Dark Side of the Moon
Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami
RE: Air losses
well you have to register, etc.. A little cut and paste of maps maybe ?
Adieu Ô Dieu odieux... signé Adam
RE: Air losses
veji1, there's nothing to worry about - Aussie bits are tough! [:D]
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RE: Air losses
Well with the loss of so many CVs I now have no ability to project power beyond the Islands that I currently hold within the Pacific. And THAT rules out my plans for invading the Home Islands.....which is that ONLY way that I was ever going to catch up.
India is quickly falling into a stalemate with the LCUs not able to force the issue I have control of the air but only over my front lines.
Australia is also at a stalemate. I am not able to move any forces into PNG as there is simply now way to cover the force from Jap air attacks. Nor do I have any air bases from which to cover a land attack against Darwin so my holdings are limited to the East coast and around to South Oz.
At some point within the next month or so I will have to sue for peace as there is no way that the allies can hope to force any type of result. (Honda is just over 70K in points while I am around 23K.)
I am now only playing for Honda's pleasure (he has worked and gamed hard for this moment and he does deserve it !).
For what it is worth we started this game back in August'06, and Honda has proved to be one of the hardest JFB players that I have yet locked horns with.
He also has been a committed player and always delivered on turns (we averaged two moves per day). I pity the next poor bugger that takes him on.
India is quickly falling into a stalemate with the LCUs not able to force the issue I have control of the air but only over my front lines.
Australia is also at a stalemate. I am not able to move any forces into PNG as there is simply now way to cover the force from Jap air attacks. Nor do I have any air bases from which to cover a land attack against Darwin so my holdings are limited to the East coast and around to South Oz.
At some point within the next month or so I will have to sue for peace as there is no way that the allies can hope to force any type of result. (Honda is just over 70K in points while I am around 23K.)
I am now only playing for Honda's pleasure (he has worked and gamed hard for this moment and he does deserve it !).
For what it is worth we started this game back in August'06, and Honda has proved to be one of the hardest JFB players that I have yet locked horns with.
He also has been a committed player and always delivered on turns (we averaged two moves per day). I pity the next poor bugger that takes him on.
Never argue with an idiot, he will only drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
20+ USN flattops sunk!
Here's a bit of a flashback into days 2 and 3 of the Mother of all Battles...This is where the most damage actualy occured.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/08/44
Day 2 saw the introduction of the bulk of the Combined Fleet. During night I spreyed my 5 SCTFs on expected retretat routes and here's the result:
Night Time Surface Combat at 77,81
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
SOC-3 Seagull: 6 destroyed
Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
BB Yamato
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro
CL Tatsuta
DD Tanikaze
DD Fubuki
DD Shinonome
DD Usugumo
DD Shirakumo
DD Isonami
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Uranami
DD Akebono
Allied Ships
CL San Francisco, Shell hits 18, on fire, heavy damage
CA Astoria, Shell hits 23, and is sunk
CL Hobart, Shell hits 21, and is sunk
CA Concord, Shell hits 29, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DE Stadtfeld, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage
DE Harold C. Thomas, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DE Tisdale
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,82
Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Musashi
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
CL Tenryu
DD Hagikaze
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Arashio
DD Natsugumo
DD Yamagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo
Allied Ships
AO Mascoma, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,83
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
SOC-3 Seagull: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CA Takao, Shell hits 1
CA Atago, Shell hits 2
CA Maya, Shell hits 2
CA Chokai
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi, Shell hits 1
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 1
DD Yugumo, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tamanami
DD Suzunami
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 1
DD Oyashio
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 1, on fire
Allied Ships
CVE Santee
CVE Manila Bay
CVE Natoma Bay
CVE Gambier Bay
CVE Nehenta Bay
CVE Ommaney Bay, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Montpelier, Shell hits 3
CL Mobile, Shell hits 25, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CA Salt Lake City
DD Ammen
DD Anthony, Shell hits 1
DD Aulick, Shell hits 1
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,83
Japanese Ships
CA Takao, Shell hits 1
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Chokai
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Ashigara
DD Yugumo, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tamanami
DD Suzunami
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 1
DD Oyashio
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 1, on fire
Allied Ships
CVE Petrof Bay
CVE Savo Island
CVE Rudyerd Bay, Shell hits 1, on fire
CVE St. Lo
CVE Kadashan Bay
CVE Saginaw Bay
CVE Long Island
CA Vincennes
CA Wichita
CA Boston
CL Boise
DE Bangust
DE Baron, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DE Levy
DE McConnell
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,84
