Harpoon 3 – Advanced Naval Warfare Is Updated!

[Alex Fiedler]

All hands on deck! A major new update is headed this way!

Matrix Games and Advanced Gaming Systems (www.advancedgaming.biz) are pleased to announce the release of a new update for Harpoon 3 – Advanced Naval Warfare. The new update brings scores of improvements and new features in addition to a few major changes to the Harpoon 3 system. Major improvements to the game include an augmented and more realistic land damage model, a revamped electronic counter-measures system, and new rules for ship to ship fuel transfer.

David Heath, Director of Operations at Matrix Games, said “Harpoon 3 – Advanced Naval Warfare is one of those games that with near-infinite replayability. Our thanks are due to Advanced Gaming Systems team who continually work to improve the realism and playability of Harpoon 3 and continue to support the growing Harpoon community.”

Don Gilman of Advanced Gaming Systems added “Each new update for Harpoon 3 – Advanced Naval Warfare gives gamers more reasons to come aboard and play this uniquely realistic naval warfare simulation. Our team is thrilled to continue to work with our community and volunteers on this amazing gaming system. We will continue to do our best to give gamers the ultimate naval warfare experience.”

Harpoon 3 – Advanced Naval Warfare is the culmination of decades of development and fan support, resulting in the most comprehensive, realistic, and accurate simulation of modern combined air and naval operations available to the gaming public. Harpoon 3 gives the player an opportunity to manage some of the most advanced air and naval assets available in the world, putting them in the middle of many historical and ‘what if’ scenarios. Players will have the chance to battle it out against a variety of enemies using technology from all of the premier naval powers of the day: Iranian Revolutionary Guard in the Persian Gulf, re-live Operation El Dorado Canyon, strike at the heart of Libya, guard the Greenland-Iceland-UK gap to stop a Soviet naval invasion of the Atlantic, or stalk unwary U.S. shipping in a Soviet Akula-class submarine.

Get more information on Harpoon 3 – Advanced Naval Warfare from its product page. This update is comprehensive and will bring the version of the game up to 3.90.

http://www.matrixgames.com/games/downloads.asp?gid=323

[evaamo2]

hello there, is this different from the RC6 that was posted just two or three days ago?
I'd hate to re-download 220Mb again [:(]

thanks,
-E

[Kegel]

Doesnt seem like ANYONE here is on the same page.

[rsharp@advancedgamin]

This is not a beta release. This is the final 3.9 patch. A full installer for Harpoon 3.9 will be available soon.

This release includes fixes for at least three issues found in the release candidates.

[FransKoenz]

Summary:
After 3.7.0 release: 80 Issues reported
After 3.8.0 Patch: (80 Issues - 34 Fixed + 88 New) = 134 Issues
After 3.9.0 Patch: (134 Issues - 33 fixed + 68 New) = 169 Issues

A comprehensive third-party list of 134 * Known Harpoon [ANW] Issues has been exhaustively collected on GameSquad since the release of Harpoon ANW 3.7.0 Now that the 3.9.0 patch has been released, the list has been checked to see what has changed. While it is by no means definitive, it is believed that:

These 33 behaviours appear to have been resolved by the 3.9.0 patch:

• Jamming from dead ships
  
  Ships that are destroyed still show the Active Jamming "*" indicator.
• SAVE AS window error
  
  When SAVE or SAVE AS function is selected, other files with either *.SAV or *.SCN suffixes do not appear in the selection window.
• Replenishment at-sea
  
  Non-functional
• Binoculars jammed
  
  Ground units with only Binoculars for sensors are shown as jammed by ECM.
• UnRep broken
  
  Tanker and ship unable to meet for Underway Replenishment.
• AI subs will not re-charge batteries
  
  AI-controlled subs will not re-charge batteries when depleted as there is no one around to depress the 'R' hotkey for the AI.
• ViCond Set polygon not possible
  
  It is not possible to set up a Victory Condition polygon. Once the ViCond menu comes up, designer cannot click on the map to designate a polygon.
• AAA firing past Max Range
  
  Guns continue to fire long after targets pass out of range.
• Accuracy slider changes combat
  
  Accuracy slider changes combat calculation. Combat may or may not occur dependant upon the setting of the slider from Low/Fast Accuracy/Speed and High/Slow.
• EmCon does not match display
  
  EmCon status of units does not match the EmCon state shown in Unit display and there is no way to turn it off..
• F1 Key will not attack
  
  F1 Key will not attack second target.
• Min Firing Range prohibits weapon use
  
  Weapons (guns, ASW rockets, and others) with a Minimum Firing Range value > 0 will not fire.
• On Station ViCond does not trigger in MP
  
  On Station Victory Condition triggers erratically.
• Runways can be destroyed
  
  Runway facilities can now be destroyed.
• SE shows different results from GE
  
  ScenEdit shows different results from Game Engine test.
• Shallow depth shown at -20m
  
  Submarine at -20m is shown at Shallow depth and not Periscope depth.
• Strike Mission continues to dead target
  
  Strike Mission continues to target even after it is already destroyed.
• Tubes Cannot Change Loadout without repeated commands
  
  Torpedo tube loadouts cannot be changed after re-loading by AI.
• VLow altitude button missing
  
  VLow altitude button missing for helicopters when Speed/Altitude menu called up.
• Wrong altitude shown
  
