AB Extended Map--Problem
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AB Extended Map--Problem
Hi. I am trying to install AB's Extended Map so I can load Big B's 1.4 Mod and I cannot get past a problem.
I am computer challenged so bear with me. This is what I have done:
1. As per the instructions, I loaded the regular AB map first. No problem.
2. On loading the the Extended Map, I get this message: Back-Up to official game art has not been found. A back-up can be created now press 'b' for yes and 'q' to quit.
I press b and NOTHING happens. The only action I get is when I press q and it quits.
Help!
I am computer challenged so bear with me. This is what I have done:
1. As per the instructions, I loaded the regular AB map first. No problem.
2. On loading the the Extended Map, I get this message: Back-Up to official game art has not been found. A back-up can be created now press 'b' for yes and 'q' to quit.
I press b and NOTHING happens. The only action I get is when I press q and it quits.
Help!

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RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
Do you have more than one copy of WitP installed?
Andrew
Andrew
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No I do not.
How do I do that? Do I retitled the WitP install?
How do I do that? Do I retitled the WitP install?

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RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
I just played a turn with Paul Layne and I's long-term campaign and it came up as your map. VERY NICE! Of course it didn't really work with an old stock game...
Might as well ask how you shift back-and-forth with the maps...
Thinking on the earlier question, I could do a second install of WitP with a simple WitP-2 notation and load all my Mods into that. Is that what you were asking Andrew? Feel fairly stupid at the moment!
Might as well ask how you shift back-and-forth with the maps...
Thinking on the earlier question, I could do a second install of WitP with a simple WitP-2 notation and load all my Mods into that. Is that what you were asking Andrew? Feel fairly stupid at the moment!

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RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
So did you get it to work?
Many people prefer having a separate install if they use a mod. To do this, just copy the entire contents of the War in the Pacific folder to another location. The only problem this causes is that it is a bit trickier to load patches into the copied installation.
Otherwise, the "modselect" batch file utility that comes with the map can be used to switch between it and the stock map.
Andrew
Many people prefer having a separate install if they use a mod. To do this, just copy the entire contents of the War in the Pacific folder to another location. The only problem this causes is that it is a bit trickier to load patches into the copied installation.
Otherwise, the "modselect" batch file utility that comes with the map can be used to switch between it and the stock map.
Andrew
RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
I've got the regular AB Map installed. I cannot get the Extended Map added on. It keeps asking what I reported earlier. I would REALLY love to do the Big B Mod using the Extended Map. I am going to create a seperate file for WitP so I can just use one for the Mods and the other for my Stock Games. We'll see what happens.
Andrew--Why would the install file for the Extended Map NOT let me create a back-up like what I described earlier in this posting?
Andrew--Why would the install file for the Extended Map NOT let me create a back-up like what I described earlier in this posting?

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RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
John
I would copy WitP into a second folder and rename it. I have two installs of WitP under the Matrix folder. One is stock (which I have changed over to AB's extended map) and another for CHS. Last night after out PM, I went back to download Big B's and install AB's extended map. The first time I extracted AB's extended, the "Mod Select" did not show the extended map as an option. Go back to the zip file and extract it again to C:\Matrix Games\...(whatever your 2nd install is called) and make sure you have the "overwrite files" box checked.
I also had to copy the original "ART" folder into "My Documents" before I download and installed Big B's. In all, I had to do things twice before the mod and maps were installed. [;)]
Let me know if I can help.
I would copy WitP into a second folder and rename it. I have two installs of WitP under the Matrix folder. One is stock (which I have changed over to AB's extended map) and another for CHS. Last night after out PM, I went back to download Big B's and install AB's extended map. The first time I extracted AB's extended, the "Mod Select" did not show the extended map as an option. Go back to the zip file and extract it again to C:\Matrix Games\...(whatever your 2nd install is called) and make sure you have the "overwrite files" box checked.
I also had to copy the original "ART" folder into "My Documents" before I download and installed Big B's. In all, I had to do things twice before the mod and maps were installed. [;)]
Let me know if I can help.
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Hey Sir!
I have created a second WitP Folder, downloaded AB Regular and Extended, and Brian's 1.4. Now we'll see if it works for installation...
I have created a second WitP Folder, downloaded AB Regular and Extended, and Brian's 1.4. Now we'll see if it works for installation...

