thinking about moving the 1st Pz Div from Iwo to Kwantung!
It's a strong formation and I'm already moving 4 tank regiments to Kwantung as a mobile
reserve. A tank corps should be a useful asset against the massive Red Armies. WitP doesn't
difference between JSIII and JapCrap tanks as far as I know [8|]

Some 1860 AP at Iwo, and the enemy is pinned. With Shindens in the air, I doubt Andy want
a rematch. 1st Panzer is maybe 400 AP. What do you think - should we withdraw it?



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RE: Heavy fighting in Luzon

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The negative numbers is a consequence of too many ac being lost [8|]
The total score is right though....

Think this is the bloodiest WitP game ever. Uber CAP has claimed tens of thousands of ac! [:o]

What is the true number lost and when did the negative score appear? By my math (which is always fuzzy at best) I estimate you must have lost about 63,000 AC. That would be bloody. [X(]
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RE: Heavy fighting in Luzon

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Thinking about moving the 1st Pz Div from Iwo to Kwantung!
It's a strong formation and I'm already moving 4 tank regiments to Kwantung as a mobile
reserve. A tank corps should be a useful asset against the massive Red Armies. WitP doesn't
difference between JSIII and JapCrap tanks as far as I know

It does differentiate between differing tank types (see the database or the plane/ground info screen in game) not sure JS3 is in there though, might just be t34's , but even so should be better than the 'japcrap' you so rightly name [:D]. How the game handles differant tanks is another matter however and i suspect that numbers may be way more important than type. So with that thinking I'd sent it to confront the red tide (whilst crossing fingers and patting a large oak tree for good luck)
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit :)
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RE: Heavy fighting in Luzon

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rejoice, iirc there wont be any ISIIIs,
just 2300 T34/85, 600 SU100 plus some 150 ISU122/152 and 400 SU76[8|]

thatd be a real Panzerblitz [:D]
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RE: Heavy fighting in Luzon

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The negative numbers have been around for a year or so!
Both sides have lost large number of ac indeed.

I hear lots of talk about this Red Juggernaut, but have someone ever tried to fight it with anything
else than useless reserve/garrison units in the 45 scenario?

Even 3500 enemy tanks can be stopped, and I'm determined to do my best/worst!
With 4-500 JapCrap tanks (that may not be treated different in combat than T-34/85s) we may be able to
stop the enemy if we can win air superiority with out new Uber fighters [;)]

Remember a tank vs tank test on the forum some time ago; it was found that putting a certain number of
Jap tanks up against a certain number of Russian tanks caused almost the same casualties on both sides!?
Can anyone remember/confirm this?

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/27/45

Night Air Combat

Heavy night terror attacks!

Night Air attack on Nagasaki , at 58,42

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 85

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 11 damaged

Manpower hits 86
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Day Air Combat

Luzon

Andy is planning something against San Marcelino!

Day Air attack on San Marcelino , at 43,50

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 20

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 30
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Day Air attack on 55th Ind.Mixed/A Brigade, at 43,50

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 35
F6F Hellcat x 11
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
TBM Avenger x 20
Kittyhawk III x 5
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 6
P-40N Warhawk x 6
P-38J Lightning x 10
P-47D Thunderbolt x 9
A-26B Invader x 95
PB4Y Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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India/Burma

Our surprise Andaman Island strike will force Andy to move more fighters there to cover his
shuttles to India!

Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
Spitfire XIV x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
APD Overton, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,37

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3
G4M2e Betty x 5
P1Y Frances x 12
Ki-67 Peggy x 6

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged
G4M2e Betty: 3 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 7 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Kwajalein, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
LCI LCI-329
LCI(G) LCI(G)-467

Aircraft Attacking: - crack Betty's trying to release a couple of Ohka....miss as usual!
1 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing
1 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing
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This strike could have been diverted against the wounded cve Kwajalein!

Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 8
P1Y Frances x 27

Allied aircraft
Spitfire XIV x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 24 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire XIV: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Frank Norris
DE Stadtfeld
DMS Chandler
LSD Cabildo
AP Cape San Juan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DE Martin
LSD Ashland
AK Utahan
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
Spitfire XIV x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
APD Overton, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 2
P1Y Frances x 6

Allied aircraft
Spitfire XIV x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Cape Neddick
DE Fleming
DE Martin
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 5
G4M2e Betty x 2
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Allied aircraft
Spitfire XIV x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed


Allied Ships
AK Ida M. Tarbell
DE Fleming
DE Martin
AK Joe Fellows
DE Seid

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68038 troops, 851 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1914

Defending force 63163 troops, 611 guns, 147 vehicles, Assault Value = 1328

Allied ground losses:
87 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 131519 troops, 1194 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 3167

Defending force 95686 troops, 799 guns, 319 vehicles, Assault Value = 1901

Japanese ground losses:
218 casualties reported
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Ground combat at San Marcelino

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4238 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Defending force 5968 troops, 58 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 129

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Kwajalein is hit!

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RE: Heavy fighting in Luzon

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18k AP in Kwantung by now! Moving Base Forces to all major defensive areas.
Soon Shinden conversion for the region will begin.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/28/45

Sub/ASW Attacks

ASW attack near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese Ships
SS I-49, hits 20, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*

Allied Ships
LSD Ashland
LSV Monitor
LSV Ozark
LSV Catskill
AP Menard
AP Renville
AP Henrico
DMS Chandler
DE Stadtfeld
DE Seid
DE Sanders
DE Rall
DE Mitchell
DE William C. Miller
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Night Air Combat

Night Air attack on Nagasaki , at 58,42

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 3

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 44

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 5 damaged

Manpower hits 37
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Day Air Combat

India/Burma

Rangoon bombers found targets at Bangkok...with little luck.

Day Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 9
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 17

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 15
P-38J Lightning x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 9 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 11 destroyed
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Day Air attack on 9th Australian Division, at 23,20

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 11
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 15
Ki-67 Peggy x 33

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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This was in fact a just in time unloading... the remaining units of the 7th Tank Reg.
was aboard this slow transport just as enemy cv's steamed back from the Arabian Sea.
It unloaded in the nick of time and the 7th is now reforming!

Day Air attack on TF, near Trimcomalee at 15,25

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 9

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 21
F4U-1D Corsair x 22
SB2C Helldiver x 8
TBM Avenger x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M Jack: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Kunimitsu Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Luzon

Day Air attack on San Marcelino , at 43,50

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 17

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 30
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68114 troops, 854 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1915

Defending force 63213 troops, 611 guns, 146 vehicles, Assault Value = 1329

Allied ground losses:
90 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 132379 troops, 1214 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 3225

Defending force 96787 troops, 824 guns, 331 vehicles, Assault Value = 1945

Japanese ground losses:
161 casualties reported
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RE: Heavy fighting in Luzon

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Remember a tank vs tank test on the forum some time ago; it was found that putting a certain number of
Jap tanks up against a certain number of Russian tanks caused almost the same casualties on both sides!?
Can anyone remember/confirm this?


I do seem to recall something about this now you mention it. Although the 'search' function is about as useful as a chocolate fireguard so doubt we'll be seeing it again soon.

Good luck as ever and long live the empire
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit :)
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RE: Heavy fighting in Luzon

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Before activating the Soviets a little earlier than planned, maybe you should start to discuss with Andy everything that has to do with stationing non-soviet air units in soviet airbases - maybe create a rule which limits US air presence to a credible presence? Once the USSR gets available, nothing in the Empire will be out of Allied airmen reach, and you'd better have maximum air reserves by then, as the Home Islands will be turned into a burning hell...
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RE: Heavy fighting in Luzon

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My bad, just read that Andy promised you not to use USAAF units from Soviet held bases. Ok then, that's way cool from him [:)]
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RE: Heavy fighting in Luzon

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Yes Fish, we agreed long time ago that no US bombers were to be based in Soviet bases.
Tensions between US/USSR were growing after the fall of Nazi Germany! So Harbin will be a prime
target for Andy - come he11 & high water!-)

I haven't even tried to search for the tank test post...but I'm positively sure that tank type has just
as much meaning as different types of inf squads in WitP - and that's not much. What counts is numbers.

