The kinda sorta AAR.

[bobogoboom]

This will be the AAR for my game as jap v john 3rd.

I see a thread created by john for the game against me. So i will do a AAR that will show my plans. This isn't going to be a full AAR more just for people who are reading johns thread so the have an idea of what i am thinking and what i am doing. i will assume his will have all the details, if it is anything like this AAR v mandrake and tabtub.

Will do the first update tonight.

[Capt. Harlock]

You are correct -- John is being very forthcoming about his plans, much to the benefit of we readers. He also doesn't like cutting and pasting the text of the combat reports, which is nice because we don't have to scroll down line after line of less-important air attacks. A suggestion: you might want to copy just the major combats, such as carrier duels, or surface actions, or the taking of significant ground strongpoints, and paste them into this AAR.

[bobogoboom]

Yeah this is realy just going to be a resource to help people understand what i am doing so they can understand his aar better. I will post major combats and also offensive and defensive plans of mine. Plus since this is my first big b game and first jap game some questions about how to function as japan.

[bobogoboom]

Overall my strategy is to take Malaysia and the sra as soon as humanly possible. Once this is done take the Philippines and the Solomon’s and then reevaluate. I did all the normal landings on the first turn except I canceled the wake landing and held that group in port. I also canceled the landing at the south of Luzon and instead on turn 2 sent the wake attackers to take canton so I can establish a betty base to harass and slow down his shipping and sent the southern Luzon for after ambrosia.

[bobogoboom]

This is the situation in the PI
I have landed small forces at Puerto Princessa and am landing a naval guard and base force next turn at jolo to create a airbase for bettys and to start the clear the PI and DEI of enemy aircraft. I currently have the 2 divisions that start the landings at northern luzon plu 2 more divisions on the way. I want to clear mindanao first so i have sent 1 bde and a full jap divison to attack. the only problem is i forgot to send any ships with supplies. so currently they are holding station till the transports arrive then the will land at cagayn

[bobogoboom]

Malaysia/DEI
The 4th mixed brigade is preping for batavia.
meanwhile i have landed 2 bdes with another on the way at kauten to hopefully cut off some of his retreating forces i have 2 division and a tank reg crossing the thai/malay boarder next turn and they will proceed down the west side of the country to isolate singers. hopefully this force will be strong enough to take singapore. I have setup air bases at both of my captured bases and will be starting a heavy air campain to destroy brit airpower at singapore in 2 turns. also i am sending the nlf snlf and naval guard units to capture the small bases on the northern coast i have also dispatched the mini kb to patrol these waters and make the capture of this area quicker. The brunie landings are not doing so well i forgot to include supplies again with this landing[:@]. anm air dropping supplies in hopefully they can capture the base next turn.

[bobogoboom]

Southern DEI
have landed and captured amboina and will be moving a aviation reg in there in 2 turn will be moving at least 2 squadrons of bettys/nells to shut down shipping in this area. had a ap and a msw sunk when my invasion force meet pt boats at manado am sending a dd and a dd/cl sctf to deal with this. also a kendari invasion force is about 5 turns out. I want to shut down the ability to resupply java asap as such the kb is on the way back to japan to replace plane losses and refuel and will be heading for the dei imediatly afterwards.

[bobogoboom]

SWPAC
amd sending the south sea detachment plus a ca screening force plus 1 nlf and 1 nav guard force to take rabaul.
otherwise i will take what i can but this area will be neglected till the sra/malaysia offensives have concluded

[bobogoboom]

Central Pac
Here i am going to try and take the undefended island. plus mount a good attack on wake but otherwise the only goal for this area is to make johns convoys have to go longer to get to australia and NZ. as such most islands like canton will be little more than nell/betty bases.

[bobogoboom]

I am going to forgo any expeditions into alaska. I see these as just a drain of valuable resources. So anyone have any thoughts or questions on my stratagy? Also china scares me in BigB anyone have ideas on what i should do there my plan was just to clear the south china pocket and kinda hold there.

[n01487477]

Some thought's .. not advice!