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RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
OK. Thsi is what I have done:
1. I have installed the regular map and TRIED to install the Extended Map.
2. I loaded Brian's 1.4 Scen 192 without issue.
3. Loaded the new game with its parameters for the email campaign.
4. The map came up but things are off. I see the Hawaiian Islands but the bases are off. I see the island of Aden as a base but there is no island.
Beyond pulling what little hair out that I have left, does ANYONE know what the issue is? I could send the file--with password--for a person to look at...
1. I have installed the regular map and TRIED to install the Extended Map.
2. I loaded Brian's 1.4 Scen 192 without issue.
3. Loaded the new game with its parameters for the email campaign.
4. The map came up but things are off. I see the Hawaiian Islands but the bases are off. I see the island of Aden as a base but there is no island.
Beyond pulling what little hair out that I have left, does ANYONE know what the issue is? I could send the file--with password--for a person to look at...

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RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
I've had the same thing happen before. [:D][:D]
I "think" the extended map is not properly loaded (Aden and Panama show up) but the shipping channels are missing. Are they?? I got it to work, but I "think" that I had to unzip the extended map file again.
Andrew or another person that is more computer savy will need to give you specifics. [;)]
You could try unzipping the extended map file again and go throug the whole process with the Mod Select and see if that works (it will not hurt
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I "think" the extended map is not properly loaded (Aden and Panama show up) but the shipping channels are missing. Are they?? I got it to work, but I "think" that I had to unzip the extended map file again.
Andrew or another person that is more computer savy will need to give you specifics. [;)]
You could try unzipping the extended map file again and go throug the whole process with the Mod Select and see if that works (it will not hurt
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I'll try it again.

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RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
Tried it again and I still get this message: Back-Up to official game art has not been found. A back-up can be created now press 'b' for yes and 'q' to quit.
I press b and NOTHING happens. The only action I get is when I press q and it quits.
This must be the issue. It will not let me go forward with the completion of the install.
I press b and NOTHING happens. The only action I get is when I press q and it quits.
This must be the issue. It will not let me go forward with the completion of the install.

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RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
On this new install, in the ART folder, do you have the following folders: Backup, Map_Modified_v6, Map_Modified_v6x, & Maps Official??
Plus, if you go down to the bottom of the ART folder, you'll see a series of map sections. Make sure you have WITP00 and WITN00 that show Aden with the shipping channels. This will indicate you have both AB and AB extended downloaded.
If any of these are missing you may have to do what I did once. Delete this ART folder and copy the original ART from your stock install into the new install and do the Big B mod and AB thing all over again. [X(] Hopefully, you will not have too.
Plus, if you go down to the bottom of the ART folder, you'll see a series of map sections. Make sure you have WITP00 and WITN00 that show Aden with the shipping channels. This will indicate you have both AB and AB extended downloaded.
If any of these are missing you may have to do what I did once. Delete this ART folder and copy the original ART from your stock install into the new install and do the Big B mod and AB thing all over again. [X(] Hopefully, you will not have too.
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RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Tried it again and I still get this message: Back-Up to official game art has not been found. A back-up can be created now press 'b' for yes and 'q' to quit.
I press b and NOTHING happens. The only action I get is when I press q and it quits.
This must be the issue. It will not let me go forward with the completion of the install.
The automatic installation script only works when installing to your first WitP install, not to any copies.
If you make a copy of WitP, and want to install my maps into the copied game, then you have to do it manually. There are instructions in the readme file, provided with the map, on what has to be placed where using manual installation.
Andrew
RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
I'll try NY Giants thoughts and see.

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RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
Jackpot! NY Giants--Your cliff's notes of what needed to be where did it! I am up and running. Thanks a lot.

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RE: AB Extended Map--Problem
Jackpot! NY Giants--Your cliff's notes of what needed to be where did it! I am up and running. Thanks a lot.
Does that mean you will invade Portland, OR on day one with a NLF and thus allow me to get all my reinforcements 6 months early?? [:D][:D]
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Portland???
No--I have a single I-Boat carrying 1.5 Squards of ELITE Samurai planning on taking the White House the moment after the 14 Part Messge has been delivered to Secretary Hull! We do HAVE to keep up diplomatic protocal. After he reads it--five minutes later--the Samurai go in! Heads will roll...
BANZAI!
You have my opening turn--WHERE IS YOUR RESPONSE??!! Let the bombs fall as cherry blossoms...
No--I have a single I-Boat carrying 1.5 Squards of ELITE Samurai planning on taking the White House the moment after the 14 Part Messge has been delivered to Secretary Hull! We do HAVE to keep up diplomatic protocal. After he reads it--five minutes later--the Samurai go in! Heads will roll...
BANZAI!
You have my opening turn--WHERE IS YOUR RESPONSE??!! Let the bombs fall as cherry blossoms...

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