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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/31/43

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30


Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 71
B-26B Marauder x 90


Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
141 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 55

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on Tenimbar , at 36,81 [8D]

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 118

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 18 destroyed, 58 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 3 destroyed, 31 damaged


Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 16000 feet

Hortlund was totally upset about this attack. It wasn´t that he forgot to stand down his bombers that pissed him off, it was the result! He thinks that it is completely ridicoulos that Allied fighters can take down Japanese bombers in droves! IN DROVES?? [X(][&:]

Well, 57 Kittyhawks shot down 13!! Helens over Tenimbar another 6 were lost A2A but must have crashed on the way home or during landing and 5 were claimed lost to flak. Hmm, IMO this result is pretty near reality and is something I would expect in real life. 57 fighters claim 13 out of 118 medium bombers being shot down over the target. Not too much, not too few IMO. After sending this turn, he told me that no more turns would arrive for a while as Nikmod really pisses him off as in his oppinion cripples the Japanese completely, making Allied bombers super immune to Japanese fighters, while Allied fighters can take down Japanese bombers just like in stock! [X(]

One day after this battle happened I can say now that Japanese bombers are also at least 4 times as hard to down as in stock, there are not just leakers, but 90% of strikes of 100+ bombers are getting through Cap of 60 fighters. For me, IJN bombers vs Allied fighters is working excellent in Nikmod. Japanese fighters have 0 problem to take down Allied fighters at all, but are helpless against Allied medium bombers, not to talk about 4E bombers, as those seem to be nearly immune to everything (but are damaged all the time and available in very low numbers concerning replacement rates). I agree 100% with Hortlund that kill rates of Japanese fighters against Allied bombers are too low. IMO they should be doubled but that´s it then. What Hortlund seems not to accept is the fact that Allied fighters had far more fire power than the Japanese fighters and that Allied bombers could take far more damage than Japanese bombers. So weaker Japanese fighters and stronger Allied bombers just have to result in lower Allied bomber losses when they encounter Japanese fighters compared to Japanese losses when Japanese bombers encounter Allied fighters. This is realistic. What is a problem is really the fact that lets say 80 Zeroes only take 10 out of 200 Mitchells down, which seems to low for me, but perhaps someone can correct me.

While I have some problems with the mod too (probably far less thans with stock though) I think it´s like Nik said: the overall picture looks good, so again thanks for the work he puts into creating the mod!



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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 63


No Allied losses

Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 8th Tank Regiment, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 67
Kittyhawk I x 14
Beaufighter VIC x 10


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

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The day when the Corsair enters production! This is the good news!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/01/43

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TF 1030 troops unloading over beach at Dutch Harbor, 103,36 [:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]



Allied ground losses:
1955 casualties reported

last time I landed a RCT (that was 40% prepped) here it got 95% disabled from just the landing. There was a lot of Bullshit explanation about pip and pap blah blah abstracted small gun fire and so on. Last time not a single shot showed up in the replay so all this blah blah of small arms fire was just a joke IMO as this "small arms fire" that doesn´t show up in the report disabled 95% of my RCT, even though all that Hortlund had at this base were 2500 completely crappy troops that were bombed by air and naval bombardments for months without a break. The RCT was wrecked!

Now, months later, I sent the next RCT (100% prepped now) against this base that was bombed a couple of months more with a single, completely disabled mini naval guard unit left (recon shows 1000 troops). This unit is so wrecked, my SBDs on ground attack stopped causing casualties a week ago, so this unit is just like a ghost!

Well, my 100% prepped RCT lands and gets 73% disabled and 2% are dead! Nearly all heavy weapons are disabled as well as the support squads. We have a whopping 29 assault points left! Sorry, but there´s nothing that could justify such a result AGAIN! It´s just BS to see troops landing without opposition (don´t come up with this small arms fire - that´s a joke and not abstracted in the game as the enemy unit has nothing left to shot at my troops) being completely wrecked. And I have seen this same BS often enough while landing at empty bases also - and Dutch Harbour is nowhere different to an empty base. Use the development of AE to look at some major flaws in the engine. Now or never. I fear never... [8|]


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Just look at the disruption! The landing was just "perfect" when looking at the disruption, still the RCT isn´t existing as combat unit anymore...

