Admirals Edition Naval Thread

This new stand alone release based on the legendary War in the Pacific from 2 by 3 Games adds significant improvements and changes to enhance game play, improve realism, and increase historical accuracy. With dozens of new features, new art, and engine improvements, War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition brings you the most realistic and immersive WWII Pacific Theater wargame ever!

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1-Any information about number of new ship class slots?
2-Seems like the ship side screen will be unchanged, that's correct?
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1-Any information about number of new ship class slots?
2-Seems like the ship side screen will be unchanged, that's correct?

Oops, sorry for missing that one, fremen:

1 - Many, many, many more than today.
2 - I'm not sure what you mean?
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1-Any information about number of new ship class slots?
2-Seems like the ship side screen will be unchanged, that's correct?

Oops, sorry for missing that one, fremen:

1 - Many, many, many more than today.
2 - I'm not sure what you mean?

I mean the art ship, the art ship side, will be the same of the original WITP.

(Fremen is concerned about re-work all the ship side art...)[;)]
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1-Any information about number of new ship class slots?
2-Seems like the ship side screen will be unchanged, that's correct?

Oops, sorry for missing that one, fremen:

1 - Many, many, many more than today.
2 - I'm not sure what you mean?

I mean the art ship, the art ship side, will be the same of the original WITP.

(Fremen is concerned about re-work all the ship side art...)[;)]

Yep, same ship and plane art format as before.
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1. What is naval support & how does that work?

2. How are the port size restrictions implemented? In other words, what constitutes overstacking (# of ships? tonnage?) and what sorts of overstacking penalties are there?

3. A follow-up to the ship repair question: Once I have my 5 ships at Pearl prioritized is only ship #1 worked on? Or is it simply more likely to be worked on? Are their limits to the # of ships that can be repaired?
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1) Will PT's now have to be suported by a deicated unit or tender or do they operate the same as before. Is this true for midgets as well,that is do they require a speciality base force or a tender?
 
2) Are captured ships now in the game?
 
3) Are Russian Naval assests represented? (Tie Navy?)
 
 
 
 
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ORIGINAL: ctangus

1. What is naval support & how does that work?

2. How are the port size restrictions implemented? In other words, what constitutes overstacking (# of ships? tonnage?) and what sorts of overstacking penalties are there?

3. A follow-up to the ship repair question: Once I have my 5 ships at Pearl prioritized is only ship #1 worked on? Or is it simply more likely to be worked on? Are their limits to the # of ships that can be repaired?

1. That's one of the things I'm not clear on myself. I'll go look that up.

2. Pretty simply. Every port has a maximum tonnage capacity, and anything beyond that can only anchor there.

3. All ships are worked on, but in order of priority, up to the shipyard's capacity (separate from port capacity).
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My apologies if this has already been asked:
 
Ship damage modeling. I notice that in WiTP it can take a couple days for a ship to succumb to damage.
 
For example, U.S.S. UberWahoo can hit a transport with three torps, and the ship may not sink from the original damage effects for 2 or more days. (I am not talking about disabled, then scuttled, like RL Hornet or Hiryu.
 
Rarely IRL does a ship last more than several hours, if it is definately going to sink. (At least, that is my impression. I have not made a study of the issue.)
 
Is the ship damage & effects routine going to be modified from current stock?
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I noticed two numbers relating to shipping tonnage in the Hiroshima screenshot. I take it that's max/current tonnage? Is there a hard cap on the number of ships in port, or do you pay some sort of penalty once you exceed the max?
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ORIGINAL: Brady

1) Will PT's now have to be suported by a deicated unit or tender or do they operate the same as before. Is this true for midgets as well,that is do they require a speciality base force or a tender?

2) Are captured ships now in the game?

3) Are Russian Naval assests represented? (Tie Navy?)

1) That's still being worked on.

2) Not planned for the AE release.

