Significant deviation regarding placement of minor factors?

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Grognot
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Significant deviation regarding placement of minor factors?

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vs. the AH rules

5.2.2.2.3 Adding Factors to Corps in Supply: Any army factor can be added to an unbesieged corps of the same nationally which is not up to full strength (for the type of factor) and which is on or adjacent to a friendly depot that is a supply source or part of a valid supply chain (see 7.2.3). Another major power's depot or supply chain may not be used for this purpose.

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5.2.2.2.3.3: Minor free states may receive their factors in the same way, but must trace a supply line (of their controlling major power) back to a supply source in their minor country.

The part in bold does not appear to be operative in EiANW. For instance, as a GB with the entire Ottoman Empire, once I had a single OE corps sitting in Flanders, I could add arbitrary additional OE corps at that same location, and pump OE factors into them -- without having a single depot in the entire OE (and thus, being unable to trace supply to any supply source in any OE country).

EiANW appears to interpret the 'friendly' corps as requiring a corps of the same minor (*) (so you have to bootstrap by getting one corps with one factor over -- France can't bribe Sweden into becoming a free state, and simply start spawning the three Swedish corps on the Austrian front -- if the British are preventing any Swedish corps from reaching it). Turkey can take an OE corps into Moldavia and build up OE forces and not worry about needing to break a British or Spanish naval blockade or to extend a depot chain from Antioch -- or having any depots in the OE at all, even.

? Deliberate?

(*) 'Same minor' in the case of a kingdom/confederation is based on the entire kingdom/confederation, not specific components. For instance, I was able to spawn an Egyptian corps in Flanders when the other Egyptian corps was still in Anatolia.
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Monadman
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RE: Significant deviation regarding placement of minor factors?

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Yes, it’s another deviation due to programming restrictions.

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RE: Significant deviation regarding placement of minor factors?

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When can factors be added to minor country corps? Is it simply any time the supply line reaches back to friendly territory?
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RE: Significant deviation regarding placement of minor factors?

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That is correct.
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RE: Significant deviation regarding placement of minor factors?

Post by Grognot »

Some further checking suggests three more minor-related deviations from the AH version:

- it was also forbidden to add minor free states' factors to garrisons outside of the borders of the free state, unless optional rule 12.3.8 "Detaching/Absorbing Minor Free State Factors" is in effect

- ships are factors of the nation which owns the port (the major, for home-province or conquered minors; the minor, for free states) and the ships may not be added to fleets other than that of the owner (so a wealthy minor FS can't use its income to fill its major's fleets)-- not seeing an optional rule to cover this one

- downgrading a free state to 'conquered' seems to be prohibited by rule 4.8, except immediately after accepting them as ceded as a result of peace talks via 4.4.6.4


using
http://eia.xnetz.com/rules/eiarules-with-errata.html
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