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This new stand alone release based on the legendary War in the Pacific from 2 by 3 Games adds significant improvements and changes to enhance game play, improve realism, and increase historical accuracy. With dozens of new features, new art, and engine improvements, War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition brings you the most realistic and immersive WWII Pacific Theater wargame ever!

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PS, when is "Summer 08" Ours has just finished!!

Don't worry, we have another one at the end of the year...

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(PS: It hasn't quite finished - we still have our leap day. Edit - speaking of leap years, is there a Feb 29th in 1944 in WitP? If not that is a bug [:)])


So what was the 19c about yesterday??

If 44 isnt a leap year then 42 was
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PS, when is "Summer 08" Ours has just finished!!

Don't worry, we have another one at the end of the year...

Andrew

(PS: It hasn't quite finished - we still have our leap day. Edit - speaking of leap years, is there a Feb 29th in 1944 in WitP? If not that is a bug [:)])


So what was the 19c about yesterday??

If 44 isnt a leap year then 42 was

1944 was a leap year.
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IIRC the rule about leap year is


(1) If divisible by 4 it is a ly.

(2) Except if it is divisible by 100 then it is not.

(3) Except if it is divisible by 400 then it is.

So for example y2000 was a leap year. It is divisible by 4 (it is a LY) ... it is divisible by 100 (it is NOT a LY) ... it is divisible by 400 (is IS a LY).

1944 is divisible by 4 hence it is a LY.

1942 is not divisible by 4 hence it is not a LY.
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I guess that you mean "evenly divisible" as they are all divisible by any number, you just don't come up with a nice, round number as a result.

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Sorry, as a mathematician by training, I use the term in the technical sense. Yes, evenly divisble.

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Will the new hex size allow the labelling of places like Simpson Harbor?
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I don't know if it's been mentioned, but with the 40 mile hexes, Kwajalein Atoll should be three hexes.  You've got Kwajalein Island and Ebeye in the south, Roi-Namur about 40 miles to the north, and Ebadon about 40 miles west of Roi-Namur.  The Japanese put a naval base and seaplane base at Kwajalein Is and Ebeye, and the main air base at Roi-Namur; they never developed the western portion of the atoll.
 
Kwajalein is the largest atoll in the world, but there are a few other large atolls that could conceivably be spread over two hexes. 
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I have been away for quite a while, but i do want to comment on the map: I liked AB's art work much more than the standards map. It was much easier with AB's map to tell the terrain type. I hope the new map uses the full hex type art of AB's map.
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Will the new hex size allow the labelling of places like Simpson Harbor?

The map is bigger but not by that much. There are not really many more labels on the map (currently) than there are on my WitP map.

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I don't know if it's been mentioned, but with the 40 mile hexes, Kwajalein Atoll should be three hexes. You've got Kwajalein Island and Ebeye in the south, Roi-Namur about 40 miles to the north, and Ebadon about 40 miles west of Roi-Namur. The Japanese put a naval base and seaplane base at Kwajalein Is and Ebeye, and the main air base at Roi-Namur; they never developed the western portion of the atoll.

Kwajalein is the largest atoll in the world, but there are a few other large atolls that could conceivably be spread over two hexes.

You are right about Kwajalein, although due to the placement of the hex grid on the AE map it ends up covering two hexes, not three (with Roi-Namur and Ebadon occupying opposite edges of the more Northern hex, and Kwajalein Island in an adjacent hex).

The only other two-hex "atoll" on the map that I can think of is the Babeldaob/Peleliu pairing. Technically there is another one in French Polynesia, but there are so many atolls there that it makes up part of a mass of adjacent atoll hexes.

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Andrew, does this mean that these large atolls will show up as 2 bases on the map? IE Kwajalein and Roi-Namur. Twice as much to defend, and twice as much to neutralize for an attack if it is the case.
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Andrew, are there going to any small air bases between Whyalla and Kalgoorlie to facilitate transferring short ranged fighters between SE Oz and Perth? I find it hard to believe that the RAAF was unable to shift Hurricanes from one coast to the other without placing them aboard ships.
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Andrew, does this mean that these large atolls will show up as 2 bases on the map? IE Kwajalein and Roi-Namur. Twice as much to defend, and twice as much to neutralize for an attack if it is the case.

Yes. Two bases in separate, adjacent hexes.

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Andrew, are there going to any small air bases between Whyalla and Kalgoorlie to facilitate transferring short ranged fighters between SE Oz and Perth? I find it hard to believe that the RAAF was unable to shift Hurricanes from one coast to the other without placing them aboard ships.

The RAAF only had 1 Hurricane.

Put them on a train, they would arrive on the East Coast overnight.

Ceduna would be the only base between Kalgoorlie & Whyalla and was an RAAF AOB.
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Well, if in reality they only had one more airfield on that route that's all they should get. Oh well...
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Ceduna would be the only base between Kalgoorlie & Whyalla and was an RAAF AOB.

Ceduna is included. So is Esperance.

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Will we see river movement?

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Will we see river movement?


There are a few "navigable" rivers that can accommodate ships up to 15,000 tons. Navigation along smaller rivers is not possible (as currently).

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Will we see river movement?


There are a few "navigable" rivers that can accommodate ships up to 15,000 tons. Navigation along smaller rivers is not possible (as currently).

Andrew

Hmm Littoral Warfare...

I assume we're going to have River patrol boats?
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Will we see river movement?


There are a few "navigable" rivers that can accommodate ships up to 15,000 tons. Navigation along smaller rivers is not possible (as currently).

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