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 11 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CL Nagara, Shell hits 1
CL Isuzu
CL Natori
CL Yura
CL Kitakami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze
DD Fujinami, Shell hits 1
DD Kishinami
DD Hamanami
DD Hayashio, Shell hits 1
DD Maikaze
Allied Ships
CVE Prince William
CVE Barnes, Shell hits 2
CVE Anzio, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Liscome Bay, Shell hits 19, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DE Bebas, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
DE Brackett, Shell hits 1
DE Cabana, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
DE Canfield, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DE Carlson, Shell hits 1, on fire
AO Brazos
AO Kanawha
AO Neches, Shell hits 1
AO Tappahanock
AO Suamico
AO Millicoma
AO Saranac
AO Saugatuck
AE Pyro
AE Henry L. Hoyt
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,84
Japanese Ships
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CL Nagara
CL Isuzu
CL Natori
CL Yura
CL Kitakami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze
DD Fujinami
DD Kishinami
DD Hamanami
DD Hayashio
DD Maikaze
Allied Ships
DE Samuel S. Miles, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DE Osterhaus, Shell hits 50, and is sunk
DE Parks, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DE Riddle, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AO Cache
AO Schuylkill, Shell hits 7, on fire
AO Cossatot
AO Chepachet
AE Jacob Riis, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AE John P. Gaines, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,84
Japanese Ships
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CL Nagara, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Isuzu
CL Natori
CL Yura, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Kitakami
CL Oi, Shell hits 1
DD Shimakaze
DD Fujinami
DD Kishinami
DD Hamanami
DD Hayashio, Shell hits 1
DD Maikaze, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
CV Hornet
CV Intrepid, Shell hits 1, on fire
CVL Princeton
CVL Belleau Wood, Shell hits 1
CVL Cowpens
CL Chicago
CL Cleveland
CL Columbia
CA Pensacola
CA Raleigh, Shell hits 2
DD Boyd
DD Bradford
DD Brownson, Shell hits 1
This last USN CVTF was then caght by KB:
Day Air attack on TF at 80,84
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 33
D3A Val x 7
D4Y Judy x 123
B5N Kate x 35
B6N Jill x 67
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed
D3A Val: 3 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 14 destroyed, 22 damaged
B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 18 damaged
B6N Jill: 7 destroyed, 21 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Belleau Wood, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CV Hornet, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Princeton, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Cowpens, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Cleveland, Torpedo hits 1
And then by LBA:
Day Air attack on TF at 80,84
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 16
D3A Val x 14
D4Y Judy x 38
B5N Kate x 24
B6N Jill x 3
G3M Nell x 9
G4M2 Betty x 49
P1Y Frances x 20
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 51
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 5
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
P1Y Frances: 3 damaged
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Raleigh
CVL Belleau Wood, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Cowpens, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Princeton, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Cleveland, Bomb hits 1
Secodary strike:
Day Air attack on TF at 80,84
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 7
D4Y Judy x 36
B5N Kate x 5
B6N Jill x 8
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Intrepid, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Belleau Wood, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
And this one fails to find any more targets:
Day Air attack on TF at 80,84
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3
D4Y Judy x 14
B6N Jill x 11
No Japanese losses
LBA Jills:
Day Air attack on TF at 77,83
Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
CV Bunker Hill, on fire, heavy damage
CV Wasp, on fire, heavy damage
Afternoon phase saw KB clouded in so LBA from Kusiae did all the work:
Day Air attack on TF at 79,85
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 7
G4M2 Betty x 38
P1Y Frances x 14
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 46
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 5
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 5 destroyed, 28 damaged
P1Y Frances: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 7 destroyed
Allied Ships
CVE Savo Island
CVE St. Lo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CVE Kadashan Bay, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Petrof Bay
CVE Saginaw Bay, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CVE Long Island
CVE Rudyerd Bay
Jills are more successful this time:
Day Air attack on TF at 77,83
Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
CVL Independence, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/09/44
By now my subs are in position also:
Sub attack at 81,85
Japanese Ships
SS I-28
Allied Ships
AO Cossatot, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
Last two sufrace actions find the crippled Franklin and an AO:
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,81
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 4 destroyed
SB2C Helldiver: 12 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Chokai
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Ashigara
DD Tamanami
DD Suzunami
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Natsushio
Allied Ships
CV Franklin, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
DE Whitman, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
