ORIGINAL: AW1Steve-Ike , I've heard a lot of reasons why people seem to feel that this photo is staged . Why specifically do you feel that it's genuine combat footage? We have explored supporting data , but it's still lacking. Tell me your gut
feelings and why. I'm willing to be convinced.
This was the question IKE.
Ahh, OK Steve.
Well I hope you can undertand how your question got lost in the shuffle when my own stated opinion got twisted into ¨Ike says this is a an authentic combat picture. ¨[:D]
This is what I have actually said Steve, my comments cut and pasted.
I´ve seen this picture around in several places but have never heard of where it came from or how. I´m thinking it came from some Japanese propaganda film and is staged as there is an American flag laying in the dirt. But then it looks like there is an explosion happening in the background so maybe it is the slide in a film of actual combat or something. So I´m of different opinions. A very interesting picture either way though.
I´m undecided and will keep looking for something about the picture though.
As it seems that picture at one time was on billboards all around Tokio in 43´, has a name ¨We won´t stop shooting!¨
It is possible that this picture is both fake and actual combat. The two Japanese troops and the explosion in it could be from an actual combat picture and when they went to put it on billboards in Tokyo they added a dirt foreground with an American flag laying on it. That is a possibility too.
If this picture is fake it certainly is unusual as far as propaganda pieces.
Now as you can see from what I have actually said Steve I was undecided before and am still undecided. Are the two soldiers actually fighting from somewhere with a foreground added? Is the whole picture staged somewhere including the explosion in background or is that ¨real¨ and the two soldiers staged...etc, etc, etc.
As tocaff said, show a bolt and a piece of railing from a ship and someone will tell you the ships name, when it was launched, commisioned and sunk.
Show a picture of two Japanese soldiers, no one has a clue. So this picture is a bit of an enigma it seems.
I have no problem someone coming up with ¨We won´t stop shooting!¨ Filmed backlot B, Tokyo studios 1942. Ref. Book ¨X¨. But as this picture is certainly a dramatic one, for me at least, I would like to know where it comes from and how. Certainly the answer is out there as I´m sure it has been published
somewhere.
Terminus-I retract my previous statement that he claimed Argentina won the Falklands war; I just went back and checked the thread (thought it had been deleted), and he said no such thing.
Well thank you very much Terminus and I say to everyone I don´t know anything about Terminus or his personal life or bravery so what I said before is completely baseless.
I do say this though Terminus. You play very loose and fast with your quotes. I think we both know my opinions on certain matters are not in the mainstream on this forum. However even PanzerJaeger got my quote on his parody thread correct.
I´m sure you can find plenty of actual, unpopular quotes I´ve made on subjects on the forum so you shouldn´t have to invent any. I don´t shy away from my opinions no matter how unpopular.
I believe there was widespread killing of Japanese soldiers in WW2, both POW´s and those attempting to surrender by Allied soldiers.
I believe the Malvinas belongs to Argentina, not Britain and they were stolen.
I believe the Japanese were forced into a war against the United States by the US oil embargo and they didn´t really want a war with the US.
Now there. You can copy and paste these unpopular quotes from me all over. No need to invent anything as I stand by them and other similiar quotes because that´s what I believe.
Terminus-....and that the Argentine air force currently operates Su-30's, which supposedly should give the RAF Typhoon something to worry about.
Ah..Ah..Ah..Terminus. You better learn to use the copy-&-paste. That thread has been months ago and I do remember mentioning the delivery and operational status of the SU27´s delivered to Chavez in Venezuela. I also seem to recall saying Russia had been here a few weeks ago (at that time) offering the sale of SU-30´s to Argentina. Operational status? Better check that one Terminus.
Yes I do recall saying the SU-30 would give the Typhoon something to worry about as I consider it a top rate world fighter.
@Everyone.I did see some other people complaining about misquotes on the Iwo Jima thread not related to me. If your going to quote someone or say someone said something use copy and paste.
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I´m sure many people now have searched for this pictures record now. I don´t think anyone here is going to be able to find out where it came from anyways.
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