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One thing that I have learnt in this PBEM is: never start a PBEM when you don´t have hrs for all and everything. We started the game with: if there´s an issue we can set hrs in. Well, there´s a hr now for 4E bombers for example (which Hortlund insists in) but he doesn´t want to have one regarding all IJAAF bombers massed within 5 hexes on ASW patrol. 4Es are too deadly against ships, well Betties dropping torps everytime is fine... Sometimes I wonder who is more stubborn. He or me?

I even have my own hr about not bombing enemy occupied oil / HI / resources to make the game more realistic and to force me into a realistic sub war. Well, with how Hortlund seems to think about a realistic air ASW, my own thinking about a realistic sub war has vanished... [8|]
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I even have my own hr about not bombing enemy occupied oil / HI / resources to make the game more realistic

Why? In the real war the USAAF did in fact bomb occupied oil resources. Balikpapan's fields and refineries were struck on several occasions.
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Well, I have to say, that I too use a huge portion of my army bomber force on ASW starting around mid 42 or so. Granted I do not mass all 300 or so in a small area, but will place 36 or 27 on every level 4 airfield backed up by an ASW TF or 2. What the bombers do not hit, my ASW jumps on. But when you look at the number of level 4 air bases, I can mass alot real fast if needed. Or even have the 200 or so in a small area.
 
I have not had anyone try an early sub campaign against me though. Most wait until 1943 until the torps are fixed, so I might when faced with this react the same way as him.
 
But I will mass every army bomber to shut down an airfield or 2 and then return them to ASW duty.
 
I always ask for a HR of 4E not below 10,000 feet on naval strike. But since I play nikmod, I do not worry too much about 4E's coming in at treetop level. They can really hurt me, but I will hurt them too. I have to agree on the const bn creating a ZOC though. For cutting off units, I would prefer a brigade at least. And ask for such ahead of time by HR. Feel free to ZOC me, but at least use a brigade or larger. Even a full infantry regiment makes it more realistic.
 
 
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I even have my own hr about not bombing enemy occupied oil / HI / resources to make the game more realistic

Why? In the real war the USAAF did in fact bomb occupied oil resources. Balikpapan's fields and refineries were struck on several occasions.

yes, but for me it´s just too easy to destroy every point of HI / oil / resources in range of my bombers AND it should force the Allied player (ME [:D]) to use my subs. It also should force me to take bases in the SRA back asap to interdict shipping there, if not, the Japanese player can bring back his oil for a long time. And because I have even seen suicide carrier attacks in my PBEMs in mid 42 when the Allied massed his carriers to send them on a suicide mission to take out Palembang´s oil fields for example. Lose 3 carriers for the destruction of 400-600 oil points is something good in the long run, even if it might be stupid in the short run.
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Well, I have to say, that I too use a huge portion of my army bomber force on ASW starting around mid 42 or so. Granted I do not mass all 300 or so in a small area, but will place 36 or 27 on every level 4 airfield backed up by an ASW TF or 2. What the bombers do not hit, my ASW jumps on. But when you look at the number of level 4 air bases, I can mass alot real fast if needed. Or even have the 200 or so in a small area.

I have not had anyone try an early sub campaign against me though. Most wait until 1943 until the torps are fixed, so I might when faced with this react the same way as him.

But I will mass every army bomber to shut down an airfield or 2 and then return them to ASW duty.

I always ask for a HR of 4E not below 10,000 feet on naval strike. But since I play nikmod, I do not worry too much about 4E's coming in at treetop level. They can really hurt me, but I will hurt them too. I have to agree on the const bn creating a ZOC though. For cutting off units, I would prefer a brigade at least. And ask for such ahead of time by HR. Feel free to ZOC me, but at least use a brigade or larger. Even a full infantry regiment makes it more realistic.


there´s no difference when it comes to the bombers on ASW if you attack in 42 or late 45. My torps don´t affect the hit rates of super massed IJA bombers. Like I said, as a Japanese player, of course I also use Army bombers for ASW. Not all of them and of course and normally I put them into bases that their search range of 8 doesn´t overlap but should be close together. Heck, this way I still have a lot, probably also 200 or so bombers on nav search. BUT on the whole map. In my game against Swift I had one Sentai of Sallies in the Pacific and used it in the area Johnston down to Canton and this single Sentai achieved FAR too many hits.

So while Steve just doesn´t want to understand my point, for me the use of hundreds of Helens in the Philipines alone is off.