Night Time Surface Combat, near Namorik at 79,83
Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
CL Abukuma
CL Kuma
CL Tama
CL Kiso
CL Yubari
DD Kiyonami
DD Yukikaze
DD Isokaze
DD Shiranuhi
DD Arashi
Allied Ships
AO Schuylkill, Shell hits 30, and is sunk
The only air strike of the day was once again from Kusiae and it delivered a coup de grace to the CVs:
Day Air attack on TF at 79,84
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 5
B6N Jill x 8
G3M Nell x 3
G4M2 Betty x 31
P1Y Frances x 9
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 45
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 3
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
CVL Independence, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CV Wasp, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CV Illustrious, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
There, this is where it more or less ended. The final losses are, from my perspective, 7 CVs, 9 CVLs (the whole Independence class), 5 CVEs. Of relevance, 4 modern USN cruisers are also sunk. IJN losses are 0! I have one DD damaged heavily, one slightly and one damaged CL. CVL Ryujo took two bomb hits, but is in very good condition (25sys). My CVs are returning to home port, as for the rest, Raver has given a quite accurate description. Those threedays have been just amazing, giving me a victory I hardly thaught possible. As for Raver's words about his reasons for continuing this game, I'll have to have a long private talk with him.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/08/44
Day 2 saw the introduction of the bulk of the Combined Fleet. During night I spreyed my 5 SCTFs on expected retretat routes and here's the result:
Night Time Surface Combat at 77,81
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
SOC-3 Seagull: 6 destroyed
Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
BB Yamato
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro
CL Tatsuta
DD Tanikaze
DD Fubuki
DD Shinonome
DD Usugumo
DD Shirakumo
DD Isonami
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Uranami
DD Akebono
Allied Ships
CL San Francisco, Shell hits 18, on fire, heavy damage
CA Astoria, Shell hits 23, and is sunk
CL Hobart, Shell hits 21, and is sunk
CA Concord, Shell hits 29, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DE Stadtfeld, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage
DE Harold C. Thomas, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DE Tisdale
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,82
Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Musashi
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
CL Tenryu
DD Hagikaze
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Arashio
DD Natsugumo
DD Yamagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo
Allied Ships
AO Mascoma, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,83
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
SOC-3 Seagull: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CA Takao, Shell hits 1
CA Atago, Shell hits 2
CA Maya, Shell hits 2
CA Chokai
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi, Shell hits 1
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 1
DD Yugumo, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tamanami
DD Suzunami
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 1
DD Oyashio
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 1, on fire
Allied Ships
CVE Santee
CVE Manila Bay
CVE Natoma Bay
CVE Gambier Bay
CVE Nehenta Bay
CVE Ommaney Bay, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Montpelier, Shell hits 3
CL Mobile, Shell hits 25, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CA Salt Lake City
DD Ammen
DD Anthony, Shell hits 1
DD Aulick, Shell hits 1
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,83
Japanese Ships
CA Takao, Shell hits 1
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Chokai
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Ashigara
DD Yugumo, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tamanami
DD Suzunami
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 1
DD Oyashio
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 1, on fire
Allied Ships
CVE Petrof Bay
CVE Savo Island
CVE Rudyerd Bay, Shell hits 1, on fire
CVE St. Lo
CVE Kadashan Bay
CVE Saginaw Bay
CVE Long Island
CA Vincennes
CA Wichita
CA Boston
CL Boise
DE Bangust
DE Baron, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DE Levy
DE McConnell
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,84
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 11 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CL Nagara, Shell hits 1
CL Isuzu
CL Natori
CL Yura
CL Kitakami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze
DD Fujinami, Shell hits 1
DD Kishinami
DD Hamanami
DD Hayashio, Shell hits 1
DD Maikaze
Allied Ships
CVE Prince William
CVE Barnes, Shell hits 2
CVE Anzio, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Liscome Bay, Shell hits 19, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DE Bebas, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
DE Brackett, Shell hits 1
DE Cabana, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
DE Canfield, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DE Carlson, Shell hits 1, on fire
AO Brazos
AO Kanawha
AO Neches, Shell hits 1
AO Tappahanock
AO Suamico
AO Millicoma
AO Saranac
AO Saugatuck
AE Pyro
AE Henry L. Hoyt
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,84
Japanese Ships
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CL Nagara
CL Isuzu
CL Natori
CL Yura
CL Kitakami
CL Oi
DD Shimakaze
DD Fujinami
DD Kishinami
DD Hamanami
DD Hayashio
DD Maikaze
Allied Ships
DE Samuel S. Miles, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DE Osterhaus, Shell hits 50, and is sunk
DE Parks, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DE Riddle, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AO Cache
AO Schuylkill, Shell hits 7, on fire
AO Cossatot
