P-39 vs. P-40...

[panda124c]

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

"Oh yea the AVG thought they were slighted because they did not get the Buffalos until Rangoon."


I'm not sure that I understand this comment. When did the AVG get Buffalos? Are you saying that they wanted Buffalos and were upset at getting P40s instead?

They did not get Buffalos but thought the Buffalos were better than the P-40 until Rangoon, where they saw the RAF Buffalos slaughtered by the Japanese fighters.

[trollelite]

Cobra is useless in the game. Even buffalos are better than them. This may sound strange, but it's a fact. Against zero, they both have no chance, but P-39 perform bad even against unescorted D3A or B5N, while at least Brewster 339 is deadly in such case.

[Speedysteve]

ORIGINAL: trollelite
but P-39 perform bad even against unescorted D3A or B5N, while at least Brewster 339 is deadly in such case.

Evidence???? Not in my books in the 100's of AAR's i've seen of this.

[Speedysteve]

By the way good name....fitting[;)]

[trollelite]

 I would post a screen shot later. My dutch brewster shoot down almost 100 Jap AC, most of them carrier bombers, I think. My opponent make error by using only a dozen zero on escort, which was destroyed by P-40, and then the massacre began. In china, PI aircobra engage unescorted obsolete dive bombers, with disappointing result, in my opinion they are much worse than chinese I-16 .

[Speedysteve]

I've generally found non-fatigued P39's are very effective against enemy bombers. Their cannon armament makes short work of the flimsy Japanese airframes. I'd be intrigued to see your results on this one. Sure if it's an isolated incident or with say 20 P39's that are fatigued and with rookie pilots then that's a bit different.

[trollelite]

Some planes are poor against fighter, but relatively deadly to unescorted bombers. But there are several Fighters or FB cannot shot down anything, most notabaly wirraway, I think with their 37 mm cannon cobra should be better, but it's not. Perhaps 37mm not too accurate, but they still have their .5 nose MG.....

[trollelite]

Sorry perhaps it's because of CHS. But I never impressed by aircobra anyway. And PI pilots not too good, but dutch exp also rather low.

[niceguy2005]

ORIGINAL: trollelite

Some planes are poor against fighter, but relatively deadly to unescorted bombers. But there are several Fighters or FB cannot shot down anything, most notabaly wirraway, I think with their 37 mm cannon cobra should be better, but it's not. Perhaps 37mm not too accurate, but they still have their .5 nose MG.....

In game terms I have seen P-39s destroy outright unescorted bombers. If a P-39 can catch a bomber (i.e. the bombers aren't flying high altitude) they are very effective. I once watched 24 P-39s shoot down 48 exploding cigars.

[niceguy2005]

ORIGINAL: trollelite

Sorry perhaps it's because of CHS. But I never impressed by aircobra anyway. And PI pilots not too good, but dutch exp also rather low.

In game terms any unit can become quite experienced. I have had some Dutch pilots survive to get well into the 70s. If you have used your Dutch units excessively their exp can be quite high.

[trollelite]

Really? that's must be exciting. But in our game we are not allowed to use quick update way ( i.e some squadron down to obsolete ware in USA and other update in SEA in the same time)

[niceguy2005]

ORIGINAL: trollelite

Really? that's must be exciting. But in our game we are not allowed to use quick update way ( i.e some squadron down to obsolete ware in USA and other update in SEA in the same time)

I was not talking about plane upgrades.

[trollelite]

No, you don't but this mean I could only deploy low-exp cobra squadron in the opening month.

[bradfordkay]

What low experience PI P-39 squadron? The only PI squadron I know of is the peashooter squadron (P-26).