3) No.
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Is the ship damage & effects routine going to be modified from current stock?

Definitely. Brand new damage and effects routine; I can't go into real deep detail at this point, but it's being extensively remodeled.
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I noticed two numbers relating to shipping tonnage in the Hiroshima screenshot. I take it that's max/current tonnage? Is there a hard cap on the number of ships in port, or do you pay some sort of penalty once you exceed the max?

Once you get to maximum tonnage, you can't dock further ships at the port, and so not refuel and rearm, etc. No hard cap on number of ships, but a set tonnage limit.
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I noticed two numbers relating to shipping tonnage in the Hiroshima screenshot. I take it that's max/current tonnage? Is there a hard cap on the number of ships in port, or do you pay some sort of penalty once you exceed the max?

Once you get to maximum tonnage, you can't dock further ships at the port, and so not refuel and rearm, etc. No hard cap on number of ships, but a set tonnage limit.

Will the ships that are anchored in the "overflow" area still receive protection from the port's land based AAA?
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I noticed two numbers relating to shipping tonnage in the Hiroshima screenshot. I take it that's max/current tonnage? Is there a hard cap on the number of ships in port, or do you pay some sort of penalty once you exceed the max?

Once you get to maximum tonnage, you can't dock further ships at the port, and so not refuel and rearm, etc. No hard cap on number of ships, but a set tonnage limit.

Will the ships that are anchored in the "overflow" area still receive protection from the port's land based AAA?

I believe so, at least to some extent, but AAA is really more of an Air Team thing.
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The offensive capabilities of aircraft carriers varied from class to class based on various physical/construction attributes of the ships such as hangar space, number/size of elevators, flight deck length, whether or not the ships had arrestor gear and so forth.

In any of its present incarnations, WitP makes practically no distinction between CVs, CVLs, and CVEs other than speed and airgroup size. Is it still possible to create a CV striking force out various pieces of flotsam and jetsam (the mini-KB comes to mind but I can envision 50 USN CVE's getting together and launching anti-shipping strikes in the late war)?
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ORIGINAL: Grotius

I noticed two numbers relating to shipping tonnage in the Hiroshima screenshot. I take it that's max/current tonnage? Is there a hard cap on the number of ships in port, or do you pay some sort of penalty once you exceed the max?

Once you get to maximum tonnage, you can't dock further ships at the port, and so not refuel and rearm, etc. No hard cap on number of ships, but a set tonnage limit.

Cool, this should make it more worthwhile to try and take some of the islands and atols like Manus Island to use as forward bases [8D]
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I asume thier are more weapons types field on some ship's? From research I did for CF development I found many weapons system isue with Japanese ship classes based on the stock game, many ship types did not for example have the Depth charges they should (including CA's) and many AA guns were just plane missing from ships, has this been looked at for the update?

Also some ship types that could carry and deploy mines in the stock WiTP game could not preform this function, is this now posable? a Dual mishion type? Japanese CS class's for emample can they lay mines? or Suport midget's, and or carry float planes?
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I noticed in one of the screenshots that there was a link something like "Show all ships of the US Pacific Fleet". Will ships/TFs be assigned to commands (SWPAC, SOPAC, etc.) now like LCU/Bases/Etc.? Or was this more of a nationality thing (US Fleet, RN, IJN)?

Yep, all ships are assigned to HQ's now.
Is there a penalty for operating outside your hq area?
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There's a lot changes along the lines you're talking about, Brady. I can't really go into specifics for the reasons I gave in the first post in this thread.
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I noticed in one of the screenshots that there was a link something like "Show all ships of the US Pacific Fleet". Will ships/TFs be assigned to commands (SWPAC, SOPAC, etc.) now like LCU/Bases/Etc.? Or was this more of a nationality thing (US Fleet, RN, IJN)?

Yep, all ships are assigned to HQ's now.
Is there a penalty for operating outside your hq area?

We're working on how exactly to model that.
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