The Elf has offered me some of his custom made planetops - want to check out late war models.
Will install them as soon as I get them and post screenies! [:)]

Going away on long weekend, so may be reduced activity for a few days.
Been working shifts for 10 days - looking forward to a few beers

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/29/45

Sub/ASW Attacks

Sent 3 subs to Indian waters - this was the second that got blasted...

ASW attack at 23,32

Japanese Ships
SS RO-46, hits 14, heavy damage

Allied Ships
AP Livingston
AP James O'Hara
AP Manunda
AP Sumter
MSW Defense
MSW Scrimage
MSW Saunter
MSW Salute
MSW Scout
MSW Vigilance
DE Tisdale
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Night Air Combat

Tried some day fighters on night CAP...not smart. Only casualties!

Night Air attack on Nagasaki , at 58,42

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 22
J7W Shinden x 10
J1N1-S Irving x 3

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 54

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
J7W Shinden: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged

Manpower hits 28
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Day Air Combat

Luzon

Day Air attack on Lingayen , at 44,50

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 5
B-29 Superfortress x 88

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 44
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 158
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India

Day Air attack on 9th Australian Division, at 23,20

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 24
Ki-67 Peggy x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,26

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied Ships
APD Blessman
APD Newman
APD Bull
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68153 troops, 855 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1918

Defending force 63235 troops, 613 guns, 146 vehicles, Assault Value = 1332

Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 133081 troops, 1236 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 3280

Defending force 97169 troops, 837 guns, 330 vehicles, Assault Value = 1956

Japanese ground losses:
166 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35908 troops, 398 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3162

Defending force 66976 troops, 664 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 1266

Japanese ground losses:
97 casualties reported
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San Marcelino is mountain hex with 9 forts...why does Andy even bother with 1 Bde [&:]

Ground combat at San Marcelino

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 4272 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 110

Defending force 5942 troops, 57 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 129

Allied max assault: 198 - adjusted assault: 52

Japanese max defense: 90 - adjusted defense: 352

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
208 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
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Tankpair

Can anyone see what this is? [:D]

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Can anyone see what this is?[:D]

God... It's not even half the size of a Sherman...
Poor Japanese tankers [X(]
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ORIGINAL: PzB

I haven't even tried to search for the tank test post...
Section II.E, sixth thread from top... [;)]

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Nevermind...
We are all dreams of the Giant Space Butterfly.
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Air & Carrier raid on Tokyo!

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Thx! It was as I remembered it - Quote:

"That was surprising. Little girlie tanks blew the snot out of the T-34s.
Doubt that would have happend historically.
Let's try this again with the Russians attacking.
WitP engine = flip a coin to see who is the victor?"


and...

"So what does this mean?

A tank is most certainly not a tank is most certainly not a tank in this game.....

but....

neither is a tank a Get out of Jail free card either. Your own strategy + terrain + exp + leadership etc etc can override the stats of your tank and mean the difference between a failed (0-1) and a successful attack(1-1 or higher)"


So with a good defensice scheme, terrain and air superiority - I hope to butt the Red Steam Roller!
Yep Fish, little JapCrap girlie tanks are pretty pathetic - even compared to a Ronson <G>

Interesting turn today; Another high risk all out assault on Tokyo by enemy B-29s and Corsairs launched from carriers!!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/30/45

Day Air Combat

Home Islands

131 CAP fighters vs 97 Corsairs and 304 + 140 B-29s = 100 Jap A2A and ca 90 US losses including 56 B-29s!
300 Jap ac destroyed on the ground and airfields are closed!

