New Medieval Game from Matrix

[marcusm]

It actually sounds a bit like the upcoming Kings Bounty. Unless I misunderstood.
Are we talking about miniature gaming?

Hell. I am interesting in just about everything so I am not too picky .
I mean everything that isn't yet another Bulge game hehe.

And since we have an Italian here. Don't forget Machiavelli. Great boardgame and great source material to base any kind of game on (meaning the book) .

The Swedish boardgame Svea Rike is also a good source, forget the version Paradox made, had little to do with the boardgame.

[ravinhood]

ORIGINAL: marcusm

It actually sounds a bit like the upcoming Kings Bounty. Unless I misunderstood.
Are we talking about miniature gaming?

Hell. I am interesting in just about everything so I am not too picky .
I mean everything that isn't yet another Bulge game hehe.

Coming soon to a download near you teehee

[marcusm]

Yep. I like Panther Games but that game engine just isn't for me I have found out (or did when it was at Battlefront).

[freeboy]

I am thinking an at version could work..

[marcusm]

Thought about that too but it would require extensive modding.

I hope Rennaissance counts as Medieaval too here. I am watching the Tudors and
wondering why they are so few games covering this period. Only EU I know off and that trading game.

[ravinhood]

You know if those Panther games were turn based with those types of maps and icons an all they would be awesome and I bet sell really well. [:'(]

[marcusm]

Have you guys seen this one?



XIII Century: Death or Glory, a 3D RTS that combines Risk-style global strategy game play with real-time tactical action (thanks: The Patches Scrolls). Developed by Unicorn Games Studio, the game immerses players in the Middle Ages, into a world of noble knights and ruthless nomads, a world of courageous deeds and internal wars. As a leader of one of the European nations in the XIII Century, gamers are tasked to test their steel against the neighboring nations and carve their names into history. Among the playable factions are the French, the English, the Germans, the Russians, the Spaniards and others. Gamers have to defend the crown against such nations as the Mongols, the Prussians, the Scotch


Sounds a bit like MTW 1 to me. But looks about as good as MTW2. Sounds like a potential winner .

More pics here. Looks pretty f.ing awesome to me .

http://www.fz.se/bilder/?id=19772#pagetop


More goodies here. Sounds better and better.

# Over 30 battles in 5 campaigns. Famous battles that changed the face of medieval Europe: the battle of Bouvines (July 27, 1214), the battle of Falkirk (July 22, 1298), the battle of Las Navas de Tolosa (July 16 1212), the battle on the Lake Peipus (April 5, 1242) and many others
# Additionally the game includes several battles, which have never been featured in PC games before, such as the battle of Gelheim (July 2, 1298), battle of Taillebourg (July 22, 1242), etc
# Historical reconstruction. Real conditions of renowned battles such as landscape, time of day and weather conditions are taken into account
# Authentic heraldry of European aristocracy. Over 60 famous historic personalities in the game, including Philip II Augustus, Frederick II of Hohenstaufen, Edward I, Alexander Nevsky, Daniil Galitsky, Simon de Montfort, William Marshal and many others
# Dozens of unit types: heavy knights, cavalry and foot soldiers, archers, arbalesters, lance knights, darters, axe warriors as well as many others
# National specialty of troops: French knights are unequalled in mounted battles, Welsh archers are experts in forest fighting, Mongolian cavalry is lightning-fast and maneuverable, Italian arbalesters are the best shooters in Europe
# Weapons, arms and equipment of knights are made using historical documents and specifications
# Unique battle system taking into account 80 parameters and characteristics, which allow complete authenticity of medieval battle on the unit level
# State-of-the-art shader graphics with astonishing level of refinement and veracity

If it has strategic multiplayer then I am in heaven. Please let it be true.

[marcusm]

Managed to find some city pics. These walls make the mtw2 ones look smallish .





Only worry is that it is too abstract. I am not a huge fan of "nations" in Medieaval times but I guess this is the abstraction level that works for most.

[cdbeck]

Something like Battlelore ported to the computer would be pretty good. BTW many fans over at AGEOD really like the new Montjoie! boardgame port. Fairly abstracted, but quick and fun. Fantasy Wars was fun, but a bit repetitive and apparently has no random map feature!?

We are lacking that really good, fairly detailed medieval game. I want something with the dynastic features of Crusader Kings, the strategic map of Medieval 2:TW, the turned-based combat of Tin Soldiers or Fantasy Generals, with the economic/political strategy of Patrician 3 or Machiavelli. Is that too much to ask? [:'(]

Seriously, where is my WitP for medieval?

13th century looks interesting, but I am afraid (since the publisher is 1C and the game has Russian connections) that the translation will be terrible or the game a bit wonky (think Parkan 2 or Space Rangers 2).