  TLAM shows Periscope depth.
• Guns do not fire all ammo when ordered to do so
  
  Guns do not fire all ammo when ordered to do so
• ECM nullifies BOL weapons
  
  ECM nullifies weapons on Bearing-Only-Launch. All missiles are automatically drawn to the jammer regardless if it can hit the target or not due to the Home-on-Jam flag.
• Ferry mission crash
  
  If you set up a delayed Ferry mission and the receiving/landing facility (revetment/airfield) is destroyed (or deleted by the designer) before the mission is activated, the game will crash when the AI tries to launch the Ferry mission.
• Formation air patrols cancelled by Edit A/C function
  
  Formation air patrols cancelled by use Edit A/C function on the launching platform or hangar.
• Subs re-charge at Creep
  
  Subs are able to re-charge batteries without running throttles at Flank speed.
• Type 65-76 disappear on BOL
  
  Type 65-76 torpedoes disappear after reaching activation point even though they have copious fuel remaining.
• Unlimited ammo dumps
  
  Unlimited ammo expenditures allowed.
• Planes disappear from base
  
  Planes were added to a base and assigned to a mission. However, they disappear and access through the Mission editor is not possible.
• Mixed Unit and Group icon error
  
  Unit and Group icons show up at the same time when platforms deleted in SE.
• Sub changes depth and goes active
  
  A sub on Plotted mission at max depth detects a ship, changes to periscope depth, and goes active on its own.
• ANW battleset - File not found
  
  Scenarios not found when trying to load ANW battleset.
• UGM-109 cannot be launched
  
  All UGM-109 Tomahawk TLAM in OriginalDB cannot be launched since none of the weapons has an engine / propulsion unit.
• Unknown Sub contacts not attacked
  
  Unknown submarine contacts no longer attacked unless positively identified as hostile.

These 101 behaviours do not appear to have been resolved by the 3.9.0 patch:

• AAA fire
  
  AAA guns are not limited by the altitude of the target and can even shoot down satellites.
• Automatic contact classification
  
  The true type classification of a contact is automatically revealed when it is designated hostile by the hotkey.
• Group Nav Zone Settings
  
  The Nav Zone settings for a Group are not adopted by the individual units forming that Group. i.e. If you order a TF to avoid Ship Threat Zone [A], the Group icon will avoid the Threat Zone but the individual ships of the Group will sail into the Threat Zone.
  
  Work-around solution: Set the Nav Zone parameters for each unit individually.
• Identification failure
  
  Sometimes, when you hit the Database button for a unit, only one possible identity is shown but the unit display will still describe it as Unknown.
• Subs in groups
  
  Subs joined with groups are automatically assigned a formation patrol zone on the ASW axis that cannot be changed or modified.
• Hangar overload
  
  It is possible to land many more aircraft than the hangar capacity allows.
• AI inside Minimum Launch Range
  
  If an AI unit finds itself inside the Minimum Launch Range of its weapons, it is unable to move away in order to fire its weapons.
• MAD contact for ground facilities
  
  The MAD detector is able to detect ground facilities.
• Sonobuoy battery endurance
  
  Battery endurance for sonobuoys is irrelevant.
• ARMs cause planes to hang
  
  Aircraft armed with Anti-Radiation Missiles and bombs will continue to hang over a target once the bombs are released if they have not fired their ARMs. This will occur even if ARMs cannot be fired at the target in question.
• Opening 3.6.3 scen causes crash
  
  Opening this scenario in ANW causes Crash. Scenario opens and runs fine in H3.6.3
• Ready times go wild when AI Formation Air Patrols activated
  
  Ready times go wild when AI Formation Air Patrols activated. This does not appear when the AI option is not enabled.
• All ammo not available
  
  300 rounds of ammo are shown, but only 44 are offered for fire allocation.
• Plane ignores Nav Zone
  
  Plane totally ignores Nav Zone
• Mission ignores target list
  
  Targets not restricted to target list for mission.
• Fly off the world CTD
  
  It is possible to 'fly off of the world' and cause CTD.
• Weapon ignores range limitation
  
  Weapon sometimes ignores range limitation and fires on targets outside of the range set by the Database. This can sometimes result in guns hitting targets 100s of miles away. Often, it occurs when the target is vaguely detected.
• Hidden units can be destroyed without detection
  
  When hidden units are part of a group, attacks on the Group Icon can destroy the hidden units without the need to ever detect them.
• Units out of range can be destroyed
  
  Units out of range can be destroyed if they are part of a group.
• Nukes won't work without AALog activated
  
  Nuclear weapons for BCGN Kirov do not work unless AALog is activated.
• Sonobuoy deployment altitude
  
  Sonobuoys can be deployed at any altitude.
• Sonobuoy datalink cannot be turned off
  
  Although the manual says that sonobuoys can be dropped / discarded by turning off the Comm Datalink to them, this is not true under any realism setting.
• Torpedoes ignore cruise depth
  
  Torpedoes ignore cruise depth set by the database even when the "Level Cruise Flight" flag has been set and a value has been entered in the "Cruise Altitude" field. They stay at the depth at which they were fired.
• Ground units attacked by Ship Strike mission
  
  Units assigned to Ship Strike missions will attack ground facilities.
• Ships attacked by Ground Strike mission
  
  Units assigned to Ground Strike missions will attack ships.
• Active sonobuoys dropped passively
  
  Sonobuoys with active-only sonar systems are dropped in passive mode even when the "Drop Active Sonobuoy" hotkey is depressed.
• Active sonobuoys do not deploy
  