Day Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 22
A7M2 Reppu x 64
J2M Jack x 13
J7W Shinden x 7
Ki-100 Tony x 25

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 97
B-29 Superfortress x 304

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 26 destroyed
A7M2 Reppu: 36 destroyed <- pilot losses were light
J2M Jack: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
J7W Shinden: 11 destroyed <- mostly on the ground, only 4 in A2A
Ki-100 Tony: 45 destroyed <- some 50 destroyed on the ground forming up in rookie units
E13A1 Jake: 4 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 28 destroyed - some 85 Betties destroyed running supply missions. Have now dispersed them better.
G4M2e Betty: 10 destroyed
J1N1-S Irving: 11 destroyed <- night fighter losses on the ground were very heavy!
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 15 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 12 destroyed
C6N1-S Myrt: 14 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 5 destroyed
B7A Grace: 6 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed
Ki-46-III Dinah: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 34 destroyed, 7 damaged <- sweep was not as effective 'as usual'
B-29 Superfortress: 18 destroyed, 57 damaged <- will take a while to repair all damaged B-29s

Japanese ground losses:
509 casualties reported
Guns lost 14

Airbase hits 44
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 248

Aircraft Attacking:
240 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Our CAP fighters were low on ammo when the follow up attack came in.

Day Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 2
A7M2 Reppu x 12
J2M Jack x 5
J7W Shinden x 1
Ki-100 Tony x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 140

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
J2M Jack: 1 destroyed
J7W Shinden: 1 damaged
Ki-100 Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 6 destroyed, 30 damaged

Manpower hits 148

Aircraft Attacking:
All B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Burma/India

Day Air attack on Krung Thep , at 29,39

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
B-29 Superfortress x 24

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 16
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Day Air attack on 9th Australian Division, at 23,20

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 26
Ki-67 Peggy x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on 9th Australian Division, at 23,20

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 16
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 21
Ki-67 Peggy x 42

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Bonins / Central Pacific

Enemy TFs suddenly appeared SE of Iwo heading West??

Day Air attack on TF at 67,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 18 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Alabama
CA Indianapolis
CA New Orleans
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68166 troops, 853 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 1918

Defending force 63188 troops, 612 guns, 146 vehicles, Assault Value = 1332

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 133595 troops, 1257 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 3313

Defending force 97812 troops, 849 guns, 331 vehicles, Assault Value = 1969

Japanese ground losses:
226 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 36082 troops, 398 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3180

Defending force 66961 troops, 663 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 1268

Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
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We recapture Jorhat - no enemys left. Reinforcements are now marching into India.
Will reinforce all major cities and try to last as long as possible.

Ground combat at Jorhat

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 10208 troops, 114 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 221

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 172 - adjusted assault: 42

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 42 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Jorhat base !!!
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Raid on Tokyo

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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Tokyo!

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I saw that in Andy's thread a couple hours ago. I thought it would be a great move, but the results look a little bit anti-climatic (for him of course [:D]) to me...! Why didn't he target the harbor at all for instance?
The samourais did put up a fairly good show

Sorry I just couldn't release the intel, please don't execute me Master [:D]
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Enemy TFs suddenly appeared SE of Iwo heading West??

Day Air attack on TF at 67,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 18 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Alabama
CA Indianapolis
CA New Orleans
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*Gulp* there was no bomber in alert at Iwo? [:(]
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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Tokyo!

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With a normal range of 1 it's gonna be hard to LRCAP a lot with shindens..
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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Tokyo!

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PzB, Did you get my PM?
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Air & Carrier raid on Gumma!

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Urk, touched the enter button and posted before editing.
Using a laptop for AAR is a Major Pain.

So, we're in July and may be nuked any time....
Andy didn't go home but sent another even larger strike against Gumma!
Not only were there 1 enemy CV TF - there were 2.

The cv's sent 140 Corsairs + Hellcats over Gumma and carnage happened.
22 Shindens caused a lot of damage to enemy and suffered surprisingly small losses.
Most Shinden pilots survive, which is great. 15 Shindens lost in A2A and 3 on the ground.
15 new ones arrived from factories today and all units are filling out. More of that later.

Enemy bombers hit air industries heavily and Shinden production fell to 468 units from
some 500. Andy will have to sacrifice a lot of his best navy pilots to keep it up.
44 Corsairs and 20 Hellcats were shot down today.

A sweep over Tokyo by Black Widdows caused us a 100 fighters!! Really surprised that the
night fighters are so good - even Reppus have a hard time. We downed 64 Widdows and won't
be seeing them again if that's a comfort.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/01/45

Sub/ASW Attacks

Sub attack at 52,41

Japanese Ships
AK Tsukubasan Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-198

Allied Ships
SS Springer
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Day Air Combat

Home Islands

134 fighters on CAP including 22 Shindens meet 140 Corsairs and 29 Hellcats escorting a strike.
112 of out fighters are downed vs. 63 enemy.

