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The RAF didn't use the BAT. You're thinking of the Razon/Mezon bombs...
ORIGINAL: TheElf
Sorry Yakface.ORIGINAL: Yakface
ORIGINAL: TheElf
Not anymore. “Air balance” is limited to current player.
Hi Elf
Thanks for the answer, but it's not so much the air balance numbers that concern me, its these:
Because of the way detection levels work and because the Japanese see what is at the base before the Allies do their aircraft transfers, but the Allies see the numbers after the Japanese do their turn, it gives Player 2 an advantage.
For example - say the Japanese are reconning Changsha. The allies can still move in 100 bombers, (the Japanese player won't see them arrive) fly them on a mission immediately. The next turn the Japanese player sees them listed at Changsha, launches a misssion, but will bomb an empty base because the Allied player has transferred them away. If the situation is reversed, the Japanese player can not do the same thing. Instant CAP causes a similar problem - Allied player always knows how many fighters are at a base he is reconning, Japanese player can easily be caught out if the Allies suddenly transfer 100 fighters to a base. He just won't see them until the next turn.
In experienced hands, it is a very substantial advantage gained only because player 2 issues orders after player 1. With more Allied recon aircraft, it's a feature of the game that needs changing.
yes we are addressing this, though it is not an air team Item. I can't remember whihc team had the hammer on this.
Joe?
ORIGINAL: Knavey
Placekeeper for marking where I left off reading.
ORIGINAL: TheElf
Sorry Yakface.ORIGINAL: Yakface
ORIGINAL: TheElf
Not anymore. “Air balance” is limited to current player.
Hi Elf
Thanks for the answer, but it's not so much the air balance numbers that concern me, its these:
Because of the way detection levels work and because the Japanese see what is at the base before the Allies do their aircraft transfers, but the Allies see the numbers after the Japanese do their turn, it gives Player 2 an advantage.
For example - say the Japanese are reconning Changsha. The allies can still move in 100 bombers, (the Japanese player won't see them arrive) fly them on a mission immediately. The next turn the Japanese player sees them listed at Changsha, launches a misssion, but will bomb an empty base because the Allied player has transferred them away. If the situation is reversed, the Japanese player can not do the same thing. Instant CAP causes a similar problem - Allied player always knows how many fighters are at a base he is reconning, Japanese player can easily be caught out if the Allies suddenly transfer 100 fighters to a base. He just won't see them until the next turn.
In experienced hands, it is a very substantial advantage gained only because player 2 issues orders after player 1. With more Allied recon aircraft, it's a feature of the game that needs changing.
yes we are addressing this, though it is not an air team Item. I can't remember whihc team had the hammer on this.
Joe?
ORIGINAL: jwilkerson
Uh, this would be assigned to the "Fog of War Team" [:D][:D][:D] hastily defined to be Michaelm and Joe !!! [:D][:D][:D]
ORIGINAL: Knavey
Placekeeper for marking where I left off reading.
ORIGINAL: Yakface
ORIGINAL: jwilkerson
Uh, this would be assigned to the "Fog of War Team" [:D][:D][:D] hastily defined to be Michaelm and Joe !!! [:D][:D][:D]
Can't spot an FOW thread. If I sit and stare at the screen without blinking for 2 minutes will my DL go up enough to see it?
Actually the pop-up is misleading. The forum designers took some short cuts. What the icon is really bringing you to is the first posting appearing after you logged out last time (or so). Simple to test. Log into the forum, don't read anything and log out again. After next login everything is marked read.ORIGINAL: VSWG
ORIGINAL: TheElf
In my game I will want to.ORIGINAL: Brady
The question might be in game terms why would you want to, or care to, do you get some in game benifift from doing so?
1. I want to preserve select High skill pilots
2. I want to build a buffer between my Training Schools and the fleet
3. More and higher EXP veterans in the Training Command pool will positively affect the EXP levels of newly trained replacements, and can ever so slightly increase production.