  CASS Active Sonar Sonobuoys carried by S-2 Trackers do not deploy when the "Drop Active Sonobuoy (])" hotkey is depressed. However, they do deploy with "Drop Passive Sonobuoy ([)". "," and "." hotkeys seem to work properly.
• Max launch speed restriction
  
  When a unit is travelling faster than the Maximum Allowable Launch Speed of the weapons it is carrying and tries to fire them, the weapon allocation table appears and the player is mistakenly given the choice of firing the weapon. The window no longer displays a warning message and restricts player from attempts to fire.
• Hellfire do not launch in ODb
  
  Hellfire missiles will not launch even though they appear in the weapons allocation window.
• CTD when Database button is depressed
  
  When playing Multi-player games, scenarios will sometimes crash to the desktop when the Database button has been depressed.
• Mission fails to navigate without Full throttle setting
  
  Aircraft without a "Full speed" throttle setting in the database are fully functional under manual control, but are unable to calculate a path to their targets under AI control.
• Planes directly inserted ignore target list
  
  Planes directly inserted ignore targets listed in strike missions. However, planes that launch on those same strike missions will obey the target strike list and not attack any target not on the list.
• All strikers fail to launch
  
  All aircraft assigned to a strike mission fail to launch.
• Player loses control
  
  Player loses control of all units in the middle of a game.
• Protect ViCond doesn't evaluate properly
  
  Protect ship Victory Condition does not evaluate properly.
• Game ends abruptly
  
  When playing Multi-player games, scenarios will end at incorrect times. One side gets a message that it has not fulfilled the ViConds and has lost. He is then kicked from the game even though there is plenty of time remaining. This occurs more often during "high" time compression rate (1:60+).
• Altitude mis-match between Group and units
  
  Units and Group icons show different altitude values in SE.
• ASW/WH torps tracking wrong targets
  
  WH/ASW torps tracking targets they cannot hit.
• Ferry mission fails to launch
  
  Ferry mission fails to launch unless manually ordered to do so.
• Min engine altitude ignored
  
  Min engine altitude ignored for Trident SLBM. Missile can be launched from a depth deeper that allowed by the engine parameters.
• SSM Altitude crash
  
  Land-based SSMs appear to crash into the surface after launch and ignore their cruise altitude.
• TALD materialize at wrong point
  
  When firing lots of missiles i.e. TALD, the missiles all originate from the same point even when the plane moves away.
• Time compression causes miss
  
  Higher time compression creates automatic miss.
• Weapon Max Launch Speed ignored
  
  Weapons ignore Maximum Launch Speed set in database.
• Passive sonobuoys will not deploy
  
  Passive sonobuoys will not deploy with "[" hotkey. Active sonobuoys will deploy.
• Phantom air group
  
  Phantom air group.
• Re-Charge at Int depth
  
  Subs are reported to be re-charging batteries at Intermediate depth, but it is not known if charge levels actually increase.
• Ammo dumps emptied
  
  Ammo dumps in all ODb scenarios have been emptied of weapons for aircraft.
• Ground targets re-engaged prematurely
  
  Targets are being re-engaged prematurely. Missiles are still in flight when successive attacks are launched thus wasting weapons.
• Map Scale inaccurate
  
  Map scale is erroneous.
• Max altitude for planes is 32,767m
  
  The Max altitude for planes is now 32,767m. Previously, it was unlimited and could simulate satellite platforms.
• MP Saved game titles
  
  MP Saved game titles often use portions of the orders in lieu of the Session name.
• SSK rises early
  
  Diesel subs rise to Periscope depth long before their batteries are exhausted.
• Unassign command sound missing
  
  Use of the Unassign Hotkey command on groups will elicit an audible "ping". However, this audible cue is missing when the same command is issued to individual units.
• CTD ViCond crash when windows closed out of order
  
  When setting ViCond, the ScenEditor can crash when windows are closed out of sequence from which they were opened.
• AAW patrol motionless
  
  AAW patrol motionless instead of flying between assigned reference points.
• Accuracy slider changes combat II
  
  Accuracy slider changes combat calculation. Air strike resolves differently when slider set on Low/Fast or High/Slow Accuracy setting.
• Air Group formation
  
  Air Groups do not form properly when the launching platform is destroyed before the group is fully launched.
• CTD with Re-build Scenario function
  
  Crash to the desktop when Scenario Rebuild - Re-build All Units is selected with AxisEvil.scn.
• Dead top after torp evasion
  
  Escort comes to a dead stop after torpedo evasion.
• Destroyed planes not counted on Installations
  
  Planes added to Installations are not counted in Victory Conditions when they are destroyed on the ground.
• Dual speeds selected
  
  When ships are damaged, sometimes dual speeds are show in the throttle setting.
• Engagement symbol missing
  
  Overscore symbol over aircraft fails to appear when engaged by AAA unless one of the aircraft are shot down.
• F6 Key will not attack
  
  F6 Key will not attack target.
• Generic strikes seek additional targets
  
  Generic strikes seek additional targets after initial target is destroyed even if secondary targets have no relation to original target.
• Haphazard weapons re-loading
  
  Weapons do not reload with weapon previously fired.
• Inconsistent RoF
  
  Guns have different rates of fire between H3.6.3. and ANW.
• Indexation status false
  