Day Air attack on Gumma , at 66,42

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 51
N1K1-J George x 13
J2M Jack x 27
J7W Shinden x 22
Ki-102a Randy x 20

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 29
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 122
Corsair IV x 10
SB2C Helldiver x 45
TBM Avenger x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 45 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 8 destroyed
J2M Jack: 27 destroyed
J7W Shinden: 11 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 21 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 19 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 37 destroyed, 10 damaged
Corsair IV: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
SB2C Helldiver: 3 destroyed, 20 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
104 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 11
Runway hits 11
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Then the B-29s came back and caused damage to our ac industry!

Day Air attack on Gumma , at 66,42

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 7
N1K1-J George x 6
J7W Shinden x 13

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 238

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 3 damaged
N1K1-J George: 1 damaged
J7W Shinden: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed, 16 damaged

hits 75
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This strange sweep over Tokyo surprised me...caused a lot more damage than I expected.
Notice the few Shinden losses:

Day Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 49
J7W Shinden x 16
Ki-100 Tony x 43
Ki-102a Randy x 27

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 1
P-61A Black Widow x 94

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 33 destroyed
J7W Shinden: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-100 Tony: 34 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 30 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-61A Black Widow: 62 destroyed -> THAT gotta hurt!
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A small strike on Tokyo ends the show....

Day Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 17
J7W Shinden x 12
Ki-100 Tony x 10

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 damaged
J7W Shinden: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged

Manpower hits 11 <- thats a lot of hits by 5 B-29s...

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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India/Burma

Our LBA managed to land some hits on enemy convoys enroute to Yanam!

Day Air attack on TF at 23,25

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 7 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Howell Lykes
AK Frank Norris, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Sanders
DE Martin
LSD Gunston Hall
DE Lake
LSD White Marsh

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,25

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 7
P1Y Frances x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 7 damaged
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Tennessean
DE Sanders, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Joe Fellows, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,25

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 9 damaged

Allied Ships
LSD Colonial
AP Menard, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
DE William C. Miller, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68216 troops, 856 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1919

Defending force 63293 troops, 611 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 1331

Allied ground losses:
94 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 134197 troops, 1278 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 3343

Defending force 98405 troops, 864 guns, 339 vehicles, Assault Value = 1986

Japanese ground losses:
112 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 36093 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3199

Defending force 66826 troops, 664 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 1267

Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1
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Battle for Tokyo & Gumma


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RE: Air & Carrier raid on Gumma!

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Yep Ian, got your PM! Looking forward to posting your airtops tomorrow [:)]

Indeed, the Shinden is not a LRCAP fighter...but you should see the baby in A2A battles with
decent pilots - the Corsairs melt under the quad 30 cannons [&o] [:D][8D]

You're forgiven Fish, I did what I could and provided a good LRCAP over Tokyo and maintained an
even stronger CAP over Gumma. Little to do when Andy manage to get of 160 fighters from 2 CV TFs in t-storms [8|]
The results were average - especially against Black Widdows - but Shinden performance boosted morale! Give
us another month and all our major centres will have 50 of them on CAP.

Agree, a port strike against Tokyo would have gutted half our destroyers, a light cruiser and the Kirishima! [:'(]

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This is how the strike looked like!
How can CVs shrouded in during bad weather launch fighter escorts??

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For those of you who like to study A2A claims...

It is interesting to know that the following units are equipped with Shindens:
1. 352 Hikotai
2. 341 Hikotai
3. F4/200 Hikotai

