The Sun in My Eyes Mk IV, EOS from the Allied Perspective
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The Sun in My Eyes Mk IV, EOS from the Allied Perspective
It looks like Mike and I will be having another attempt. I have asked Mike if I can tweak the P-38s in line with the suggestion in the thread for the dead AAR. He may say no, but I figure if I have to put up with poor pilots they might as well go to their deaths in a ride with proper ratings. I do not think Dick Bong would have got to 40 kills in an El Cid version P-38. Apart from that I'll be putting up with everything, even the uber flak and the pants replacements, as it is after all a JFB mod...
Edit: This is a closed AAR. Sorry Mike
Edit: This is a closed AAR. Sorry Mike

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RE: The Sun in My Eyes Mk IV, EOS from the Allied Perspective
Just another update:
Cid has changed the P-38 from a fighter-bomber to a fighter, which will apparently ensure better performance in A2A. The shipbuilding has been extensively reworked to deal with the issue that killed the last game. I have asked Cid where he is on the overpowerful AAA caused by the DP main batteries and Mike and I are currently discussing which mod to use: EOS again or the even more deadly (for AFBs) EEO...
Hopefully we will be able to start the game within a week... [:)]
I must thank Cid for all his hard work getting the above fixes done in such a short time. The task is huge - how he actually does it in a couple of days as well as having a job and a family is something that is beyond my comprehension.
Cid has changed the P-38 from a fighter-bomber to a fighter, which will apparently ensure better performance in A2A. The shipbuilding has been extensively reworked to deal with the issue that killed the last game. I have asked Cid where he is on the overpowerful AAA caused by the DP main batteries and Mike and I are currently discussing which mod to use: EOS again or the even more deadly (for AFBs) EEO...
Hopefully we will be able to start the game within a week... [:)]
I must thank Cid for all his hard work getting the above fixes done in such a short time. The task is huge - how he actually does it in a couple of days as well as having a job and a family is something that is beyond my comprehension.

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RE: The Sun in My Eyes Mk IV, EOS from the Allied Perspective
Ok, I'll have to start watching this one now. [8|] GBL, your game is very hard to keep up with. [:D]
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RE: The Sun in My Eyes Mk IV, EOS from the Allied Perspective
Mike should be starting a turn 0 today or tomorrow. He'll be going for the Central Pacific (and probably my subs at Manila if last time is anything to go by). Surprise will be on, but to simulate the fact that surprise would not have been total with that much metal at Kwajalein I have negotiated the following: Bombers can be set to Naval Attack at 12000ft with 40% Search to simulate the fact that not all personel would be present when warning orders were issued. CAP in rear areas can be set at 20%, with 40% in front line locations. I can move up to 12 air units to simulate the first stage of a dispersal plan triggered by warning orders. I will be telling Mike the final figure but will not have to disclose the units. No LCUs will be given movement orders outside of China and only tfs at sea will be able to move (declared exception - I will start 2 transports in the Panama Canal loading for New Orleans).
The version for Mk IV is EOS 7.7897. The changes are that the Super Heavy shipborne AAA is gone (I think 6 to 8 inch are still DP), Jap ship production has been fixed and P-38s have had a slight manoeuvrability boost.
The version for Mk IV is EOS 7.7897. The changes are that the Super Heavy shipborne AAA is gone (I think 6 to 8 inch are still DP), Jap ship production has been fixed and P-38s have had a slight manoeuvrability boost.

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I hope it's going to work this time... [:)]

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Me too Admiral Yavinsky. [:)]

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Cid has changed the P-38 from a fighter-bomber to a fighter, which will apparently ensure better performance in A2A.
I asked about F vs FB in A2A in the AE forum to see if it's changed. Interestingly, the answers I got seemed to indicate that it hasn't changed and that there are no A2A penalties for FB's. The only difference has to do with bombing missions and A2A when they have bombs, when they jettison them - that sort of thing. But for Escort and CAP type missions - no difference. I suppose we'll have to see how it plays out for you.
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Cid has changed the P-38 from a fighter-bomber to a fighter, which will apparently ensure better performance in A2A.
I asked about F vs FB in A2A in the AE forum to see if it's changed. Interestingly, the answers I got seemed to indicate that it hasn't changed and that there are no A2A penalties for FB's. The only difference has to do with bombing missions and A2A when they have bombs, when they jettison them - that sort of thing. But for Escort and CAP type missions - no difference. I suppose we'll have to see how it plays out for you.
It will be interesting to see if we were right or he was. We are going with a standard EOS rather than the tweaked one I was working on so that we can feed back to Cid. I am quite interested to hear how his EEO AAR is going, but it is now languishing on page 2. His opening moves were as aggressive as (expletive deleted) and I would really like to know how they work out.

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These had AAA values of over 4000 in the last version due to the effect of the 14 inch main battery featuring in the calculation. They do not make me soil my armour now. Art by Dixie.


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The Jap (and some British/Australian) CAs main battery is still DP...


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And what a Japanese RHS CV and air group looks like. Art by Dixie.


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Here are the new P-38 figures. It still looks screwed to me. Compare it with the MiG-3! I remain convinced the P-38 is sold short in this mod, but we will see...
With the massive advantage the Jap has in experienced pilots it is going to get pretty nasty and stay nasty for a long time...

Btw the big gun values you can see for some planes are caused by the fact that these planes carry unguided rockets for ground/ship attack.
With the massive advantage the Jap has in experienced pilots it is going to get pretty nasty and stay nasty for a long time...