SoM

[105mm Howitzer]

And yet, still no word from Erik or David...[>:]

[marcusm]

ORIGINAL: Son_of_Montfort

Something like Battlelore ported to the computer would be pretty good. BTW many fans over at AGEOD really like the new Montjoie! boardgame port. Fairly abstracted, but quick and fun. Fantasy Wars was fun, but a bit repetitive and apparently has no random map feature!?

We are lacking that really good, fairly detailed medieval game. I want something with the dynastic features of Crusader Kings, the strategic map of Medieval 2:TW, the turned-based combat of Tin Soldiers or Fantasy Generals, with the economic/political strategy of Patrician 3 or Machiavelli. Is that too much to ask? [:'(]

Seriously, where is my WitP for medieval?

13th century looks interesting, but I am afraid (since the publisher is 1C and the game has Russian connections) that the translation will be terrible or the game a bit wonky (think Parkan 2 or Space Rangers 2).

SoM

Though when I think Space Rangers 2 i think of one of the best games ever .
Russians if any know how to make good strategy games. They are getting more and more polished too, check out Fantasy Wars and the soon to be released Kings Bounty.

[m10bob]

Take the original Castles (with the BBC video tour), mix in a Henry Vth timeline, maybe back to King Arthur, possibly a role-play element for that crowd, and you will have a winner.
The thing could have a "fantasy pack" for further development.
The thing could be developed on existing Matrix game engines.

[mikul82]

I'd love a Medieval game, but please no fanstasy elements for me!  Why is it that only the medieval period seems to be such a target for including elves, magic, and etc?  I just hate these aspects in games not only because they take all of the reality out of them, but also because they usually just allow whoever is designing it to make the game world/story/characters too cliched and get away with it: "These are Elves.  They are Good. They are Good because they are Elves."  "These are nasty Orcs.  They are Bad.  They want to kill Elves and are Bad because Orcs are just like that." and so on- just think of any computer AD&D game and you can see why I dislike "fantasy" so much. 

[ravinhood]

Ummm someone boot mic82 out of this thead please it is for medieval/fantasy fans only and they MUST like BOTH haha. [:'(]

[cdbeck]

ORIGINAL: marcusm
Though when I think Space Rangers 2 i think of one of the best games ever .

Oh, I'll agree there. It's just that the translation was SOOOO terrible for that game (seriously, the mission texts were so garbled that it left one wondering what the heck was going on). I am sure there will be a demo of XIIIth Century, and I'll be on that like... well... something on something it should be on.

SoM

[PunkReaper]

mic82

"These are Elves. They are Good. They are Good because they are Elves." "These are nasty Orcs. They are Bad. They want to kill Elves and are Bad because Orcs are just like that

In these politically sensitive and politcally correct times I am not sure whether these were racist comments.

[carnifex]

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

But, I want a turn based wild west game also. Like Avalon Hills "Gunfight" I think it were. That was pretty kewl game.

are you thinking of the AH board game Gunslinger or the SSI computer game Six-Gun Shootout?

[mikul82]

ORIGINAL: Punk Reaper

mic82

"These are Elves. They are Good. They are Good because they are Elves." "These are nasty Orcs. They are Bad. They want to kill Elves and are Bad because Orcs are just like that

In these politically sensitive and politcally correct times I am not sure whether these were racist comments.

Heh, blame it on Tolkien. Compare something like George R.R. Martin's "Song of Ice and Fire" series to the Lord of the Rings and this is what you tend to get:

Song of Ice and Fire: Many different characters competing for a crown, all with flaws and redeeming characteristics, some more brutal than others, loads of intrigue, different motives for different characters behind their actions (no one is "evil" simply because they're some sort of fantasy-eqsue Satan Incarnate character), and a deep, involving storyline.

LOTR: We're the Good Guys! The Bad Guys are causing chaos because they're bad, so we better go out and stop them!

Maybe I just haven't read enough "fantasy" literature, but it mainly just seems like a big cop out mechanism to me [;)]

[mikul82]

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

Ummm someone boot mic82 out of this thead please it is for medieval/fantasy fans only and they MUST like BOTH haha. [:'(]

[:@][:-]

[;)]

[PunkReaper]

Mic82, Couldn't agree with you more. Tolkien was well thought of because it was detailed and one of the first major fantasy works. There is no comparason to Song of fire and ice. What a great series that is, just wish he would concentrate on the series and get it finished. I agree that there is a lot of dross in the fantasy genre even the so called classic fantasy series. Some of the new authors are well worth reading specially if you dont like the elves and orcs rubbish. Try Joe Abercromby and Scott Lynch, great books but no George RR Martin.
Back to the subject the Westeros world would be great for a game however George RR Martin doesnt want a computer game made, but one in a similar medieval/fantasy world would be great.