1LT Anderson D. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 4
1LT Barber, R.T. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 16
1LT Blair N. of 421st NFS is credited with kill number 5
1LT Browning A. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Browning A. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 4
1LT Browning A. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 5
1LT Browning B. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 3
1LT Browning B. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 4
1LT Campbell S. of 548th NFS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Campbell S. of 548th NFS is credited with kill number 4
1LT Campbell S. of 548th NFS is credited with kill number 5
1LT Edwards I. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Evans B. of 421st NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Evans B. of 421st NFS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Evans R. of 549th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Farmer D. of 550th NFS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Finley W. of 550th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Franklin H. of 1st FS is credited with kill number 12
1LT Greer E. of 550th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Gregor M. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Gregor M. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Harper O. of 549th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Heath K. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 2
1LT Jackson K. of 419th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Jacobs T. of 550th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Jacobs T. of 550th NFS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Jacobs W. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Johnson O. of 548th NFS is credited with kill number 5
1LT Keith G. of 421st NFS is credited with kill number 6
1LT Keith G. of 421st NFS is credited with kill number 7
1LT Keith G. of 421st NFS is credited with kill number 8
1LT Kimura A. of 105th Ftr.Sentai/C is credited with kill number 3
1LT Koonce F. of 419th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Leach U. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 2
1LT Lindsay S. of 548th NFS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Morgan W. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 4
1LT Morgan W. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 5
1LT Morgan W. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 6
1LT Morrison P. of 1st FS is credited with kill number 12
1LT Morrison P. of 1st FS is credited with kill number 13
1LT Morrison P. of 1st FS is credited with kill number 14
1LT Morrison P. of 1st FS is credited with kill number 15
1LT Reese B. of VMF-422 is credited with kill number 2
1LT Thanos I. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Thanos P. of 1st FS is credited with kill number 8
1LT Vebber P. of 550th NFS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Ward E. of 549th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Webber, D.L. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 17
1LT Williamson A. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 3
1LT Williamson A. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 4
1LT Young G. of 549th NFS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Young G. of 549th NFS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Young G. of 549th NFS is credited with kill number 4
1LT Young R. of 419th NFS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Flowers J. of 549th NFS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Flowers J. of 549th NFS is credited with kill number 3
2LT Flowers J. of 549th NFS is credited with kill number 4
2LT Flowers J. of 549th NFS is credited with kill number 5
2LT Hall L. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 2
2LT Hamilton W. of 550th NFS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Larson T. of 421st NFS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Ohashi K. of 65th Ftr.Sentai/B is credited with kill number 2
2LT Williamson K. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 2
CDR Fujita E. of F1/210th Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 2
CDR Imamura A. of F1/210th Hikotai/B is credited with kill number 3
CDR Matsuo L. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 6 (Shinden)
CDR Matsuo L. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 7 (Shinden)
CDR Matsuo L. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 8 (Shinden)
CDR Okura B. of F1/265th Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 2 (Shinden)
CDR Oyama M. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 3 (Shinden)
CPO Kawasaki V. of F2/352nd Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 13 (Shinden)
CPT Donahue T. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Jackson R. of 550th NFS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Jackson R. of 550th NFS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Peck S. of 550th NFS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Peck S. of 550th NFS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Vebber I. of 548th NFS is credited with kill number 4
CPT Vebber I. of 548th NFS is credited with kill number 5
CPT Vebber I. of 548th NFS is credited with kill number 6
ENS Alford L. of VBF-85 is credited with kill number 5
ENS Henderson J. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 8
ENS Kline N. of VBF-85 is credited with kill number 13