Regarding the ZOC. Well he used his units in India that consisted of something like 3 dozen men on average to create Zocs through all of India, so I´m pretty sure that his construction btn (that I can´t even hurt with my airattacks anymore) will march into the trail hex North of Akyab. Why should it else be in this place? When it arrives, I will do a NON BASE HEX LANDING - thus breaking one of our HRs and forcing my opponent to quit the game at the latest then. [8|]

I think a non base hex landing is gamey! Something my opponent will agree to. But he doesn´t think it is gamey to cut the supply path for 100.000 Allied troops with a construction btn. I think that is gamey too, but there´s no sense in even discussing it I fear. In fact, I guess the time we invest into the game and our AARs is wasted if we can´t get to agree to certain things in the game when it comes down to "gameyness".
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/27/42

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Sub attack at 32,64

Japanese Ships
AK Nisshun Maru
PG Takunan Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Gar

Gar! missed... [:o]

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

31 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CLAA Caradoc, Shell hits 18
CL Dauntless
CL Durban
CL Dragon
CL Danae

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Caradoc has none of her mainarmament anymore...

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

26 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CL Newcastle, Shell hits 13
CA Frobisher
CA Exeter
CA Cornwall

Japanese ground losses:
531 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 6
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1

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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 23

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 2
B-17E Fortress x 43
B-24D Liberator x 91

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged
D3A Val: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 21 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 42 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
170 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Airbase hits 23
Airbase supply hits 15
Runway hits 136

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 16000 feet

I had 24 Lightnings at the base but I forgot to set them to escort! [>:] Perhaps it was better anyway as the last time my Lightnings encountered Zeroes they lost 15:0. Half of our bombers are damaged, the BGs can be seen as inoperational. Drop of morale was between 30 and 40! [X(] Nevertheless this time we achieve an unbelievable high hit rate, seems the exp of mostly around 80 of my 4Es pays off. We moved most of the 4Es out and have set 200 Mitchels on airfield attack tomorrow. After my last attack on shipping at Gili Gili, the Cap at Thursday Island dropped from 60+ to around 30 every turn while the Cap at Gili Gili went up. We took advantage of that and hit Thursday hard today. In total Japan lost 18 aircraft today to 6 Allied aircraft. 4 4Es were lost though (most to flak) which is 3 times as many as the daily replacement rate. What saves me from running out is the fact that I can´t use them the next couple of days due to so many being damaged.

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 129


No Allied losses

Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
45 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 40


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 7th AF Construction Battalion, at 31,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 76
Kittyhawk I x 14


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

is there a reason why we can´t damage this construction btn?

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 69288 troops, 863 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1504

Defending force 96302 troops, 945 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1702



Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Akyab

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 65572 troops, 792 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1702

Defending force 84038 troops, 903 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1504


Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

I´m already thinking about pulling out of Akyab again. Can´t see what I should achieve there as the Japanese airforce isn´t fighting for it anyway and I would need some 4000 assault points to take the base.
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Has the exp of your lcus at Akyab improved any?
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Has the exp of your lcus at Akyab improved any?


not really, if it increased at all. Most of my units are around mid 60 with 2 Brit divs in the low 70s. Though I don´t know how low they started out. There wasn´t a deliberate attacks from any side so only bombardments all the time.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/28/42

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Sub attack at 32,64

Japanese Ships
AK Chuko Maru
PC Ch 5
MSW Rokko Maru
MSW Musashi Maru

Allied Ships
SS Thresher

6 torps missed... [8|]

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Sub attack at 32,64

Japanese Ships
AK Hidaka Maru
PC Ch 5
MSW Rokko Maru
MSW Musashi Maru

Allied Ships
SS Thresher

Thresher attacked again a s l o w merchant, this time with 4 torps and she missed again. [8|] I´ve already mentioned that the hit rate of subs is really poorly modelled in WITP. That´s not something I´m saying because I have that feeling in my stomache, just look at the last 10 pages of this AAR. Once again the developers failed, unfortunately. 60 torps to hit and sink one merchant? With salvoes of two or three times more torps than were used in real life? [>:] Heck, what did Matrix really think about when developing this game? Or am I just super duper unlucky with the dices? No matter how lucky or unlucky I am, probabilities should hit at some point. If not, then they are most likely not right.

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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 142
P-40B Tomahawk x 72
B-26B Marauder x 128


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 5 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
233 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 23
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 58

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 16000 feet

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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 84
B-24D Liberator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged
D3A Val: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 29 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 16000 feet

70% of our bombers and 100% of our Lightnings failed to locate the target. Hit rate is poor and the ground losses not worth mentioning.