  ANW Launcher claim that "most community-databases do not support" indexation by Time and Country is false.
• Missiles drawn to wrong targets
  
  Missiles fired at targets located with pinpoint precision are still drawn to other targets.
• Nav Zones re-set by mission editor
  
  Nav Zones are re-set by mission editor every time a mission is edited.
• Phantom mounts shown on aircraft
  
  Phantom mounts are shown on aircraft when the Logistics button is pushed.
• Planes jammed against Nav Zone
  
  Planes are unable to plot path around Nav Zone.
• Propulsion ranges import improperly
  
  Propulsion ranges do not import to the Reimer Editor properly. Ranges with a speed of Zero will not import even when those ranges are required for proper platform behaviour in units such as mines and false contacts.
• Ready display always visible
  
  Aircraft ready display shows all planes available at a base regardless of the Base's ability to launch them. Previously, when a base was damaged, those aircraft not able to launch (i.e. Large/VLarge planes) no longer showed up in the Ready menu until the runway was repaired.
• Ready Times shortened
  
  Aircraft with long ready times can have them shortened to the default 30 minutes.
• Re-build All causes planes to loiter
  
  Planes that normally flew at cruise speed go to loiter when Re-Built All command is used.
• Sanity check fails for multiple weapons records
  
  Sanity check reports an error when a Quantity value >1 is entered beside a Weapons Record in either the Loadout tabel or the Magazine table even though this causes no problem for the game, itself.
• Sanity check fails for propulsion alt bands
  
  Sanity check reports an error if altitude bands for propulsion entries are not in sequential order.
• Sanity check fails for propulsion max alt
  
  Sanity check fails to report an error if the max altitude for the propulsion system is greater than the allowable altitude for aircraft. Maximum altitude for aircraft is 32,767m but maximum engine operational altitude value can be set higher.
• Sanity check fails for Ready Times
  
  Sanity check fails to account for different Ready Times in loadout table. Loadouts that have identical weapons with only differ in Ready Times are identified as 'duplicate' entries by the Sanity Check.
• Scen locks up at 15 secs into game
  
  Scenario freezes 15 seconds after start of game.
• Sensor default values are zero
  
  When Sensor menu [F9] is activated for individual units or groups, all default values are Zero. Previously, the default values were 1 min Active followed by 5 minutes Passive for all types of sensors. Proper default values of 1min/5min appear if a group of separate units are "drag-selected" and then the F9 hotkey is depressed.
• Sonar detects facility
  
  Land facility detected by sonar.
• SSMs ignore delayed strike mission
  
  Land-based SSMs ignore delay time for Strike missions.
• Strike Mission fails to cancel
  
  Ground Strike Mission fails to cancel after target is destroyed.
• Strikes fail to launch
  
  Air strikes that performed properly in ANW 3.7.0 now fail to launch at all.
• Submarine evades own torpedoes
  
  Submarine evades her own wake-homing torpedoes after firing. This does not occur with wire-guided torpedoes.
• Subs fire SS-N-15 onto the ice
  
  Submarines are able to fire SS-N-15 Starfish while under polar ice.
• Subs surfacing under ice
  
  Submarines are able to rise to the surface from under the ice pack and run on the surface.
• Subsequent strikes are disorganized
  
  Subsequent strikes are disorganized and launch in separate groups.
• Support missions do not fully launch
  
  Not all aircraft assigned to support missions launch as they previously did in H3.6.3.
• Torps chase improper targets
  
  Torpedoes chase the improper targets once they reach their activation point even though all potential targets are identical.
• Unarmed units not engaged
  
  Unarmed units will not be engaged by AI units (sub or ship) on Plotted mission. This is due to the fact that the targets pose no 'threat' to the AI unit thus elicits no response. Once weapons are added to the targets, they are immediately attacked.
• Unassigned SSMs do not fire
  
  Unassigned land-based SSMs will fire on ships, but not against land targets.
• Tubes re-load different weapons
  
  After firing, torpedo tubes re-load with different weapons than those just fired even when replacement weapons are available.
• Range rings appears when none should
  
  Radar range rings displayed for air group when radar is passive.
• Range rings missing
  
  Range rings missing for air groups.
• Unable to set Weapons Tight in SE
  
  Scenario designer is unable to set Weapons Tight in ScenEditor.
• Submarine control lost
  
  Submarine control lost when sole ship is sunk.
• Cannot rescind re-fuel order
  
  It is not possible to rescind air-to-air re-fueling order once it is issued.
• Torps inoperative in shallow water
  
  Mk46 ASW torpedoes are inoperative in shallow water and will not release when water depth is -10m.

These 68 new behaviours appear to have been introduced by the 3.9.0 patch:

• Unable to fire SSM
  
  Unable to fire SSM Sizzler from any depth or range. Weapons will fire from DDG Sovremennyy.
• Unable to intercept target
  
  Unable to intercept target for either unit. Weapons will fire if units are manually placed within range of target.
• AGM-130A will not fire
  
  AGM-130A will not fire under AI control.
• Distorted maps created
  
  Distorted maps are created when F10 is used to draw a new map.
• Fighters hanging on refPt
  
  Fighters will launch and hang on one Ref point.
• Firing sonobuoys at subs
  
  Sonobuoys can be fired at subs through the weapons allocation window.
• Full speed over 140kts
  
  Ship group shows full speed of 15+131kts.
• Full speed wrong
  
  Group only allows full speed of 15kts, but all units within the group are fully capable of faster speed.
• AGM-62 will not fire
  