4. The Japanese contrary to popular opinion and however belatedly DID increase the intake of pilot training candidates through out the war. We intend to try and match this as accurately as possible. If game conditions (read into this how you will) allow it the IJ player will be able to fully train pilots after the historical decline of the aviation pipeline began
This is a feature, and is forces the Allied player the ATTRITE japanese planes on a large scale. If he does not do this he is making his own bed for 43', 44' and 45'...better get your favorite pillow.
ORIGINAL: TheElf
No there is no difference. We currently do not track individual pilots Carrier Quals.ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: TheElf
included
Did I just read this right? There is now a difference between IJNAF carrier trained pilots and IJNAF non-carrier trained pilots?
It is tracked in the units.
ORIGINAL: TheElf
The player does not know how many of which type is in the pool.ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: TheElf
when in the TrainING pool, pilots are un-named, and un-designated. Generic if you will. Once they area drawn to an operational unit they are designated as TB, DB, FF, MB, REC etc. Once this happens they remain designated as a "Type" of pilot. And when they are moved from pool to pool they are in seperate pools based on their type.
The one exception is where they are in the Training Command pool as "instructors". Here is where they affect the output of "students" in the TrainING pool.
Very interesting. Once a pilot is designated by being assigned to an operational unit and then transferred to a pool, does the player know how many of each type of pilot is in that pool. Example: There are 20 pilots in the reserve pool. Will the player know that 12 are fighter, 3 TB, etc.?
How does a pilot become an instructor?
Pilots become instructors when a player selects him and sends him to the Training Command pool.
ORIGINAL: TheElf
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
Does this mean that Japanese pilots will now rotate home to be instructors? Will the players be able to rotate pilots home to be instructors?
Not Automatically. Players will be given the option. IJN and IJAAF did rotate veterans back to the HIs to train new pilots but not approaching anywhere near the regularity or the numbers the US did.
ORIGINAL: TheElf
In my game I will want to.ORIGINAL: Brady
The question might be in game terms why would you want to, or care to, do you get some in game benifift from doing so?
1. I want to preserve select High skill pilots
2. I want to build a buffer between my Training Schools and the fleet
3. More and higher EXP veterans in the Training Command pool will positively affect the EXP levels of newly trained replacements, and can ever so slightly increase production.
4. The Japanese contrary to popular opinion and however belatedly DID increase the intake of pilot training candidates through out the war. We intend to try and match this as accurately as possible. If game conditions (read into this how you will) allow it the IJ player will be able to fully train pilots after the historical decline of the aviation pipeline began
This is a feature, and is forces the Allied player the ATTRITE japanese planes on a large scale. If he does not do this he is making his own bed for 43', 44' and 45'...better get your favorite pillow.
ORIGINAL: spence
Elf -
The USN was prohibited (by interservice agreement) from possessing land based bombers (except seaplanes) prior to the war. Starting around the end of 1942 the USN started operating squadrons of patrol bombers of various types. Though much of the equipment was in pretty much the same as the USAAF equipment the training was quite different. The USN/USMC multi-engine bombers operated and attacked at low levels and were quite proficient at attacking ships/submarines. Basically though they did not make mass attacks on enemy fleets (though that may be a result of the IJN not presenting such targets). Previously you mentioned that low level naval attack proficiency would be mostly restricted to the USAAF 5th AF. I should hope that the USN 2E/4E bombers would also be given their due.
ORIGINAL: spence
Is the PB4Y-2 Privateer included now? Is the BAT radar guided bomb? If so is it useable against land targets as well (apparently the RAF used it against bridges on the Burma railway somewhat successfully)?
ORIGINAL: Brady
2) Just how patrole planes be aloted search radar, given not all with a squadron were so equiped always.
A good question and one that's being chomping on. When we're through we'll let you know
Thanks ElfORIGINAL: TheElf
I hear what you are saying Fishbed, but given that AE players will be starting from scratch, we priortized any adjustment to the Kamikaze routine to a later patch. AS it will likely not require any OoB work, and thus no restarts, we could code any changes at a later date. Bigger fish...