AO Chepachet
AE Jacob Riis, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AE John P. Gaines, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,84
Japanese Ships
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CL Nagara, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Isuzu
CL Natori
CL Yura, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Kitakami
CL Oi, Shell hits 1
DD Shimakaze
DD Fujinami
DD Kishinami
DD Hamanami
DD Hayashio, Shell hits 1
DD Maikaze, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
CV Hornet
CV Intrepid, Shell hits 1, on fire
CVL Princeton
CVL Belleau Wood, Shell hits 1
CVL Cowpens
CL Chicago
CL Cleveland
CL Columbia
CA Pensacola
CA Raleigh, Shell hits 2
DD Boyd
DD Bradford
DD Brownson, Shell hits 1
This last USN CVTF was then caght by KB:
Day Air attack on TF at 80,84
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 33
D3A Val x 7
D4Y Judy x 123
B5N Kate x 35
B6N Jill x 67
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed
D3A Val: 3 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 14 destroyed, 22 damaged
B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 18 damaged
B6N Jill: 7 destroyed, 21 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Belleau Wood, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CV Hornet, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Princeton, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Cowpens, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Cleveland, Torpedo hits 1
And then by LBA:
Day Air attack on TF at 80,84
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 16
D3A Val x 14
D4Y Judy x 38
B5N Kate x 24
B6N Jill x 3
G3M Nell x 9
G4M2 Betty x 49
P1Y Frances x 20
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 51
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 5
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
P1Y Frances: 3 damaged
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Raleigh
CVL Belleau Wood, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Cowpens, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Princeton, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Cleveland, Bomb hits 1
Secodary strike:
Day Air attack on TF at 80,84
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 7
D4Y Judy x 36
B5N Kate x 5
B6N Jill x 8
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Intrepid, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Belleau Wood, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
And this one fails to find any more targets:
Day Air attack on TF at 80,84
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3
D4Y Judy x 14
B6N Jill x 11
No Japanese losses
LBA Jills:
Day Air attack on TF at 77,83
Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
CV Bunker Hill, on fire, heavy damage
CV Wasp, on fire, heavy damage
Afternoon phase saw KB clouded in so LBA from Kusiae did all the work:
Day Air attack on TF at 79,85
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 7
G4M2 Betty x 38
P1Y Frances x 14
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 46
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 5
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 5 destroyed, 28 damaged
P1Y Frances: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 7 destroyed
Allied Ships
CVE Savo Island
CVE St. Lo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CVE Kadashan Bay, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Petrof Bay
CVE Saginaw Bay, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CVE Long Island
CVE Rudyerd Bay
Jills are more successful this time:
Day Air attack on TF at 77,83
Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
CVL Independence, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/09/44
By now my subs are in position also:
Sub attack at 81,85
Japanese Ships
SS I-28
Allied Ships
AO Cossatot, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
Last two sufrace actions find the crippled Franklin and an AO:
Night Time Surface Combat at 78,81
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 4 destroyed
SB2C Helldiver: 12 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Chokai
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Ashigara
DD Tamanami
DD Suzunami
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Natsushio
Allied Ships
CV Franklin, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
DE Whitman, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
Night Time Surface Combat, near Namorik at 79,83
Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
CL Abukuma
CL Kuma
CL Tama
CL Kiso
CL Yubari
DD Kiyonami
DD Yukikaze
DD Isokaze
DD Shiranuhi
DD Arashi
Allied Ships
AO Schuylkill, Shell hits 30, and is sunk
The only air strike of the day was once again from Kusiae and it delivered a coup de grace to the CVs:
Day Air attack on TF at 79,84
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 5
B6N Jill x 8
G3M Nell x 3
G4M2 Betty x 31
P1Y Frances x 9
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 45
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 3
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
CVL Independence, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CV Wasp, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CV Illustrious, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
There, this is where it more or less ended. The final losses are, from my perspective, 7 CVs, 9 CVLs (the whole Independence class), 5 CVEs. Of relevance, 4 modern USN cruisers are also sunk. IJN losses are 0! I have one DD damaged heavily, one slightly and one damaged CL. CVL Ryujo took two bomb hits, but is in very good condition (25sys). My CVs are returning to home port, as for the rest, Raver has given a quite accurate description. Those threedays have been just amazing, giving me a victory I hardly thaught possible. As for Raver's words about his reasons for continuing this game, I'll have to have a long private talk with him.