  AGM-62 will not fire under AI control.
• Icons appear off map
  
  Icons for uncertainty zones appear off of the map and cannot be seen nor selected.
• Torpedo decoy fired at radar
  
  Torpedo decoy is an eligible weapon for firing at radar.
• UnRep do not return to PZs
  
  After conducting UnRep operation, participants do not return to original patrol zones within the formation.
• Wrong loadout descriptions
  
  Helix helos are show the wrong loadout descriptions. Display is Mk44 torp, but they revert to Minimal when launched.
• False contacts at -17000m
  
  False contacts at -17000m.
• CTD when altitude changed
  
  CTD when altitude changed in MP
• AI subs will not stop re-charging
  
  Sub never stops re-charging.
• Sonobuoys non-functional
  
  Sonobuoys deployed by Bear F non-functional.
• Afterburner unavailable at low alt
  
  Afterburner speed unavailable at low alt in MP for Rafale. No problem in Solitaire.
• Aircraft below sea level
  
  Aircraft below sea level.
• Cannot meet for UnRep
  
  Ships are unable to plot a path for UnRep when ordered to do so.
• Change in threat axis ignored
  
  Change in threat axis ignored in MP.
• Crash after nuclear detonation
  
  Crash after nuclear warhead detonates.
• Crash after re-building with SE
  
  Crash after re-building with SE.
• Crash after re-building with SE II
  
  Crash after re-building with SE. Clock will not start.
• Crash after re-building with SE III
  
  Crash after re-building with SE. Clock will not advance.
• Crash during re-build process
  
  ScenEditor freezes up and does not complete function when ordered to re-build scenario.
• Crash during re-build process II
  
  ScenEditor is unable to complete function when ordered to re-build scenario amd seems to be in endless loop.
• Crash during UnRep
  
  Game will crash/freeze up with infinite loop if replenishment ship moves during attempted UnRep rendezvous.
• CTD incomplete
  
  CTD does not drop game all the way down to the desktop. Instead, the Shell window remains and must be closed manually.
• Crash on re-load
  
  Crash while attempting to re-load same scenario file previously opened.
• CTD changing map size
  
  CTD occurs while changing size of tactical map.
• CTD during UnRep
  
  CTD occurs while selecting ordnance to be transferred with "Enter Number of Weapons" command.
• CTD on re-load
  
  CTD while attempting to re-load same scenario file previously opened.
• CTD running new scen in SE
  
  CTD occurs when new scenarios are written and immediately run in SE.
• CTD while drawing new map
  
  CTD while drawing new map
• Damage changes aircraft ready time instead of destroying them
  
  Damage changes aircraft ready time instead of destroying them. Planes are given a ready time of 0:00 but they never become ready unless player uses F6 to change them to Ready status.
• Delayed On-Station ViCond Faulty
  
  Delayed On-Station ViCond does not wait for delay time to expire before evaluating.
• Destroyed submarines not always evaluated in ViConds
  
  Destroyed submarines do not always evaluate properly in ViConds.
• Ferry mission to SSN
  
  It is possible to create a Ferry mission with the destination as an airplane or SSN.
• Focused strike not firing
  
  Artillery does not fire on a Focused Land Strike mission even when Weapons Free.
• Formation patrols ignore axis
  
  Formation patrols ignore axis when assigned patrol zones in the Formation editor. Most often, the patrols appear offset from the actual Threat Axis. i.e. if the Threat Zone is pointing North and a Patrol zone is assigned to it, the ship may take up a patrol zone 90 degrees off the intended placement. This occurs primarily in multi-player games, but has been reported in SP (by Shemar), too.
• Group and Unit speed incongruent
  
  Group and Unit speed are incongruent for the same unit.
• Group cannot lay string of sonobuoys
  
  Group cannot lay string of sonobuoys with ";" hotkey.
• Group speed differs from plane speed
  
  Air groups have different speed from individual plane speed in MP.
• Incorrect number to be readied
  
  When aircraft are ordered to change loadout for Minimal mission, an incorrect number of planes is recommended in the message window.
• Land facility reports abandoning ship
  
  Damage report states that crew is abandoning ship on a land facility.
• NAV improperly drawn
  
  NAV zone shows double-sided left wall and inability to modify other points of the zone.
• On-Station ViCond non-functional
  
  On-Station ViCond non-functional in GE but functional in SE.
• Over-filled magazines
  
  Over-filled magazines not detected and fixed.
• Plane does not re-arm upon landing
  
  Plane does not re-arm upon landing.
• Planes on Transit missions
  
  Planes can be assigned to Transit missions.
• Planes refuse to launch
  
  Planes requiring Small/Med runway refuse to launch from a base equipped with Medium runways. (From Petterr)
• Protect ViCond failure
  
  Protect ViCond fails to trigger even when no enemy is present to inflict damage on player.
• Runways cannot be destroyed by nukes
  
  Runways can be reduced, but not be destroyed by nuclear weapons.
• SAMs locate new targets in mid-flight
  
  SAMs locate new targets in mid-flight after original targets destroyed.
• Subs activate sonar on ship strike mission
  
  Subs activate sonar on ship strike mission. Previously, subs only activated radar on ship strike mission.
• TALD cannot be engaged
  
  TALD will not be engaged as they fly across target.
• TALD cannot be ignored
  
  TALD cannot be ignored as they fly towards player units.
• Total loss of unit control
  