If you get a chance take Wuchow early, before his mobile forces from Changsha, Hengchow, and city (E of Wuchow) reinforce ... even maybe, before HK. It's much harder later ... Anything in the SE is up for grabs, but make sure you destroy them, no need to give him more mobile forces. I think Wenchow(E of Amoy, was weak in the beginning too ???)

As you know from the release notes: (but for less informed readers, I include)
"This vastly increased China has been counter balanced by the fact that most of it is static and may not move. Only 20 Chinese Divisions and 30 Chinese Corps start the game mobile. The rest are tied down in static positions that are immobile – Unless attacked and forced to retreat bythe Japanese. Thus, the Japanese player may ignore the Chinese juggernaut –so long as he does not activate them himself by attacking them. The idea isto recreate the quagmire that really existed for Japan in China.Also Chinese territory has been brought in line with CHS as to the 1941 start lines." but less supplies in 1.4.

I'm playing as Japanese, BB1.4 PBEM, my opponent has used his mobile forces well to harass my supply lines, it has kept me busy clearing them. And little time to combine forces to attack bases.

So I guess what you do is up to John's play, if you just fight in one locale, so-by giving him the chance to combine them, 10+ Chinese mobile Div's in one place might be a bit formidable. ...
Isn't a good defence a good flexible offence, as long as you don;t activate those static units, you're all good ...

I've made a play for Yenen up North, but the going is tough so far, with the view to go E-->W, cutting Burma, eventually ... BUT maybe it's just flawed !

My Southern troops, now couldn't even take candy from a child, they failed at Wuchow, as I waited too long to attack, and gave him a chance to get reinforcements... now Nanning and Pakhoi are out of the question.

Anyway look forward to reading what you do ... my AAR is tm.asp?m=1579074&mpage=1&key=

[bobogoboom]

Thanks i will make sure to go on the offensive early.
 
Well i am going to have to screen my landing forces with better units john kicked my but last night. And it appears i lost chitose to a glitch. when i issued my orders it showed her and her convoy one hex east of ambrosia and empty and heading for palau but then the next turn it showed combat with a sctf at ambrosia and that the transports still had supplies on them.....oh well.
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Manado at 39,67
 
Japanese Ships
DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 14, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Inazuma, Shell hits 28, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
Allied Ships
PT PT-31
PT PT-32
PT PT-33
PT PT-34
PT PT-35
PT PT-41
 
Night Time Surface Combat, near Amboina at 40,74
 
Japanese aircraft
no flights
 
Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed
F1M2 Pete : 8 destroyed
 
Japanese Ships
CS Mizuho, Shell hits 17,  on fire,  heavy damage
CS Chitose, Shell hits 24, and is sunk
MSW Ataka Maru
MSW Takasago Maru
PG Edo Maru, Shell hits 4
PG Saiko Maru
PC Gamitsu Maru #1
PC Nichi Maru #1
PC Showa Maru #3, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PC Showa Maru #5
AP Hasuna Maru
AP Kakyu Maru
AP Kanko Maru
AP Meigen Maru
AK Myoko Maru
AP Shinano Maru, Shell hits 7,  on fire
AK Yasukawa Maru
 
Allied Ships
CA Houston
CL Marblehead
CL Boise
DD Barker
DD Bulmer, Shell hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Paul Jones
DD Parrott
DD Stewart

Also the canton island sneak attack was a complete waste.
 
Day Time Surface Combat, near Canton Island at 100,100
 
Japanese Ships
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 15,  on fire,  heavy damage
CL Yubari, Shell hits 21,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 26, and is sunk
DD Kisaragi, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
DD Yayoi, Shell hits 20, and is sunk
DD Mochizuki, Shell hits 34, and is sunk
DD Oite, Shell hits 12,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Hayate, Shell hits 5,  on fire
AP Kinryu Maru
AK Kongo Maru
 
Allied Ships
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 1
CL Raleigh, Shell hits 2
CL St. Louis, Shell hits 5
CL Helena
CL Honolulu
DD Bagley, Shell hits 3,  on fire
DD Blue, Shell hits 2,  on fire
DD Helm, Shell hits 1,  on fire
DD Mugford, Shell hits 6,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Henley, Shell hits 1,  on fire
DD Patterson, Shell hits 1
DD Jarvis
 
The kb should be moving into the area over the next week plus i will be dispatching heavier units as screening forces.