Btw the big gun values you can see for some planes are caused by the fact that these planes carry unguided rockets for ground/ship attack.
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Another pretty picture to shamelessly bump my AAR while I wait...
Madagascar. Vichy French forces exist here and in Indochina. I shall have to deal with Madagascar sooner or later especially as the Germans show up at Amsterdam Island at some point. It will be difficult to find the forces and shipping though...

Madagascar. Vichy French forces exist here and in Indochina. I shall have to deal with Madagascar sooner or later especially as the Germans show up at Amsterdam Island at some point. It will be difficult to find the forces and shipping though...

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We are off. Mike has sent his turn 0 and I am doing my moves. I only have time to do the PH area tonight. I should be able to do the rest by tomorrow night. All tfs at sea are running for the West Coast at best speed. The subs are shifting to patrol off landing beaches. USS Argonaut will mine Midway before returning to Pearl to replenish. Mike is pretty used to my starting moves and last time covered Midway at the expense of Johnston. I'll post the CV plans next...
6 of my 12 (China is already at war so moves there will not count) allowed air unit moves have already been done:
58th BG (GP) to Canton Island - A-20Bs;
VP 11 to Canton Island;
VP 22 to Pago Pago;
VP 24 to Lihue;
VP 42 to Molokai;
VP 44 to Dutch Harbor.
Here is a screenie of USS Lexington and her air group

6 of my 12 (China is already at war so moves there will not count) allowed air unit moves have already been done:
58th BG (GP) to Canton Island - A-20Bs;
VP 11 to Canton Island;
VP 22 to Pago Pago;
VP 24 to Lihue;
VP 42 to Molokai;
VP 44 to Dutch Harbor.
Here is a screenie of USS Lexington and her air group

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Lady Lex is heading for Wake Island at full speed, with Dutch Harbor as her return destination. I am going to split my girls because Mike seems to want to kill them...
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And the Big E is going for Canton Island via Johnston again. I am hoping that Mike thinks I would not do it again. She will not be passing too close to Johnston and I have chosen a course that will give me maximum seperation from his CVs if he goes after PH to make maximum use of surprise. I am not even sure surprise is on after all so I had better check before I end turn...
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Good luck for the restart!
Looking forward to getting detailed reports from your game. Unfortunately my own game against Okami cannot begin at the moment due to a hardware breakdown. So I need my daily RHS shots from you...
Looking forward to getting detailed reports from your game. Unfortunately my own game against Okami cannot begin at the moment due to a hardware breakdown. So I need my daily RHS shots from you...
If you gained knowledge through the forum, why not putting it into the AE wiki?
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Ah, finally...[:D][:)] Good luck... to both of you[:)]

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Thanks Guys.
Just got back from work. I have been bothered by my Wake plan all day (and some of the night!). It potentially puts me in a trap as Mike will know where I am and be between me and home, likely with air bases at Midway and Marcus to spot me if I run North. Surprise is on and Mike is definitely going to want to take full advantage by hitting Pearl Harbor as flak is his major worry. I am gambling on getting my girls together. The rendevouz point is off Baker Island and the two tfs will make a high speed run either side of Johnston Island on the way. If the KB is hitting PH, the most that will be at Johnston is the CVL KB. Having two seperate CVs to deal with would give me a chance against his CVLs so I will risk it. He really did not like it when I hit his Midway force in EOS Mk I and it effected his deployment in Mk II and III, so I am keeping well away. The most important thing for me is to keep my flightdecks afloat, because I will need all my CVs together to resupply PH at some point to prevent it's fall.
The new plan for Lady Lex...

Just got back from work. I have been bothered by my Wake plan all day (and some of the night!). It potentially puts me in a trap as Mike will know where I am and be between me and home, likely with air bases at Midway and Marcus to spot me if I run North. Surprise is on and Mike is definitely going to want to take full advantage by hitting Pearl Harbor as flak is his major worry. I am gambling on getting my girls together. The rendevouz point is off Baker Island and the two tfs will make a high speed run either side of Johnston Island on the way. If the KB is hitting PH, the most that will be at Johnston is the CVL KB. Having two seperate CVs to deal with would give me a chance against his CVLs so I will risk it. He really did not like it when I hit his Midway force in EOS Mk I and it effected his deployment in Mk II and III, so I am keeping well away. The most important thing for me is to keep my flightdecks afloat, because I will need all my CVs together to resupply PH at some point to prevent it's fall.
The new plan for Lady Lex...

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It's off to Mike. The only move I made in China was to move two Infantry units to Canton and to bomb Wuhan, with LRCAP flying from Changsha to the same destination
The last 6 permitted air moves were:
No 11 RAAF to Rabaul (Catalina);
GVT-12 to Sinkawang (T-IVa);
No 1 RAAF to Johore Bharu (Hudson IV);
No 60 RAF to Singapore (Buffs);
No 21 RAAF to Singapore (Buffs);
GVT-11 to Tarakan (T-IVa).
The next bit is going to hurt...
The last 6 permitted air moves were:
No 11 RAAF to Rabaul (Catalina);
GVT-12 to Sinkawang (T-IVa);
No 1 RAAF to Johore Bharu (Hudson IV);
No 60 RAF to Singapore (Buffs);
No 21 RAAF to Singapore (Buffs);
GVT-11 to Tarakan (T-IVa).
The next bit is going to hurt...

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