  Player loses control of all units in the middle of a game.
• Unable to bomb sub on surface
  
  Planes are unable to bomb or strafe submarines even though they are on the surface and acting like ships.
• Ships are unable to navigate around ice
  
  Ships are unable to navigate around ice.
• Unidentified targets auto-engaged
  
  Unidentified and unknown targets are auto-engaged without being properly classified as hostile.
• UnRep can overload magazines
  
  UnRep can overload magazines by placing more weapons in the magazine that capacity allows.
• UnRep done concurrently
  
  UnRep process is conducted concurrently and not consecutively. If all items take 1 second to transfer, 1000 items can be transferred in a single second if they are all different items.
• UnRep for 2 ships only
  
  Only 2 ships can conduct UnRep at the same time even though the ship has ability to replenish 2 ships to port and 2 ships to starboard.
• UnRep magazine shows zero
  
  After UnRep procedure, magazine count shows zero weapons if a second UnRep operation is ordered.
• UnRep Teleportation
  
  UnRep process is possible while physically separated by several miles.
• Wrong cruise altitude
  
  TLAM shows cruise altitude of 20m and Intermediate depth.

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[rsharp@advancedgamin]

Hi Taitennek,

That is quite a list but the post really belongs in the Support section of this forum. We will go over it and see what has been fixed, what persists, which are duplicates, and what is by design. For instance, planes can be left on the runway and are more vulnerable when not put into the hangar.

Thanks for your input.

[FreekS]

Hi all,
 
I agree its a long list, so my top 10 most critical issues:
 
http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/showpost.php?p=982877&postcount=5

[rsharp@advancedgamin]

Folks,

This goes for everything and everyone. I can't support any forums besides the Matrix and AGSI forums. I won't follow those links but please feel welcome to join us here in discussion of any issues. That's a limitation I have to deal with.

Thanks for understanding,

[FransKoenz]

Then I would suggest that you invite the author of the list [Herman Hum] to join the discussion on this forum as well, after all, you AGSI/MATRIX guys can't stop telling the audience how things have been improved, and another one comes with other conclusions that there are even more nasty events that occure during game-play, as when Harpoon 3.7 was launched.
The buglist is not Herman's personal ukaze, but a summary of reports of players that faced strange events during gameplay[sometimes very stupide] , or simply face a black screen after the €50,= game crashed again.......

For the outsider it sounds like AGSI/MATRIX is running away for the reality.....



Harpoon ANW inferior to HC[E]. This is what you read on the Harpoon Classic Commanders Edition Forum.
So lads, prove that this is not true. fix the bugs rapidly, instead of talking nonsens

[rsharp@advancedgamin]

Thanks for your input Tatiennek. We will use your input as we use all customer's input. I do plan on going through the items one by one. I know some are valid and still others have been fixed for months.

Thanks again,

[FransKoenz]

ORIGINAL: rsharp@advancedgamin

Thanks for your input Tatiennek. We will use your input as we use all customer's input. I do plan on going through the items one by one. I know some are valid and still others have been fixed for months.

Thanks again,

Yaddaa, Yaddaa, Yaddaa
Oftewel: "Je smoesjes zijn leuk, maar je praatjes deugen niet!"

[Bucks]

ORIGINAL: Taitennek

Summary:
After 3.7.0 release: 80 Issues reported
After 3.8.0 Patch: (80 Issues - 34 Fixed + 88 New) = 134 Issues
After 3.9.0 Patch: (134 Issues - 33 fixed + 68 New) = 169 Issues

These 101 behaviours do not appear to have been resolved by the 3.9.0 patch:


[*]TALD materialize at wrong point

When firing lots of missiles i.e. TALD, the missiles all originate from the same point even when the plane moves away.

Ok, this really isn't an issue at all, well not with the game engine anyway. Infact it's doing exactly what's being asked of it and if the "reporter" of the error had looked beyond the surface of the issue he'd have seen the cause informed the DB editor; QED prolem solved.

The reason the TALDs all originate at the same point is that in the ANWDB, the Rate of Fire (RoF) of the TALD WeaponRecord is one (1) second. Therefore the GE launches the entire load of weapons instantaneously. The aircraft moves away as the weapons become visible and what you are seeing appears to be weapons launching, "from thin air". Imagine launching say 12 missiles in a single second, it's going to be difficult to differentiate them all from the missile cluster you're now looking at.

Has this issue been checked with other available databases and confirmed as an issue? If it's an issue related to the particular DB being used then a polite "bug report" to the Editor may very well get the issue "fixed" or at least obtain an explanation for the observed behaviour.

Cheers

Darren Buckley

[Bucks]

ORIGINAL: Taitennek

Yaddaa, Yaddaa, Yaddaa
Oftewel: "Je smoesjes zijn leuk, maar je praatjes deugen niet!"

Or: "Your excuses are fun, but you do not talk right! (tell the truth?)"
Excuse the poor grammar of Google Translate...

Ok no more excuses and no more negativity or name calling. I've come to the realization that some people are never happy with their lot unless complaining or hanging shit on anything that moves.

Taitennek, please re-post your thread from above pertaining to the fixed and "non-fixed/not-confirmed" issues, under the Harpoon 3 ANW Support subforum here:

tm.asp?m=1758280&mpage=1&key=&#1758280

I will endeavour to work through them here on the official Matrix forum as part of the current 3.10 development process. You will however need to keep in mind that if you are at the same time asking for an increase in the speed of bug fixing you will also need to be amenable to accepting that the development team also have a plan to work to and some of these issues if confirmed may still require time to work into the development schedule before being dealth with.