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 141


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 8
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 40


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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ASW attack near Bulla at 40,75

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato

Allied Ships
SS S-33

ASW attack? Nagato on ASW attack? [:-]

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 69236 troops, 862 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1505

Defending force 96343 troops, 942 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1710



Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Akyab

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 13484 troops, 250 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1710

Defending force 83870 troops, 899 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1505


Japanese ground losses:
165 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

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Hortlund said today that he will limit his Army bombers on ASW somewhat. [X(] Well, this isn´t because I came up with good arguments, as until yesterday he thought my arguments are BS, but I guess it is because of his game against Jumper, where Jumper used KB to sweep the sealane between New Guinea and Australia of the dozens of subs Hortlund had there! [:D]

He told me that he now sees my point! [:D] So if that wouldn´t have happened he would still think it´s realistic what he did. But then it must be also realistic if KB kills two dozen subs within a week if employed as an ASW vacuum cleaner as it would have been physically possible to set all (or most) KB bombers on ASW attack, even though noone would have ever thought of doing that in real life.
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All i can say that i would't want him for my lawyer. Poor ol' Hortlund probably losing all his cases.[:D]
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All i can say that i would't want him for my lawyer. Poor ol' Hortlund probably losing all his cases.[:D]


honestly, IMO it´s a bit strange that he tells me for days how realistic it is to mass hundreds on IJAAF medium bombers in the Philipines to hunt down 12 of my subs and then he complains about Jumper that he used KB to hunt 40 of his subs within 8 hexes.

At least he "can see my point now".
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His point is that the rules should require that his opponent tie their hands behind their backs.

Look, you've noted that you've not engaged in 4EB strategic raids on oil resources because you felt obliged to let your submarines do the lifting for you as it felt "more historical." PzjH has stumbled on a cute trick that makes ahistorical use of his assets to neutralize your historical use of yours. I think you should feel free to send B-24s after Balikpapan or any other resource hex that looks vulnerable to you whenever you want. That use of American 4EBs has lots of historical precedent in the PTO and the ETO.

Now that I think of it, when it becomes feasible, a few Allied 4EB massive night bombing raids on bases packed with IJAAF bombers set to ASW patrol might be poetic justice.

Back in the days of GGPW, one way to give the Japanese player the conniptions was to use B-17s over bases packed with Zeros, because the game engine made Zeros quite vulnerable (properly so) and B-17s far too invulnerable. In effect you had something like a B-17 fighter sweep death star effect in which you could run up Zero losses by looking for trouble with B-17s. It was of course historically unprecedented and gamey as hell, and in PBEM most people agreed not to do such things. But against PzjH, that sort of gamey trick is simply fair turnabout, IMO.
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His point is that the rules should require that his opponent tie their hands behind their backs.

Look, you've noted that you've not engaged in 4EB strategic raids on oil resources because you felt obliged to let your submarines do the lifting for you as it felt "more historical." PzjH has stumbled on a cute trick that makes ahistorical use of his assets to neutralize your historical use of yours. I think you should feel free to send B-24s after Balikpapan or any other resource hex that looks vulnerable to you whenever you want. That use of American 4EBs has lots of historical precedent in the PTO and the ETO.

Now that I think of it, when it becomes feasible, a few Allied 4EB massive night bombing raids on bases packed with IJAAF bombers set to ASW patrol might be poetic justice.

Back in the days of GGPW, one way to give the Japanese player the conniptions was to use B-17s over bases packed with Zeros, because the game engine made Zeros quite vulnerable (properly so) and B-17s far too invulnerable. In effect you had something like a B-17 fighter sweep death star effect in which you could run up Zero losses by looking for trouble with B-17s. It was of course historically unprecedented and gamey as hell, and in PBEM most people agreed not to do such things. But against PzjH, that sort of gamey trick is simply fair turnabout, IMO.


I won´t break my own hr (which is one that I have only for me, it was never suggested from my opponent).

I just can´t get it that Hortlund is so upset about Jumper when he´s doing the same as Hortlund is doing.[8|] well, do something gamey and it´s realistic for you, if your opponent does the gamey thing you do to you, then cry foul...

We´re entering 43 in a few days and this PBEM has come further than I thought, as Hortlund and I seem to have nearly always complete different oppinions when it comes down to "game the game". I especially liked when he posted that he hates players that are "gaming the game"...

still, with all the frustration we surely both had (as he thinks that everything I did so far is gamey too) it was more or less worth spending the time. And I have to say he´s a very reliable opponent.
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You are a gent. You and Gen Hoepner are models of tolerance. [&o]
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/29/42

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TF 1026 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Allied Ships
DD Fortune, Mine hits 1

mine hit? as usual...