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Gen.Hoepner
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RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
Honda...i have no words...this is amazing!! Never tought this KB vs. DS was possible....you've played a simply perfect match! Hat's off![&o][&o]
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castor troy
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RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
never seen such an amazing result! Congrats Honda! [&o]
RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
wow!
Raverdave
how could you ?
p.s. was there any patch after 1.8 ????
i don;t believe hellcats losses above japanese ones in air battle
Raverdave
how could you ?
p.s. was there any patch after 1.8 ????
i don;t believe hellcats losses above japanese ones in air battle
RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
the whole Independence class
Holy cow! We all struggle to sink ships; Honda sinks classes of ships.
[&o]
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RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
Horrifying... The most interesting thing would be to have an account on how things led to that battle..
I believe it is simple yet difficult to pull off : Honda hiding the KB for 2 years, Raver going forward slowly, getting a bit bored, using his CVs for the pleasure of playing with them hitting here and there and being caught with the pants down...
Perfectly human... Poor Raver... You have lost 50 000 sailors in 2 days..
I believe it is simple yet difficult to pull off : Honda hiding the KB for 2 years, Raver going forward slowly, getting a bit bored, using his CVs for the pleasure of playing with them hitting here and there and being caught with the pants down...
Perfectly human... Poor Raver... You have lost 50 000 sailors in 2 days..
Adieu Ô Dieu odieux... signé Adam
RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
Hats off to Honda.........and here is a copy of what I sent to him in an email just a few moments ago.
[font="arial"]Indeed, you have done everything in your power to ensure a Japanese Victory. Taking away my ability to defend the invasion force leaves me with little choice but to sue for peace.[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]The invasion was planned for next month after the “successful” tour of the current area by my CV fleets….and we both know how THAT went. The aggressive move into Sydney was what caught me off balance and it gave you nearly a year and a half to consolidate. With out a large carrier force I was never going to take Australia back, but seeing that you had weakened your forces in the south of OZ I was tempted (and I think that you allowed it) to move back in. [/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]I must admit that not taking New Zealand always puzzled me…had you done that I would have been forced to try and hit the home Islands earlier (say mid’43) rather than waste time on Australia.[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]Go and have a look around Alaska and you will find all of the LCU already prepped for the attack on the HI…..would have been a blood bath in ships but I feel that I would have got a toe hold some where (there were more than one landing spots pick out)[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]The player two password is 5602382……have fun looking around.[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]You have been one THE best players and I feel that after nearly two years of playing there is now going to be a big hole in my morning and evening routines. Thank you so much for an enjoyable time and congratulations on a well deserved win.[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]Cheers[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]Dave Goldfinch.[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]P.S. I would like your password so I can have a peek at your situation. [/font]
[font="arial"]Indeed, you have done everything in your power to ensure a Japanese Victory. Taking away my ability to defend the invasion force leaves me with little choice but to sue for peace.[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]The invasion was planned for next month after the “successful” tour of the current area by my CV fleets….and we both know how THAT went. The aggressive move into Sydney was what caught me off balance and it gave you nearly a year and a half to consolidate. With out a large carrier force I was never going to take Australia back, but seeing that you had weakened your forces in the south of OZ I was tempted (and I think that you allowed it) to move back in. [/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]I must admit that not taking New Zealand always puzzled me…had you done that I would have been forced to try and hit the home Islands earlier (say mid’43) rather than waste time on Australia.[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]Go and have a look around Alaska and you will find all of the LCU already prepped for the attack on the HI…..would have been a blood bath in ships but I feel that I would have got a toe hold some where (there were more than one landing spots pick out)[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]The player two password is 5602382……have fun looking around.[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]You have been one THE best players and I feel that after nearly two years of playing there is now going to be a big hole in my morning and evening routines. Thank you so much for an enjoyable time and congratulations on a well deserved win.[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]Cheers[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]Dave Goldfinch.[/font] [font="arial"] [/font] [font="arial"]P.S. I would like your password so I can have a peek at your situation. [/font]
Never argue with an idiot, he will only drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
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Gen.Hoepner
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RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
Those of you who know me for the Uncommon Valour days will remember the games that Luskan and I fought out....one game he would win, and another game i would win.....I think we played a total of 7 UV games with me 4 up to his 3. bacause it takes so long to play WiTP my games have been much slower....IIRC my score is two wins, one game stopped because of bug issues and now this huge loss.