[Yakface]

ORIGINAL: bobogoboom

I am going to forgo any expeditions into alaska. I see these as just a drain of valuable resources. So anyone have any thoughts or questions on my stratagy? Also china scares me in BigB anyone have ideas on what i should do there my plan was just to clear the south china pocket and kinda hold there.

Hi Bobo

Don't know if you are including the Aleutian islands in with Alaska, but if so I'd recommend you reconsider. They are a backdoor into the home islands via Para-watsit Jima and O-thingummy Jima nextdoor to Sakhallin. Backed up by LBA at Attu (which can become a huge airfield) a drive from the Allies in this area can be very hard to stop.

[bobogoboom]

Well i will have to reexamine this then.

[Capt. Harlock]

ORIGINAL: n01487477


As you know from the release notes: (but for less informed readers, I include)
"This vastly increased China has been counter balanced by the fact that most of it is static and may not move. Only 20 Chinese Divisions and 30 Chinese Corps start the game mobile. The rest are tied down in static positions that are immobile – Unless attacked and forced to retreat bythe Japanese. Thus, the Japanese player may ignore the Chinese juggernaut –so long as he does not activate them himself by attacking them. The idea isto recreate the quagmire that really existed for Japan in China.Also Chinese territory has been brought in line with CHS as to the 1941 start lines." but less supplies in 1.4.

IMHO this makes it more important than ever to cut the Burma Road. China can then be ignored, or just the high-value bases taken. If things go well and you have spare troops you can think about invading Australia. But, so far things are not going all that well. You may have to settle for just taking the initial objectives, and then setting up a strong defense.

[bobogoboom]

Forgot to grab screenshots. i have setup nell/betty bases at mandano and jolo and have landed forces at kuchin(i have 4 nlfs at the place right now and am still not able to take it). I have just landed an snlf and a special baseforce at palamaburg i have 2 more nlfs on the way in 1 day. I also put a torp into pow about 3 turns ago.
 
Right now my 2 invasionfoces are leaving one for balik it is currently departing hinan island with an snlf a tank reg and a naval guard. it will be covered by a ca force.
 
my other invasion is leaving palau with an snlf and a special base force covered by a bb force for kendari. my goal here is to cut of the southerly flow of supplys into java(did i got to light here?).
 
I captured rabaul and am now sending the south seas force to capture lae. The kb is currently lurking here incase of an attack by the american carriers that were in the Gilberts area.
 
sorry fogot to take pictures last turn.
also in the attack for rabaul i spanked a australia ca tf. 

[bobogoboom]

Night Time Surface Combat, near Muntok at 21,55
 
Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Shell hits 3
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 1
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 3
CA Kumano, Shell hits 4
DD Maikaze
DD Nowaki
DD Arashi
DD Hagikaze
 
Allied Ships
CL Danae, Shell hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
CL Dragon
CL Durban, Shell hits 2
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 1,  on fire
DD Peary, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Pillsbury, Shell hits 1,  on fire
DD Pope, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Stronghold, Shell hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Tenedos, Shell hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Electra
DD Express, Shell hits 2,  on fire
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Muntok at 21,55
 
Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Shell hits 2
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 2
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 4
CA Kumano, Shell hits 7
DD Maikaze
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 2
DD Arashi, Shell hits 2,  on fire
DD Hagikaze
 
Allied Ships
CL Danae, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
CL Dragon, Shell hits 1
CL Durban, Shell hits 12,  on fire,  heavy damage
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Peary, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
DD Pillsbury, Shell hits 1,  on fire
DD Pope, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Stronghold,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Tenedos, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
DD Electra
DD Express,  on fire
 

[bobogoboom]

My current goal is to establish a ring of nell/betty bases around java and choke it. i also am trying to capture singapore as fast as possible. just captured kuala lampur last turn. i have 3 divisions 2 bde's and one mixed reg plus a tank reg commited here.
 
again will get screens next turn

[rtrapasso]

Hey - i'm lost as to when these battles are happening... dates? [&:]

[bobogoboom]

Sorry robert will do a better update tonight.