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RE: 9th March 1945
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Did you ever seriously consider occupying Formosa?
Did you ever seriously consider occupying Formosa?
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RE: 9th March 1945
Yes. If I needed the VP's and the game still had 3-4 months left to run then yes. I have my BB/CV/CVE at Camranh Bay ready to rock and roll for it as well.
Msutangs could've provided LRCAP to west Formosa.............
P.S. My troops at Singapore and Saigon are 85-90% ready to go for Formosa if they were needed.
Msutangs could've provided LRCAP to west Formosa.............
P.S. My troops at Singapore and Saigon are 85-90% ready to go for Formosa if they were needed.
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RE: 9th March 1945
In my current AI test game, I'm going Kwajalein -> Saipan/Guam/Tinian -> Formosa. The South Pacific is a purely secondary theatre and the Philippines aren't going to be touched, aside from by subs and air. I'll take Iwo Jima as well, for P-51 bases.
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RE: 9th March 1945
Agree T. Especially against numerous LCU's (Japan has many of them) and behind level 9 forts in pointless bases (those which have no strategic/tactical benefit) its silly to waste effort on them.
Iwo Jima is KEY. I've heard many a time before that the Mariana's are key. They are important BUT in stock it's Iwo that is key IMO since without Iwo your B29's will have to fly either at night or unescorted during the day against Japan = they will achieve little at night and get slaughtered against Japanese air during the day.
Iwo Jima is KEY. I've heard many a time before that the Mariana's are key. They are important BUT in stock it's Iwo that is key IMO since without Iwo your B29's will have to fly either at night or unescorted during the day against Japan = they will achieve little at night and get slaughtered against Japanese air during the day.
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RE: 9th March 1945
When I am reading this some voices whisper in my head to play stock again... [;)]

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RE: 9th March 1945
42A campaign Mike. RL time wise goes back about 2 years ago IIRC.
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RE: 9th March 1945
what's stock[&:]ORIGINAL: Yava
When I am reading this some voices whisper in my head to play stock again... [;)]
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RE: 9th March 1945
ORIGINAL: Speedy
42A campaign Mike. RL time wise goes back about 2 years ago IIRC.
Damn, that's a pretty quick game, Speedy.
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RE: 9th March 1945
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what's stock[&:]ORIGINAL: Yava
When I am reading this some voices whisper in my head to play stock again... [;)]
Stock is the original game, not a mod.
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RE: 9th March 1945
Speedy,
Very nice summaries. I think you should mention the existence of summaries in the description provided under the "stickied" AARs.
I suspect you will restart your AE rematch with the penguin from the mid 1942 campaign, however if at all possible, personally I would prefer to see a December 1941 start. Even if limited to only an 8 December start, the penguin's chances of winning (and consequently providing an even greater challenge) are, IMHO, far better than a mid 1942 start. Against a good Axis player, a December 1941 start severely tests an Allied player's patience and defensive capabilities.
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Very nice summaries. I think you should mention the existence of summaries in the description provided under the "stickied" AARs.
I suspect you will restart your AE rematch with the penguin from the mid 1942 campaign, however if at all possible, personally I would prefer to see a December 1941 start. Even if limited to only an 8 December start, the penguin's chances of winning (and consequently providing an even greater challenge) are, IMHO, far better than a mid 1942 start. Against a good Axis player, a December 1941 start severely tests an Allied player's patience and defensive capabilities.
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10th March 1945
Hi all,
Hi Alfred - Aye. I think we probably will end up playing a full campaign in AE[:)]
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Other than the sinking of an AK and AP at Batavia the SRA was quiet apart from the daily Allied raids on enemy airfields and troop positions.
P51D's again tangled with the enemy over Maizuru. I lost 34 planes in the day versus 134 Japanese. I need 2K more VP's to get 2:1 now.
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Todays summary comes from The Phillipines. This has been a 'backwater' for the past 4 months now. My plans for here were to mainly remove the Japanese as an aerial threat from Luzon and Mindanao. I enabled this by using the air control of Jesselton to project a Para assault on both San Jose and Bacolod west of Luzon. An air bridge was established and once fighter cover was provided the bases built up. Now they house mediums and FB's that have raked PI virtually clear of enemy planes (except patrol).
Approximately 25 enemy units are based on Luzon alone. A self made prison camp[;)]

