Many Questions

[BigDuke66]

After some good reading some questions rose up:

Will there be command sites in BtR like BoBs Group HQ etc.?
Thought about the command sites of the Jagddivisionen.

Will new sites appear in the game or old sites disappear?
For example Radar stations were for sure build and also be moved to other locations of the course of the war, will this also be in the game?

Will new tactics & procedure have an impact on the game?
Things like for example the "Leichentuch" procedure were flares were used to light up the area so fighters & AA could be more effective.

Will the abilities of Radar sites change over the course of the game?

Will we see a new map?
The game map could be sharper with more details for my taste.

And last but not least please take a look at the airfield that is west of Hamburg on the river Elbe(half way between Hamburg and the estuary of the Elbe). If this is the airfield at Stade then it looks way off were it should be.
Take a look at Google Earth and check 53 34 north & 9 30 east, that’s where it was.
You see that the location on the game map seems at least 20-30km too far north-west-north at least on the screenshots you showed in some other threads.

[Hard Sarge]

ORIGINAL: BigDuke66

After some good reading some questions rose up:

Will there be command sites in BtR like BoBs Group HQ etc.?
Thought about the command sites of the Jagddivisionen.

we have the HQ's, for the LW it will be Luft 2, 3, 4, Sud Ost and Reich, I have thought about adding in the Jadg, but it would take some major coding to make it work, the easy part would be the HQ and reassigning the AFs to each Div, but HQs have more going on then just fields, I will keep that on a back burning for when we have time, the BAF has turned into a much more major effort then we had thought

Will new sites appear in the game or old sites disappear?
For example Radar stations were for sure build and also be moved to other locations of the course of the war, will this also be in the game?

we have sites that can be dispeased (?) to, when other sites are damaged/distoryed, we also have sites that will come in based on date, radar sites are spread all across the map, so when the front falls, there are also sites behind the front


Will new tactics & procedure have an impact on the game?
Things like for example the "Leichentuch" procedure were flares were used to light up the area so fighters & AA could be more effective.

we do have seachlights for that , but the tactic of dropping flares when the bomber steam was found, was dropped pretty early, once the GB started flying Night Fighters with the stream

Will the abilities of Radar sites change over the course of the game?

the ground sites do not really change during the game, the radar with in the code changes, radar in the air does change, for both sides


Will we see a new map?
The game map could be sharper with more details for my taste.

that is a new map ?, also, I have said the map looks better then screen shots will show


And last but not least please take a look at the airfield that is west of Hamburg on the river Elbe(half way between Hamburg and the estuary of the Elbe). If this is the airfield at Stade then it looks way off were it should be.
Take a look at Google Earth and check 53 34 north & 9 30 east, that’s where it was.
You see that the location on the game map seems at least 20-30km too far north-west-north at least on the screenshots you showed in some other threads.

I could be smart and say, Stade is not mine , but...
overall, sometimes, the placement of sites is more tied into trying to get them in the close area based on other things in the area, but looking at Google, I would say it may be about 8 high, but I didn't really find the AF itself

which so saying, if you got maps or views, that can give me a better idea where some of the stuff should go, I am more then willing to look at it and make changes

at times to be honest, I am guessing, I get the region and the name, and then trying to get it to match what I see or read
(I lost alot of my notes and docs, when my other computer died (HD fried) and am still looking to find them again)

(now Google Earth is sweet, but, it is also not a birds eye veiw of 1940-44, alot of wartime fields, sites are not there anymore (side note, the Factory I work in, was around during this time and air photos of the place, we can't even tell where the different shops where at, based on what we have now)

LOL, to be honest, I am more interested in those two Oil sites just north of Stade, I don't show Stade with them, so interested in if they are new, or if they are part of Cruxhaven's, or part of Hamburgs

[BigDuke66]

Look here:
http://www.relikte.com/stade/index.htm
further down is a map of the airfield.

The main runways aren't there anymore but you can see the small taxway south of them.

Here I have some Google Earth bookmarks so you can see where it ones was.
You can download them here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/88602770/Ai ... e.kmz.html

[Hard Sarge]

okay, thanks, that helps

I have moved it 8 down and 2 west (I had a test game running, will try and get a screen shot up tomorrow)

any more south and it will be even or below Hamburg, moved it a little west to get it out of the River

if you notice any other places you think are out of place, let me know

by the way, could you tell me what a couple of names mean ?

Ostheim

and Hausen

I have an idea, but it don't really follow or make sense to me

[BigDuke66]

Cool, thanks.


Are those Citynames or where are they from?

Ostheim
directly tanslated it would be Easthome.
Quick check of wiki tells me that there is a city called "Ostheim vor der Rhön" and then some boroughs that are called Ostheim.

Hausen
Normaly Hausen ends some city names here in Germany like Schaffenhausen, Ratshausen etc..
It comes from Haus which means house.
Quick check of wiki shows me a fish typ, 4 castle, 1 former manor, 3 aristocratic lines and some other people are called Hausen.

[Hard Sarge]

okay thanks, that is close to how I was reading it

all are part of AF names

[histgamer]

Are you working on the ability to transfer squadrons or groups from one airforce to another in the newer version of the game? That would be of great benifit.[:)]

[Hard Sarge]

last time I spoke with Harley on this, he had some ideas that he thought might work, but, right now, it is way down the list of things we have to get done and want to get done

so best I can say right now, is it is on the list and maybe down the road

[BigDuke66]

@Hard Sarge
About the map maybe you should upload it complete so anyone could take a look at it and give you some feedback on positions or missing sites.
I bet we have enough players to get some feedback and also some "local" feedback from players across Europe.
Wouldn't be bad or?

[Hard Sarge]

that is a little HARDer then you think

this is a little wider shot then I normally show, look at the mini map to see what area it covers

by the by, there is Stade

and yes, I have had a lot of help from people who live in the areas

[BigDuke66]

Looks perfect now.

BTW can you tell me the name of the city northeast of Berlin?
The harbour with the factories around close to the weather button

[Hard Sarge]

that should be Stettin

[BigDuke66]

Oh... I was afraid of that.

I guess the river between them should be the Oder.

Strange thing is that the overall course of the river looks almost OK but the placement is SO wrong.

Again take GoogleEarth to check it out.

The Oder starts at a big bay north of Stettin runs in a south-south-east trend to Stettin and then turns into a south-south-west trend and aims for the eastern part of Berlin. Half way between Stettin and Berlin it turns south for a short distance and then south-east. 50 Miles east of Berlin at the town Küstrin it splits.

As you see the run is almost Ok but total out of place.

[Hard Sarge]

roger, the rivers and the coast are not the best, and nothing I can do about it

[BigDuke66]

Is the map in a usual format like BMP or is it a special format?

[Hard Sarge]

they are bitmaps

but the trouble is, each one is just a small part of the overall map, there are hundreds of them that make up the map