Red Sox World Series Champs of 2007

[Tallini54]

Champs Again! Red Sox Sweep World Series as the read in Comcast.net news ... Congratulation to the accomplishment of the players, management, and the support of the fans ... we did it, Shaun! ... Lets go down and celebrate at the Copper Kettles off of rt 9 ...[;)] again let bow our hats to the Rockies as well ... and to the rest of the Major League teams ... Looking forward to another chapter of Baseball Pastime 2008 ... whose next??

[PadresFan104]

It might be just me, but the Red Sox are becoming the new Yankees.  If you are not from Boston, how can you root for a team with a ~$140 million dollar payroll, the second highest in baseball??    I mean, congrats Boston and all, but no big accomplishment...

signed - a bitter Padres fan...

[KG Erwin]

Not to worry, Al. Within a couple of years the players will guarantee the dismantlement of the Sox by making exorbitant contract demands, and we will see yet another mini-dynasty emerge. That's the way the owners want it.

[puresimmer]

ORIGINAL: PadresFan104

It might be just me, but the Red Sox are becoming the new Yankees.  If you are not from Boston, how can you root for a team with a ~$140 million dollar payroll, the second highest in baseball??    I mean, congrats Boston and all, but no big accomplishment...

signed - a bitter Padres fan...

Wow, talk about sour grapes

A LOT of teams spend money. The Sox are built to last.

Shaun

[PadresFan104]

Sure, a lot of teams spend money, but at least there is a nice smooth increase from teams 1-28.  The jump for the Sox and Yankees is nuts.  While most teams are only a million or less away from the payroll below them, the Sox are $30 million higher than the Mets and the Yankees are $40 higher than the Sox.

I love the idea of the Red Sox, their history, their rivalary with the Yankees, etc.  What I don't like is that they had to run up their payroll, like only the Yankees had done before them, to become the better team.  Sort of like they stooped to the Yankees level of business ethics, and simply bought a couple of championships.  When I look at it like that, I think, "big deal."  That's why I was rooting for the Rockies, and why I love it when the lower payroll teams (like the Marlins) win.  Those Championships mean so much more since they weren't expected to win it all when Spring Training started.

I've never seen PureSim create disparities like this, is it even possible for the CPU AI to let this happen?

[galaril]

ORIGINAL: PadresFan104

Sure, a lot of teams spend money, but at least there is a nice smooth increase from teams 1-28.  The jump for the Sox and Yankees is nuts.  While most teams are only a million or less away from the payroll below them, the Sox are $30 million higher than the Mets and the Yankees are $40 higher than the Sox.

I love the idea of the Red Sox, their history, their rivalary with the Yankees, etc.  What I don't like is that they had to run up their payroll, like only the Yankees had done before them, to become the better team.  Sort of like they stooped to the Yankees level of business ethics, and simply bought a couple of championships.  When I look at it like that, I think, "big deal."  That's why I was rooting for the Rockies, and why I love it when the lower payroll teams (like the Marlins) win.  Those Championships mean so much more since they weren't expected to win it all when Spring Training started.

I've never seen PureSim create disparities like this, is it even possible for the CPU AI to let this happen?

Though I am a Red Sox fan and am enjoying the victory it is no where as enjoyable as 2004. And I think alot of that is becuz of what you describe in your post like it or not the Sox are now the YANKEES!

[Frozen Stiffer]

That's why I was rooting for the Rockies, and why I love it when the lower payroll teams (like the Marlins) win.

[:)]

[redsoxfan99]

QUOTE While most teams are only a million or less away from the payroll below them, the Sox are $30 million higher than the Mets and the Yankees are $40 higher than the Sox

Which if money alone bought success then the Yankees would still be winning - and of course it doesnt. And indeed would mean no small payroll team would ever get to the series. In the Uk big payroll soccer clubs do not guarantee success either, its still down to the players, management and coaching strategy etc

John
UK

[PadresFan104]

John - the Yankees have made the playoffs the last 13 years in a row!!!  That isn't success??? Making the playoffs is a HUGE deal for most MLB teams.  Hell, stringing together multiple winning seasons is a huge deal for a lot of teams.  The Yankees have 6 Pennants and 4 World Championships in that 13 year span.  Money does not guarantee World Series Championships, (and nobody will ever argue this) but in the Yankees case, it has guaranteed winning seasons.

[slider15]

But that is the problem, Market sizes vary. the Red Sox are a big market team. Market size is a tool and resource, so can you really fault them for using their resources? I think Baseball players are off the wall and a salary cap should be in place. I don't care how many home runs you hit, no man is worth 400 million, per what Scott Boras commented on A-Rod's expected demands.

[PadresFan104]

Slider - No, I don't fault them at all.  I'm sure that if I ran their business and had their resources, I would do the same thing.  Regarding the Sox, my point was strictly from a fan/purist perspective.  The Yankees and Red Sox are in a league of their own with regards to payroll, and are basically both now part of the "Evil Empire" in my mindset. Ok, maybe that's a bit harsh to Boston, but I will say that I will no longer be rooting for Boston when matched up against a team from a smaller market.