Hi Alfred - Aye. I think we probably will end up playing a full campaign in AE[:)]
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Other than the sinking of an AK and AP at Batavia the SRA was quiet apart from the daily Allied raids on enemy airfields and troop positions.
P51D's again tangled with the enemy over Maizuru. I lost 34 planes in the day versus 134 Japanese. I need 2K more VP's to get 2:1 now.
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Todays summary comes from The Phillipines. This has been a 'backwater' for the past 4 months now. My plans for here were to mainly remove the Japanese as an aerial threat from Luzon and Mindanao. I enabled this by using the air control of Jesselton to project a Para assault on both San Jose and Bacolod west of Luzon. An air bridge was established and once fighter cover was provided the bases built up. Now they house mediums and FB's that have raked PI virtually clear of enemy planes (except patrol).
Approximately 25 enemy units are based on Luzon alone. A self made prison camp[;)]

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RE: 9th March 1945
It's so painful that i have blocked it's memeory out of my brain that's why i ask everyone what's stock.[:'(]ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
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what's stock[&:]ORIGINAL: Yava
When I am reading this some voices whisper in my head to play stock again... [;)]
Stock is the original game, not a mod.
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11th March 1945
Hi all,
Firstly, i've been meaning to mention this a few times before. When you receive the A26B Invader USE it. It is a fantastic medium. The best in game IMO. It has a good range (8 hexes extended), good bombload (8 x 500LB IIRC) and is quick.
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The last Japanese ship at Hong Long was sunk today - MLE Toa Maru #2.
I'm going for the first raid on Formosa tomorrow. P51D's swill sweep Takao from Kiugahan. B29's will hopefully follow up from Rangoon to pound the airfields.
PB4Y's struck out at Rabaul from Lunga for the first time with P51D escort. 32 enemy planes wrere torched on the ground.
Tomorrow Saipan's B29's will go for Tokyo again.
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Todays summary looks at the submarine war and the results of it. I won't go into details about how I conduct the war since it's been mentioned about 3 times before in this AAR. If you have any specific queries on it though please ask away[:)]
First summaries of each nations tallys:
British
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AK - 13
TK - 7
AP - 5
MLE - 2
AO - 3
PC - 1
ML - 3
MSW - 2
DD - 1
= 37 ships.
SS lost = 7
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Dutch
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AK - 4
TK - 2
DD - 1
ML - 1
= 8 ships.
SS lost = 2
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S-Boats
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AK - 8
TK - 2
AP - 6
PC - 2
ML - 1
MSW - 1
= 20 ships lost.
SS lost = 9
A poor return for these old boats
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Fleet Boats
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CVL - Chiyoda
CVE - Taiyo
AK - 182
TK - 77
AO - 11
AP - 92
PG - 12
PC - 30
DD - 4
ML - 14
APD - 2
MSW - 19
AS - 2
= 447 ships
SS lost = 46
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Total ship losses by class:
CVL - 1
CVE - 1
AK - 207
TK - 88
AO - 14
AP - 103
PG - 12
PC - 33
DD - 6
ML - 19
APD - 2
MSW - 22
AS - 2
MLE - 2
= 512 ships.
SS lost = 64.
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As an addendum here are the Jpanese results over the war:
CV - Yorktown
CVL - Independence
CVE - Steamer Bay
AK - 9
TK - 5
AP - 2
AVD - 1
DM - 1
DD - 5
= 26 ships.
SS lost = 75.
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Here are the major ship totals lost for the war:
Japanese Allied
CV - 6 4
CVL - 6 1
CVE - 3 6
BB - 4 3
CA - 6 4
CL - 12 6
CS - 1 0
DD - 105 58
Firstly, i've been meaning to mention this a few times before. When you receive the A26B Invader USE it. It is a fantastic medium. The best in game IMO. It has a good range (8 hexes extended), good bombload (8 x 500LB IIRC) and is quick.
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The last Japanese ship at Hong Long was sunk today - MLE Toa Maru #2.
I'm going for the first raid on Formosa tomorrow. P51D's swill sweep Takao from Kiugahan. B29's will hopefully follow up from Rangoon to pound the airfields.
PB4Y's struck out at Rabaul from Lunga for the first time with P51D escort. 32 enemy planes wrere torched on the ground.
Tomorrow Saipan's B29's will go for Tokyo again.
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Todays summary looks at the submarine war and the results of it. I won't go into details about how I conduct the war since it's been mentioned about 3 times before in this AAR. If you have any specific queries on it though please ask away[:)]
First summaries of each nations tallys:
British
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AK - 13
TK - 7
AP - 5
MLE - 2
AO - 3
PC - 1
ML - 3
MSW - 2
DD - 1
= 37 ships.
SS lost = 7
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Dutch
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AK - 4
TK - 2
DD - 1
ML - 1
= 8 ships.
SS lost = 2
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S-Boats
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AK - 8
TK - 2
AP - 6
PC - 2
ML - 1
MSW - 1
= 20 ships lost.
SS lost = 9
A poor return for these old boats
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Fleet Boats
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CVL - Chiyoda
CVE - Taiyo
AK - 182
TK - 77
AO - 11
AP - 92
PG - 12
PC - 30
DD - 4
ML - 14
APD - 2
MSW - 19
AS - 2
= 447 ships
SS lost = 46
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Total ship losses by class:
CVL - 1
CVE - 1
AK - 207
TK - 88
AO - 14
AP - 103
PG - 12
PC - 33
DD - 6
ML - 19
APD - 2
MSW - 22
AS - 2
MLE - 2
= 512 ships.
SS lost = 64.
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As an addendum here are the Jpanese results over the war:
CV - Yorktown
CVL - Independence
CVE - Steamer Bay
AK - 9
TK - 5
AP - 2
AVD - 1
DM - 1
DD - 5
= 26 ships.
SS lost = 75.
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Here are the major ship totals lost for the war:
Japanese Allied
CV - 6 4
CVL - 6 1
CVE - 3 6
BB - 4 3
CA - 6 4
CL - 12 6
CS - 1 0
DD - 105 58
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RE: 11th March 1945
Nice statistics... lost many destroyers the penguin did... [;)]

