Old vs, New?

[madgamer2]

I seem to get the idea from several posts that some seem to think that AE is a new version of WitP. From what I read it is an expansion pack and you must have WitP to use it. It is not clear that your saved or PBEM games can be continued in AE but for me I don't mind starting over.
Some seem to think that the map is the same when they look at the screenshots but any vet player can see that the map is different (60 vs. 40 mile per/hex)) and has more detail. Some others think it needs to have 3D graphics and some kind of real combat footage. I would like to see a different combat graphics but not some over done 3D video game kind of thing
It would appear to me that they have taken many of the ideas put forth on this very forum. It looks like AE is going to be a big improvement. I don't understand this idea tat AE is going to be a whole new game. Now if I am not right the someone in the know here can clue me in if what I have said here is not true.
I also find it interesting that whenever an expansion or major upgrade comes out for a good game no natter how much they put in it just ain't enough for some but I guess its just human nature. We al(including me) have our own kinds of improvements we would like to see and are disapointed to a degree when we don't get them.

Lawrence

[bradfordkay]

madgamer... it has been made clear that present WITP games will not be compatible with AE. You will have to start a new game.

Matrix is calling it an expansion mainly because it uses the same engine, it has just been tweaked heavily for AE. I'm calling it a revision rather than an expansion, but that's really just playing semantical games...

I remember when UV was announced, I pictured the combat looking like it does in Bombing of the Reich - thinking that we'd see little groups of planes flying over the seas and attacking little task forces on the map. Oh well... I still think that the perfect version would be on a globe for a map, with infinite zoom, vector routing and realistic weather. But that's many years off (before we'd all be able to afford computers that could portray WITP in such a manner).

[madgamer2]

You have read the official release ,right?  to play th AE you need the old game.  I never expected things like PBEM or save games to work.
Once installed the WitP game becomes the AE game with no switching back and forth.  I have lots of trouble with the learning curve  with WitP and still do so I can only ponder hoe much I will have with the AE expansion, or revision orwhat ever you call it.  I may have reached my ability to play this game (no matter how much I love it) because I just do not have the logical mind to do it.
   I can not speak for others but but making it more and bigger, longer and wh more stuff to ad keep track of might be the death nell for playeres of average abillity.
  In making it bigger and better with more to do you may be ctting yourself from a certain part of your cxustomers who have the sam trouble as I.  I can  not get this game behond the end of 42 no mater what i do because mistqkes early on come back to bite me in the ass sort of like real life.  So there will be 2 versions on my system the old WitP and the new one with AE added.

this whle premise is built on the assmtion that I am not the only one in this oat, am?

Lawrence

[witpqs]

From what I understand of the changes coming in AE they should greatly reduce the workload of the player. There will still be lots of complexity, but with less 'busy work' to distract you, the complexity should be more manageable.

Of course we'll see when it actually comes out, but IMO there is reason to be optimistic about it.

[madgamer2]

To make my point a bit more clear it is the "busy work" as you say that distracts me from just playing the game and n a sense makes the game more compley than it is.  More info and less busy work very well may improve my ability to play this great game.

Lawrence

[bradfordkay]

What I misread was your original question Lawrence. It appeared that you were wondering if you could install AE and upgrade your present game. That you cannot do, but you are right in that it is unclear as to whether upgrading your installation will prevent you from continuing your present game in its present (unupgraded) form. That I believe is possible, because the game loads the info at start and patches do not change teh database of the game until it is restarted. Thus I believe that you'll be able to continue a standard WITP game and start a new AE game on the same install. I do not know if once you install AE whether you'll ever be able to start a new game in the original WITP.

[wworld7]

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

What I misread was your original question Lawrence. It appeared that you were wondering if you could install AE and upgrade your present game. That you cannot do, but you are right in that it is unclear as to whether upgrading your installation will prevent you from continuing your present game in its present (unupgraded) form. That I believe is possible, because the game loads the info at start and patches do not change teh database of the game until it is restarted. Thus I believe that you'll be able to continue a standard WITP game and start a new AE game on the same install. I do not know if once you install AE whether you'll ever be able to start a new game in the original WITP.

I believe they will be seperate, as in WITP-AE goes in one folder and your OLD WITP will go in another. That is what I have gathered from the threads on this subject.

[madgamer2]

ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

What I misread was your original question Lawrence. It appeared that you were wondering if you could install AE and upgrade your present game. That you cannot do, but you are right in that it is unclear as to whether upgrading your installation will prevent you from continuing your present game in its present (unupgraded) form. That I believe is possible, because the game loads the info at start and patches do not change teh database of the game until it is restarted. Thus I believe that you'll be able to continue a standard WITP game and start a new AE game on the same install. I do not know if once you install AE whether you'll ever be able to start a new game in the original WITP.

I believe they will be seperate, as in WITP-AE goes in one folder and your OLD WITP will go in another. That is what I have gathered from the threads on this subject.

OH that's ok if I have to start again. I have done so on many ocations due to HDD melt down,RAID 5 meltdown, and each patch I would start again, so what is one more time. I am retired and my like is this game and working as a volunteer at the local animal shelter.

Lawrence