Cheers

Darren Buckley

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Taitennek

Then I would suggest that you invite the author of the list [Herman Hum] to join the discussion on this forum as well, after all, you AGSI/MATRIX guys can't stop telling the audience how things have been improved, and another one comes with other conclusions that there are even more nasty events that occure during game-play, as when Harpoon 3.7 was launched.
The buglist is not Herman's personal ukaze, but a summary of reports of players that faced strange events during gameplay[sometimes very stupide] , or simply face a black screen after the €50,= game crashed again.......

For the outsider it sounds like AGSI/MATRIX is running away for the reality.....



Harpoon ANW inferior to HC[E]. This is what you read on the Harpoon Classic Commanders Edition Forum.
So lads, prove that this is not true. fix the bugs rapidly, instead of talking nonsens

As another customer, I feel it is most reasonable for Matrix to ask that bugs be reported in their forums.

[Bucks]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

As another customer, I feel it is most reasonable for Matrix to ask that bugs be reported in their forums.

Thx witpqs,

It's not just the reporting here in the forums, there's actually a process we have in place to deal with issues that are both reported by the community at large and within the Beta testing group. I won't be able to convince the AGSI ANW dev team to drop everything and make a start fixing the list. To start with we need to confirm that these are really issues that need dealing with or are simply as a result of incorrect database values or even player assumptions.

As I have have stated above, I am happy to attempt to find some time to work through the list as posted above but within the framework of the ANW Support forum. We internally use a bug tracking system during development and it requires users to provide some basic information that we use to identify the basis of the issues. I will endeavour to work through the list one by one and collect the required information for confirmed issues into the bug tracker. I suppose that means I have to register etc at the originating forums, which I'll do over the next day or two.

On another point related to this subject, AGSI has monotonously extended an invitation to those truly wishing to see the game move forward and volunteer to join the testing process. I extend that invitation to anyone interested as we commence work on Harpoon3 ANW v3.10.

I have to say joining the team has been well worth it, and not just personally but in seeing the game starting to move forward. Through my association with the AGSI team, we have the new colour photo collections for the game's platforms, my request for a modification to allow mission timings to be viewed and edited in the scen editor. Even manged to get some of the list from above fixed...

Replenishment at-sea
-Functional

UnRep Functional
-Tanker and ship able to meet for Underway Replenishment.

AAA firing past Max Range
-Guns no longer continue to fire long after targets pass out of range.

Runways can be destroyed
-Runway facilities can no longer be destroyed. Their ability to handle size class aircraft, however is reduced.

VLow altitude button missing
-VLow altitude button no longer missing for helicopters when Speed/Altitude menu called up.

Formation air patrols cancelled by Edit A/C function
-Formation air patrols are no longer cancelled by use of the Edit A/C function on the launching platform or hangar.

Of course I haven't added the bugs the guys who keep the list missed that I might have found...

My point here is that if you cooperate with AGSI in the required fashion, you can actually make a difference. [;)]

Cheers

Darren Buckley

[Bucks]

ORIGINAL: FreekS


Hi all,

I agree its a long list, so my top 10 most critical issues:
 
http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/showpost.php?p=982877&postcount=5

Freek,

I've taken a look at your "Top 10" list. Thanks for prioritising your issues. It certainly makes it easier to deal with your problems in an orderly fashion. I tend to agree with several of your concerns and I intend to make a start on dealing with them immediately as part of the 3.10 development process.

Again thanks for the input Freek it's greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Darren Buckley

[FreekS]

Thanks Bucks,
 
Happy to help in testing. I believe the more people who publish their priority list the better - as everyone understands the limited resources and thus the need to prioritise on the bigger issues.
 
Freek

[FransKoenz]

Darren,

We both know that I am reporting the bugs on behalf of Herman, the author of the huge list. We love to discuss the bugs related problems, but, due to the fact that the reporter has been banned from this forum, it is easily talking about resolving bugs, but there are other reports.

Why not simply allow Herman to place comments on this forum...[&:]

As I said earlier, it is not Herman's personal battle: Not at all: we [customers] expect a decent product for our money.
Herman's list should be a guideline for the AGSI Team in order to improve the value of the game, instead of continiously try to bagatallize the list [I refer to Freek's complaints that more than 1 of his home-made scn have been ruined by new bugs, or bug after bugs].
Witgps......, normally, Herman would answer you directly within this topic, but he is banned from this forum, due to earlier bug reports usw.

AGSI/MATRIX can promise lot of things, but there is a great diffrence between claiming something and guarantee something when talking about bug repairing; Herman does not have the answers, but could be a great help in solving game problems. That we have to discuss the bugs on another forum is not our fault. It is AGSI/MATRIX that runs away for some real game discussions, by banning people because they ask the questions and dare to critisize the so called improvements.

Cheers,
Frans.

[FreekS]

KLAB

Would any of the above issues explain why after two days of trying I have yet to succesfully drop any type of bomb wether LGB/KAB or dumb from any type of aircraft at any combination of speed or altitude despite checking that all launch parameters were compliant? The menus allow me to assign bombs to drop but nothing them happens? JDAMS are the only bomb weapons that appear to work? This applies to all the DB's I have tried including the standard one that comes with the game?