I have learned a lot from playing Honda and must say that I almost feel sorry for the next JFB that I play because he is going to cop ALL the lessons learnt.
I have not kept up this AAR nearly as much as i would have liked (you all know from my other AARs that I tend to be a bit more active) but every day life has made the effort of daily up dates impossible.
But now for the GOOD news..........I am looking for a JFB to the up-coming WiTP AE......any takers? [:)]
P.S. Thanks for taking the time to stop by and read.
I have learned a lot from playing Honda and must say that I almost feel sorry for the next JFB that I play because he is going to cop ALL the lessons learnt.
I have not kept up this AAR nearly as much as i would have liked (you all know from my other AARs that I tend to be a bit more active) but every day life has made the effort of daily up dates impossible.
But now for the GOOD news..........I am looking for a JFB to the up-coming WiTP AE......any takers? [:)]
P.S. Thanks for taking the time to stop by and read.
Never argue with an idiot, he will only drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
it was damn interesting AAR and great game
hats off Honda - amazing job
hats off Raverdave - you will never face standard fight so you always need to think out solutions in-flight
p.s. i rested alot when i had year + pause
with AE adressing some of irritating features i will be back
sign me on your waiting list please
p.p.s. i think Raverdave will be now one of the most experianced allied players here
hats off Honda - amazing job
hats off Raverdave - you will never face standard fight so you always need to think out solutions in-flight
p.s. i rested alot when i had year + pause
with AE adressing some of irritating features i will be back
sign me on your waiting list please
p.p.s. i think Raverdave will be now one of the most experianced allied players here
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USSAmerica
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RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
Raver and Honda, thank you both for quite an enjoyable read as we followed your game. Congratulations to both of you for completing your game, and having so much fun for so long! That's the whole purpose of playing this great game, right? [8D]
Mike
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"Good times will set you free" - Jimmy Buffett
"They need more rum punch" - Me
Artwork by The Amazing Dixie
RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
Wow that was one very intense battle. Thanks for the entertainment as well.
Regards,
Grell
Regards,
Grell
RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
Raver, thanks for the game, your stamina and humor[:)]. I will congrat Honda on beer conference.
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bradfordkay
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RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
Well played there, guys! My hat's off to Honda for a masterful war of conquest.
I think that carrier strike on Truk was the decisive factor - Raver had lost a lot of experienced Hellcat pilots there. I wonder how the carrier battle might have played out had he not lost those valuable pilots in the earlier raids. But then again... all those Japanese carriers... wow! Makes me glad that this wasn't how the real war played out!
I think that carrier strike on Truk was the decisive factor - Raver had lost a lot of experienced Hellcat pilots there. I wonder how the carrier battle might have played out had he not lost those valuable pilots in the earlier raids. But then again... all those Japanese carriers... wow! Makes me glad that this wasn't how the real war played out!
fair winds,
Brad
Brad
RE: 20+ USN flattops sunk!
Thanks guys for a very entertaining and thought provoking AAR [&o]
If I've learnt anything then it is to be more careful with the USN in my game - no more risky adventures. Those JFBs can be very cunning.
If I've learnt anything then it is to be more careful with the USN in my game - no more risky adventures. Those JFBs can be very cunning.
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