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12-13th March 1945
Hi all,
As the war winds down the focus shifts to a few localised but tightly contested areas - namely airsapce over Formosa and Japan.
The past 2 days have seen the Japanese sustain over 240 plane losses against 70 Allied. Virtually all of the Japanese losses have been combat orientated whereas approximately 35 of the Allied were Operational losses.
A B29 raid on Tokyo damaged more HI plants netting 400 more Strategic points. Tomorrow the B29's go for Maizuru again.
I need approximately 1600 more VP's for a victory now.
Below is a screenshot of the most commonly used planes. No real surprise to see the B29, Corsair and P51D up there. As you can see the constant pace of combat leaves these 3 key plane pools virtually empty (Corsair pool has dropped massiely due to the addition of FBG's on Fleet Carriers).

As the war winds down the focus shifts to a few localised but tightly contested areas - namely airsapce over Formosa and Japan.
The past 2 days have seen the Japanese sustain over 240 plane losses against 70 Allied. Virtually all of the Japanese losses have been combat orientated whereas approximately 35 of the Allied were Operational losses.
A B29 raid on Tokyo damaged more HI plants netting 400 more Strategic points. Tomorrow the B29's go for Maizuru again.
I need approximately 1600 more VP's for a victory now.
Below is a screenshot of the most commonly used planes. No real surprise to see the B29, Corsair and P51D up there. As you can see the constant pace of combat leaves these 3 key plane pools virtually empty (Corsair pool has dropped massiely due to the addition of FBG's on Fleet Carriers).

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RE: 12-13th March 1945
I can't quite decide what plane I'm looking the most forward to getting: the A-26, the B-29 or the P-51D... Oh wait, I'm getting all three![:D]
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RE: 12-13th March 1945
ORIGINAL: Speedy
Below is a screenshot of the most commonly used planes. No real surprise to see the B29, Corsair and P51D up there. As you can see the constant pace of combat leaves these 3 key plane pools virtually empty.
You've certainly got a nice reserve of Liberators in their various incarnations. Any bases near Formosa where they could be used?
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14-16th March 1945
Hi all,
Hi Capt. I sure could do - Kiungahan, San Jose etc could all reach but I have little need to now. It's weird playing the war knowing it's all but over. I am really tempted to just go for a large CV incursion for the sake of it.
What do you think?
I want a poll from people. Do you think I should venture towards Shanghai with my CV's?[:'(]
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The last 3 days have seen the usual with further losses over Japan and further destruction of Japanese industry. Kanazawa is a smoking ruin. 500 VP's until victory.
Hi Capt. I sure could do - Kiungahan, San Jose etc could all reach but I have little need to now. It's weird playing the war knowing it's all but over. I am really tempted to just go for a large CV incursion for the sake of it.
What do you think?
I want a poll from people. Do you think I should venture towards Shanghai with my CV's?[:'(]
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The last 3 days have seen the usual with further losses over Japan and further destruction of Japanese industry. Kanazawa is a smoking ruin. 500 VP's until victory.
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RE: 14-16th March 1945
Go for it, Speedy. Might be interesting, but then it'll probably be more of the usual penguin beating. [:(]
Are you guys going to stop when you reach the auto-victory?
Are you guys going to stop when you reach the auto-victory?
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