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=1759202

Every single database currently in existence is unable to have bombs drop from planes.

Luckily, the PlayersDB group has already found and implemented a work-around solution so that players can continue to enjoy Harpoon uninterrupted.

Harpoon ANW users can get the:
Complete Harpoon ANW Library





FilesOfScenShare

[Bucks]

ORIGINAL: Taitennek

Darren,

We both know that I am reporting the bugs on behalf of Herman, the author of the huge list. We love to discuss the bugs related problems, but, due to the fact that the reporter has been banned from this forum, it is easily talking about resolving bugs, but there are other reports.

Why not simply allow Herman to place comments on this forum...[&:]

Frans,

Yes we both know you're just the messenger and I was always taught not to shoot him. It's not up to me to allow Herman to return here and so I know there's a section of the community that would like to see that; it's simply not in my power to grant that wish.

Herman has informed me he'd like to see the list dealt with on some of the other forums where it exists/originates and he can freely post. I understand his desire for that but I have an issue myself. Matrix is the home of the official Harpoon 3 ANW forum. AGSI and Matrix have a business relationship and one can understand that AGSI would only entertain discussion of the game "officially" here.

I'm part of the Beta Team and therefore I can if I wish (the why behind this is still to reveal itself to me) attempt to deal with Herman and a section of the community's issues here. I have the full support of AGSI's ANW Producer, Russell Sharp in dealing with the "List" here at the Matrix ANW Support Forum. So using my Beta Tester position and the ability to enter bugs so they are fixed and not just part of a list, I've decided to make a start on it here at Matrix.

I'm not responsible for the position Herman finds himself in here. I am however, prepared to deal with these issues and attempt to find a solution to the problem the list presents to the game's development and success.

As I said earlier, it is not Herman's personal battle: Not at all: we [customers] expect a decent product for our money.

Herman's list should be a guideline for the AGSI Team in order to improve the value of the game, instead of continiously try to bagatallize the list [I refer to Freek's complaints that more than 1 of his home-made scn have been ruined by new bugs, or bug after bugs].

No, it's not Herman's personal battle. Here's some stats to defend the AGSI Team against the "officially untested, List". I managed to report 72 issues prior to this release. All except two have been assigned and or resolved by the time 3.9 hit the "streets". If I'm prepared to take on the responsibility of attempting to maintain my "batting average" and attack the "List" I really just need some time and a little cooperation from everybody. If the only way this list of issues will ever be dealt with properly is here at Matrix, so be it.

I am sorry about the issues Freek has had with his scens. I have been working with him on converting a scen to HUD3 specs, that he originally designed using the PDB. We have both had to look at the effect of using two Databases that have differing values cause to basic scenario design. Take it from me I know all about this and I'm still learning to be truthful. I volunteered to attempt to convert the original Harpoon2 scenario set to use the HUD3 as the default DB rather than the ODB. Many of the 72 issues I mentioned above have been discovered while undertaking this project. Many of the original ODB scens are in need of modification so they will work effectively with H3ANW 3.9. They needed work with versions prior to 3.9 so it's not new. This is part of the basic development process the game is undergoing at present.

I know I use this alot as an example, but even though I may love one of the 1000's of maps available for Counter Strike 1.6, I can't play it in CS Source unless I convert the map to use the Source engine. We're simply looking at the same development process for Harpoon3 and sometimes it's painful. I've lost weeks of work tying my own DB and scen projects to the Beta effort. Did I get the s*&ts about it? Yes, but why throw the whole thing in just because we took a step backward to eventually move a mile forward?

AGSI/MATRIX can promise lot of things, but there is a great diffrence between claiming something and guarantee something when talking about bug repairing; Herman does not have the answers, but could be a great help in solving game problems. That we have to discuss the bugs on another forum is not our fault. It is AGSI/MATRIX that runs away for some real game discussions, by banning people because they ask the questions and dare to critisize the so called improvements.

Cheers,
Frans.

I'm not speaking for AGSI here, as stated elsewhere I am not an employee of AGSI, just part of the effort to help improve the game. I spent several weeks working on making sure the claim about replenishment was 100% correct. I built and tested scens so now we can all build a fortnight long campaign game if you can manage the logistics and the DB you're using allows for it. [:)] Why was this possible? I think because I decided that I'd work with the AGSI guys to make this game work. I'm even up for complaints, that's how we'll find the issues. I've even found out about the guys involved, I have the upmost respect for Russell Sharp and Darrel Dearing's efforts in terms of what they are attempting to achieve here. This isn't an overnight plan the game will evolve if we help it along.

People need to understand that this is an effort by a really small team of dedicated people. I mean the hardcore is a number your fingers can easily manage without the assistance of toes, when it comes to counting them. I have lots of issues with the game because I first played the minis version for years. I know the minis allows getter flexibility but that's because we have the advantage of using the human version of the PC, our brains... Why was I able to flood the Kirov's defences with TASMs in a minis game? I could plot the dogleg courses for each turn's fire so they all arive at once using the missile's waypoint capability. DB editors will know there's a waypoints DB value but everybody try to image how you're going to work it into a real time game, in terms of game engine code? Would I like to see it added? Yes. Will I make it into a personal "crusade"? No.

My personal belief is that the Harpoon community needs to work together and keep the game alive. I'm up for it and if people want to report issues, lets see what we can get fixed.

Cheers

Darren Buckley