Uncommon Valor Manual

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Thu May 16, 2002 2:31 pm

The manual is around 5mb.

LargeSlowTarget · Post by **LargeSlowTarget** » Thu May 16, 2002 2:43 pm

Originally posted by Marc Schwanebeck
The manual is around 5mb.

Jeez!! Thanx for the quick response.

osros · Post by **osros** » Thu May 16, 2002 3:05 pm

My copy gets here today so the Manual is no big deal for me. But I feel for those who have to wait thru the weekend.

Has the PDF been getting around yet?

johnmac · Post by **johnmac** » Thu May 16, 2002 3:08 pm

Well, I'd appreciate a copy too - I don't think Duchet computers
have received their copies yet, though I do like the plaintive message on their site - have you guys been persecuting them??

Mail is john@infonomicon.com

Henri · Post by **Henri** » Thu May 16, 2002 4:00 pm

Here is my 2 cents' worth on this question. The last 2 games I bought (SPWaW and Starships Unlimited cost me almost as much as the game to print the manual on my color printer at home. If the manuals had been available on the Matrix web site, I would have downloaded them at work and printed them on my laser printer for 1/10 the price or less. Sure I could have mailed the manual to myself at work, but it may have exceeded the size limit there.

I don't see how having the manual online for download is going to make matrixgames lose sales, since I don't see why people who are not interested in the game would bother to read the manual (I wouldn't unless I'm intending to buy the game). And the same goes for people who might not buy the game but would be asking questions on the site. I would think that almost ANY kind of positive activity on forums about their games would make a company happy, since it generates interest for their games.

Perhaps a shortened manual (for example the first couple of chapters or something) cold be used as publicity.

Of course it's not for me to tell Matrixgames what to do, but...

BTW it would be a lot cheaper and convenient for someone here to put the manual on an ftp site for a short time, instead of mailing it to a lot of people, and would avoid the problem of limited mail size. To avoid overloading the site, the generous person would not give the site address publicly, but email the address to people who query here and who seem worthy of confidence (the site could be closed if abuse happens).

Anyway the demand will die down as soon as most buyers have received their copy.

henri

Carentan · Post by **Carentan** » Thu May 16, 2002 4:06 pm

I have a site that allows unlimited d/l'ing and will post the manual to it this morning. If Matrix doesn't mind, I will post a link in this thread.

MojoPhryman · Post by **MojoPhryman** » Thu May 16, 2002 4:43 pm

I foolishly settled for ground shipping, as a cost saving measure. Man I wish I hadn't done that. I'm not sure that I can manage to wait until it arrives on Monday. So if some kind soul would like to send me the manual, I would sure appreciate it. Thanks!!!

MojoPhryman

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Thu May 16, 2002 5:05 pm

If the manuals had been available on the Matrix web site, I would have downloaded them at work and printed them on my laser printer for 1/10 the price or less.

The manuals are on the CD in not compressed format. No need to make them available for download. That´s costs us extra bandwith, read money.

I think it´s not hard to understand that we make no stand alone parts of the game available for download.

Now the gamer Marc speaking:

Also, I can´t recall any gaming company that has there manuals available for download. you buy the game you get the manual. That´s really simple IMHO, and I´m speaking from the customer not developer point of view here. In my some 15 years of computer gaming now I wouldn´t have even thought about asking if I could have the manual in advance or just to have a look at it. So honestly guys I can´t really follow the constant bitching about this matter here.

Honestly, I think a few of the threads about emailing manuals around or making them available for download on sombodies FTP would have simply been deleted on other companies boards.
Anbody that made it to the last page of the manual should know what I´m talking about here.

Just my two cents.

Supervisor · Post by **Supervisor** » Thu May 16, 2002 5:11 pm

So honestly guys I can´t really follow the constant bitching about this matter here.

"You got a point there, Judge!!"

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Thu May 16, 2002 6:18 pm

Just for your information I post the last chapter of the UV package license agreement:

The enclosed software program and this manual are copyrighted. All rights are reserved. The original purchaser may print or have a print/copy shop make a printout and/or copy of the manual. Matrix Games grants the original purchaser of this software package the right to use one copy of the software program.
You may not rent or lease it, disassemble, decompile, reverse engineer, or modify the software in any way. All editors may be used to create scenarios that may be freely distributed. All scenario authors hold the ultimate rights to their designed scenarios and Matrix Games makes no claims thereof. You may not copy or distribute copies in any media form. Any persons doing so shall be guilty of copyright violation and subject to the appropiate civil or criminal action at the discretion of the copyright holder.

This of course applies also for the manual.

David Heath · Post by **David Heath** » Thu May 16, 2002 6:34 pm

Hi Guys

Please do not post the manual for download. We have ask that this not be done. Also please do not post asking for it either.
If you give it to your friend just do not tell us.

The games are shipping and we thank you for your support.

osros · Post by **osros** » Thu May 16, 2002 6:40 pm

Marc is pulling out the big guns now..

Everyone wants the manual while they wait for the game..Its just shows how we all are deticated and eager to get started.

Its all good Matrix, We love ya!

No need to get lawyers involved...

vils · Post by **vils** » Thu May 16, 2002 6:41 pm

I didn't know that it was a problem. I will not add it to my ftp!

/Vils

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Thu May 16, 2002 6:42 pm

It was just FYI, nothing else.

osros · Post by **osros** » Thu May 16, 2002 6:46 pm

I will also add that the staff at Matrix is the most involved in the forums that I ever seen from other game companies. I mean you guys rock with the quick replys and comments.

Its not taken for granted.. THANK YOU!!!

elmo3 · Post by **elmo3** » Thu May 16, 2002 7:19 pm

Originally posted by Marc Schwanebeck

...snip...

Now the gamer Marc speaking:

Also, I can´t recall any gaming company that has there manuals available for download....snip...

Just my two cents.

HPS has posted the manuals for the Panzer Campaigns series ever since the first game came out. They update them regularly. GMT has a bunch of manuals posted for their boardgames. The Gamers did it for years too before being bougt out by MMP. Not sure if they still do. So it's pretty common really.

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Thu May 16, 2002 7:38 pm

So it's pretty common really.

Two companies in the gaming industry is common ???

Fuchida · Post by **Fuchida** » Thu May 16, 2002 7:39 pm

I would also appreciate a copy of the manual. I just ordered the game but it will take a while to reach England.

Steve

Fuchida · Post by **Fuchida** » Thu May 16, 2002 7:41 pm

Oops! Guess I should read the whole thread first

Oh well, I'll just wait with anticipation instead

Uncommon Valor Manual

yes please

Me Too Please

Ok. Sorry for that!