new game anyone

[dodod]

anyone interested in starting a game? I don't care much about the options or house rules...can be set by anyone.

My only requirement is that I don't want to host it.
Oh and maybe minimum of 24 hour turnaround? or AI plays your turn.

[Mardonius]

I'll be keen to play but can not host. Reckon that no leader casualties is a good idea as they drop like flies.

[WJPalmer1]

Count me in. I'm still a relative newbie to EiA so I would likewise be a bad choice for a host. The options and house rules mentioned so far sound fine.

A couple of suggestions: Set up a new Google Groups site for sharing files & general communication. Also, it might be wise to get everything ready to go but not actually kick the new game off until the new patch is released early next week.

[dodod]

exp
 
can u set up the google groups site?
I suppose we can wait til the patch?  do we know what's in it?

[dodod]

I also suggest the following rules:
 
Winter Land Movement +
Guard Commit +
Allow PBEM Host +
Allow Option Changes during the game - (+ if we play before patch)
Third Party battle resolution -
PBEM passwords - never used it... 
Econ Manip -
GB/FR War +
Leader Cas +
Priv -
PBEM Quick -

I also think that GB and france should have unconditional surrender as house rule for initial peace or they will clean house on everyone else.
 
Also in the first 2 years, Prussia can only have up to 2 major countries (of bordering countries--Russia, Austria, France) at war...so there is no gang up on Prussia.
 
Any other ideas?
and is there a place where the additions of the patch are posted?
 
I understand there is no kingdom of Italy (I don't know why)!@

[WJPalmer1]

Hi,
I've created a Google Group for this game. In honor of the Iron Duke's remark following Waterloo, I called it "Near Run Thing".

http://groups.google.com/group/eia_nearrunthing

I'm fine with the rule clarifications set out by Dodod, with the possible exception of using Economic Manipulation. According to what I've read about the game from the grognards, it adds an important element. Also, I like the idea of eliminating leader casualties since there is no way to promote/replace.

I also assume that we would be using the official GAP bid process. Seems the fairest method of selecting countries to me.

From what I've read, the patch will take care of 50+ bugs plus a handful of minor enhancements. Since the game represents such an investment of our time, I think the additional stability will be well worth the wait.

Now, we just need a Host and 4 more players [;)]

[Mardonius]

Concur on the no leader casualties. They seem to happen too frequently in the computer version vice the 1 in 36 chance in the board game.

I don't recommend any special protections for Prussia.
Rest looks fine.

[dodod]

ok, no leader casualties, I like the realistic aspect, but I wish there were free state leaders or something you could use.
 
and no anti-gang-up-on-prussia-rule? hmmm..fine...but you're prussia. lol

[denxis1]

I am looking for a game and would like to join, I have no experience but I am willing try and host if no one else wants to give it a try.

[Kayuucee]

I would be interested in playing. I have no problems with the suggested rules.

Kenneth Crist

[dodod]

OK that's 5 players.  need 2 more or else AI takes over.
 
econ manipulation will be as per democratic vote...I never use it, seems a little cheap to me..but oh well.
 
does anyone know what is in the patch?  Perhaps we can start and add stuff later, since most of it is just game playing fixes that will likely work on games already in play.

[Trent]

Well, i can join this one. Who i should send my bids to ? 

[fatfloyd]

I am keen to try the PBEM post-patch if space is available. There seem too many bugs to play pre-patch with any confidence with PBEM. The options suggested look fine though I would vote no to Leader Cas and no protect Prussia or anybody else rule. Anybody know when the patch is coming?

[WJPalmer1]

Denis,
Thanks for your offer to host. At this point, it looks like we will take you up on that!

At this point, the players lined up to play include:

dodod
Mardonius
densix1 (Host)
Kayuucee
Trent
fatfloyd
exp101 (me -- and Google Groups owner)

At this point it might be good to summarize where we think we are with everything:

Options:
Winter Land Movement +
Guard Commit +
Allow PBEM Host +
Allow Option Changes during the game -
Third Party battle resolution -
PBEM passwords ?
Econ Manip ?
GB/FR War +
Leader Cas -
Priv -
PBEM Quick -

Additional Rules & Understandings:
+Only unconditional surrender between France/GB
+Players expected to post phases promptly (after 24 hours from previous posting Host may use AI)
+Use Google Groups Site: http://groups.google.com/group/eia_nearrunthing for file posting & general communication

Which means that we need to vote on:
Economic Manipulation
PBEM Passwords

Miscellaneous -
Since our membership seems to be set, I'll send out invitations to join the new Google Group. This will give players the capability to post moves, upload/download game files, etc. For this purpose, please send your e-mail address to me at rwberg@att.net making sure that you identify yourself by your Matrix Forum name in your e-mail.

If you have not done so already download the GAP here:
http://www.matrixgames.com/games/downloads.asp?gid=285
And please read this handy post before you start the GAP and put in your bids
tm.asp?m=1641790

At this point, bids should be sent to Denis as our illustrious Host. Denis, can you please let us know where these should be sent?

I would suggest calling our game NearRunThing in honor of Wellington's classic remark after Waterloo.
After using GAP save your file as NearRunThing_yourname and send it to the e-mail address Denis provides. This should allow him to easily keep the bids & bidders straight.

And, as for my votes:
Yes to Economic Manipulation
Yes to PBEM passwords
Yes to waiting to commence the game until the new patch is out (estimated by Jan 5) but get everything ready, including submitting our GAP bids, now

Is this consistent with everyone's understanding?

Ron (exp101)

[Mardonius]

Looks good to me. I, too, think it would be a good idea to go with the Economic Manipulation. I have never seen the privateers used but for some reason think they might be fun . Arggggghhhh!!!!! Any takers?

[Trent]

Economic manipulation is primordial but the privateers are useless.


( Bids sent and request for joining the group is done )

denxis1@gmail.com THIS IS THE DENIS EMAIL FOR BIDS

[dodod]

I will email bid shortly...
 
I think privateers is actually good...I vote for it...only because it can get rid of some of GB, france or spain ships if they decide to do it..this helps other puny fleets.
 
econ manip--fine...it just seems bad for turkey.  but that's fine too..
 
passwords? why? but OK.
 
I really want to start now, since I think most changes will be able to be added during the game...but whatever everyone wants..
 
I don't think there will be a kingdom of italy or any major changes on the first patch?!@ right?

[WJPalmer1]

In the other PBEM game I'm involved in, we were in only the second month of the game (February 1805) when the program mysteriously reset all French land forces to their Setup locations. Had this happened even a few months later, we would have had to completely start over with the resulting loss of everyone's time and effort. Even now, I think everyone is a bit apprehensive not knowing when the bug may strike again. To me, the main attraction of waiting for the patch is that the 50+ bug fixes are insurance against the game blowing up. I don't want to even think about having to restart this bad boy once we get going. Also, as everyone is aware, this game is likely to go at least a couple of years. Waiting an extra couple of days to gain the security of the patch seems a very small inconvenience for the gain.

I'm OK either way on privateers. It's never been a factor either way in the games I've played to date.

[fatfloyd]

My bids have been sent.

Good Luck all

[DCWhitworth]

I *think* reading this thread that you have seven players. If so I'd be happy to be a reserve in case someone drops out. I don't mind picking up a hopeless position or badly trashed nation (I like a challenge !)
 
Regards
David