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Allied Ships
CL Dauntless
CL Durban
CL Dragon
CL Danae

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3
Port supply hits 1


4 CLs and no damage? as usual...

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Allied Ships
CL Newcastle
CA Frobisher
CA Exeter
CA Cornwall

Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

no comment...
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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 146
P-40B Tomahawk x 62
B-26B Marauder x 111


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
177 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 185

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 16000 feet

but today, the bombers achieve a very high hit rate! 6 bombers are lost...

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 142


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 40


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 7th AF Construction Battalion, at 31,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 79
Kittyhawk I x 16


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

no ground losses? as usual...

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Day Air attack on TF at 118,88

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 4
G4M1 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AP President Garfield, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Chaumont, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet


[:@][:@] three precious APs end up 6 hexes from Christmas Island and are immediately attacked of course. Damn wayfinding... if you don´t check EVERY TF every third turn, something like this happens...

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 69047 troops, 851 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 1504

Defending force 96329 troops, 945 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1711



Allied ground losses:
79 casualties reported

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You are a gent. You and Gen Hoepner are models of tolerance. [&o]


well, I´m not so tolerant as you might think and for sure not nearly as tolerant as Gen Hoepner! [;)]
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/30/42

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Gili Gili at 56,94

Japanese Ships
AK Kiyosumi Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AK Lyons Maru, Shell hits 24, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead
DD Grayson
DD Morris

I could say: as usual, there are no heavy escorts for Japanese convoys going to front line bases. And again we take advantage of that and this TF is shot to pieces. Two big AKs lost.


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Gili Gili at 56,94

Japanese Ships
AK Isin Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
AK Nitiran Maru
AK Nitiyo Maru, Shell hits 7, on fire

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead
DD Grayson
DD Morris

The second TF with two big and a small AK was surprised also but our ships break off pretty fast again... Marblehead has already a night exp of 62 which is pretty high for a USN ship.

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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
P-38G Lightning x 24
B-25C Mitchell x 145
B-24D Liberator x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 11 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 4 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 31 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 11 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 63

Aircraft Attacking:
37 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 16000 feet

the second time we see Lightnings in combat! Last time the Zeroes over Lautern took down our Lightnings at a 15:0 rate, [X(] so I was hesitant to use them again. After our succesful attack on Thursday Island a couple of turns ago I decided it could be worth a try as I was more or less sure there wouldn´t be a big Cap. I was right and the dozen Zeroes in the air were not able to really harm our fighters this time. We started off with the bounce on our side and took down 4 Zeroes pretty fast when the bounce changed sides and the Zeroes damaged a couple of our Lightnings before another Zero was shot down. One of our long range escorts was lost to ops, flak was absolutely effective again and the airfield will be completely repaired by the 30.000 troops there within the next three days.

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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 75
B-24D Liberator x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 3 destroyed
D3A Val: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 21 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 75

Aircraft Attacking:
41 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 16000 feet

this is the follow up attack from Townsville...



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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 141


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 30


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet


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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 69081 troops, 851 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1502

Defending force 96363 troops, 941 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1708



Allied ground losses:
162 casualties reported

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/31/42

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TF 5 encounters mine field at Gili Gili (56,94)

Japanese Ships
AK Isin Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

sub laid MK12...

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Sub attack at 33,51

Japanese Ships
AK Yamasimo Maru
PC Shonan Maru #6
MSW Tama Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS Kingfish

6 torps... all missed! [8|] Looking at the last 5 pages of this AAR, this is not ridicoulos?? The developer responsible for the coding of sub attacks unfortunately never had a chance to take a look at a book about subs in WWII... what a pity...

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 15
P-39D Airacobra x 141


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 10
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 30


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 45
SBD Dauntless x 13
TBF Avenger x 13
Wellington III x 45


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 1 damaged
Wellington III: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 40
Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 69201 troops, 855 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1504

Defending force 96090 troops, 939 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 1706



Allied ground losses:
110 casualties reported

our troops at Akyab were already ordered to move North again... the Japanese airforce isn´t willing to fight for Akya (no wonder when they have flak from the 23rd century there[8|]), Rangoon and Mandalay are already operating hundreds of Tojos (which are far superior to all we can field), so the battle for Burma will begin in... 1958...
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Next month we have to again withdraw a BB and 2 DDs... we´re still -700 with our political points.
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