ENS Kline N. of VBF-85 is credited with kill number 14
ENS MacDonald S. of VBF-85 is credited with kill number 9
ENS Parker D. of VBF-81 is credited with kill number 3
ENS Shannon R. of VBF-85 is credited with kill number 4
FLT Trenchard T. of No. 22 RNZAF Sqdn is credited with kill number 8
FO Evans P. of 419th NFS is credited with kill number 2
FO Evans P. of 419th NFS is credited with kill number 3
FO Evans P. of 419th NFS is credited with kill number 4
FO Evans P. of 419th NFS is credited with kill number 5
FO Evans P. of 419th NFS is credited with kill number 6
FO Gregor O. of 3rd FS is credited with kill number 17
FO Gregor O. of 3rd FS is credited with kill number 18
FO Kraemer F. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 12
FO Kraemer F. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 13
FO Kraemer F. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 14
FO Kraemer F. of 35th FG is credited with kill number 15
FO Morgan G. of 549th NFS is credited with kill number 2
FO Simo R. of 419th NFS is credited with kill number 2
FO Wagner T. of VMF-422 is credited with kill number 4
FO Wagner T. of VMF-422 is credited with kill number 5
FO Young H. of 547th NFS is credited with kill number 2
LT Fenwick A. of VBF-85 is credited with kill number 2
LT Fenwick A. of VF-40 is credited with kill number 31
LT Irvine W. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 13
LT Neal C. of VBF-85 is credited with kill number 13
LT Osborne A. of VF-40 is KILLED
LT Randall P. of VF-12 is credited with kill number 8
LTJG Allison M. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 10
LTJG Allison M. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 8
LTJG Allison M. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 9
LTJG Barnes L. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 2
LTJG Black L. of VBF-81 is credited with kill number 2
LTJG Cummings J. of VBF-83 is credited with kill number 2
LTJG Ferguson V. of VBF-85 is credited with kill number 11
LTJG Fujita D. of F2/341st Hikotai/C is credited with kill number 3 (Shinden)
LTJG Ibusuki G. of F2/332nd Daitai is credited with kill number 2
LTJG Ibusuki G. of F2/332nd Daitai is credited with kill number 3
LTJG Ichimura B. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 2 (Shinden)
LTJG Ichimura B. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 3 (Shinden)
LTJG Jeffries D. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 7
LTJG Jensen C. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 2
LTJG Katsuma U. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 2 (Shinden)
LTJG Katsuma U. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 3 (Shinden)
LTJG Kumagaya R. of F2/341st Hikotai/C is credited with kill number 5 (Shinden)
LTJG Maki I. of F1/210th Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 2
LTJG Matsumoto B. of F1/210th Hikotai/B is credited with kill number 4
LTJG Morton O. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 2
LTJG Nakasawa S. of F1/210th Hikotai/B is credited with kill number 3
LTJG O'Neill H. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 13
LTJG Riley F. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 10
LTJG Riley F. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 9
LTJG Walton N. of VBF-84 is credited with kill number 3
PO1 Minegishi F. of F1/265th Hikotai/C is credited with kill number 3
PO1 Minegishi F. of F1/265th Hikotai/C is credited with kill number 4
PO2 Araki J. of F1/265th Hikotai/C is credited with kill number 6
PO2 Endo I. of F1/265th Hikotai/B is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Hirata M. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 5 (Shinden)
PO2 Hirata M. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 6 (Shinden)
PO2 Hirata M. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 7 (Shinden)
PO2 Kamihira H. of F2/341st Hikotai/B is credited with kill number 5 (Shinden)
PO2 Kaneko B. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 3 (Shinden)
PO2 Kojima V. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 6 (Shinden)
PO2 Kojima V. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 7 (Shinden)
PO2 Kojima V. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 8 (Shinden)
PO2 Mikami K. of F2/341st Hikotai/C is credited with kill number 10 (Shinden)
PO2 Mikami K. of F2/341st Hikotai/C is credited with kill number 9 (Shinden)
PO2 Minowa I. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 4 (Shinden)
PO2 Minowa I. of F2/341st Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 5 (Shinden)
PO2 Morita T. of F1/265th Hikotai/B is credited with kill number 2 (Shinden)
PO2 Muranaka R. of F4/210th Hikotai/A is credited with kill number 6 (Shinden)
PO2 Nomura I. of F1/265th Hikotai/C is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Sakai D. of F1/265th Hikotai/B is credited with kill number 2
WO of is credited with kill number 0 [&:]
WO Higashiyama N. of 105th Ftr.Sentai/C is credited with kill number 2
WO Higashiyama N. of 105th Ftr.Sentai/C is credited with kill number 3
WO Mitsumoto E. of 65th Ftr.Sentai/A is credited with kill number 2
WO Taniguchi G. of 105th Ftr.Sentai/A is credited with kill number 2

Ca 25/145 A2A kills were made by ca 35 Shindens in the air while suffering 15 friendly losses.
Doesn't sound great - but enemy came in great numbers with his best ac and pilots and I counted no more
than 7-8 missing Shinden pilots.

Just shows that we need to get more Shindens in the air if we are to prevent the terror bombers from terrorising the Home Islands!
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