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TF 1030 troops unloading over beach at Dutch Harbor, 103,36



Allied ground losses:
476 casualties reported [8|][8|][8|][8|]

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 63


No Allied losses

Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 13th AA Regiment, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 69
Kittyhawk I x 14
Beaufighter VIC x 10


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 50


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

This is the completely wrecked Naval Guard Unit on Dutch Harbour. No casualties are caused anymore...

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Day Air attack on 8th Tank Regiment, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 64
P-40E Warhawk x 21


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet


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I wonder if the date has anything to do with this. I mean, it is Feb 43 in the Aleutions. Weather up there is absolutly horrible in the winter.
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ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

I wonder if the date has anything to do with this. I mean, it is Feb 43 in the Aleutions. Weather up there is absolutly horrible in the winter.


I have no idea. That´s the first explanation I hear that sounds really reasonable. Now the question is, does weather influence invasions (of course it does in real life, but does it also in WITP?). In real life an invasion at this date wouldn´t be possible, would it? I have never heard of it nor read. This would be a new dimension then if thunderstorms or winter in Alaska influence invasions. That would be so important that it would be an unbelievable oversight to not mention it in the manual.
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Well, actually this issue IS mentioned in manual [;)] During the winter in northern area the casualties are trippled..
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ORIGINAL: jumper

Well, actually this issue IS mentioned in manual [;)] During the winter in northern area the casualties are trippled..


Yes, like jumper says, I was wrong in thinking after years of playing I would know the rules of the game. I stand corrected, here´s the reason for the high casualties and I´m just a dork who wrecked two RCTs in two different invasions in winter:


Cold Zones during the winter impact
ground units the same way as Malaria Zones (above), with the following added penalties:...

o Ground units unloading at an enemy base/beach or into a non-base hex
with an enemy unit will suffer roughly three times the losses they would
normally suffer
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Nah, not a dork. I have played since first release, and still do not know all the rules of this game. Plus you get really used to be able to invade anywhere and anytime on every other part of the map. I have been lucky in all my games to not have to fight up north. So this same rule probably would have bit me too.
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About the "bomber versus fighter" theme
 
jep, i think the nikmod has a problem.
 
cause the huge numbers of allied 2/4-engine-bombers, the japanese is not only helpless but can´t do anything against.
If (big if) the japanese player is able to mount 300-400 fighters, a 200-bomber-attack is doomed. Point. No way they will survive. cause they do not the box-defence but pairs flying in. So a lot fighters against few bombers. If the japanese fighters are as fast as the bombers and have exp.75+ the allies should loose (if not turn) 50-80% of its attack.
But with nikmod it is under best conditions maybe 5-10%. To remember, in the best case.
If the odds went bad for the japanese player, he can´t do anything against unescorted med/heavy-bombers that destroy anything the japanese try to do.

So the only chance for an ongoing game is a house rule for med/heavy attacks.
e.g. say only with escorts, never more groups as the base-air-level (+1 for <4 Bases), etc... so the numbers of attacking bombers stay in an accectable range and a heavy defence could knock out such attacks
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Normally i am against such rules, but with nickmod the alternate is to drop or (as the japanese) do also everything beyond any hr.
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Actually I know this rule, because some time ago I have landed&nbsp;the Americal division on unguared Omnetokan Jima, got 70% disablements and wondered why. I was really surprised to find the answer in the manual.. [;)]
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ORIGINAL: jumper

Actually I know this rule, because some time ago I have landed the Americal division on unguared Omnetokan Jima, got 70% disablements and wondered why. I was really surprised to find the answer in the manual.. [;)]

I think your men just hated you after you ordered them to land through freezing water and ice slosh during the winter... [:'(]
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ORIGINAL: Adnan Meshuggi

About the "bomber versus fighter" theme

jep, i think the nikmod has a problem.

cause the huge numbers of allied 2/4-engine-bombers, the japanese is not only helpless but can´t do anything against.
If (big if) the japanese player is able to mount 300-400 fighters, a 200-bomber-attack is doomed. Point. No way they will survive. cause they do not the box-defence but pairs flying in. So a lot fighters against few bombers. If the japanese fighters are as fast as the bombers and have exp.75+ the allies should loose (if not turn) 50-80% of its attack.
But with nikmod it is under best conditions maybe 5-10%. To remember, in the best case.
If the odds went bad for the japanese player, he can´t do anything against unescorted med/heavy-bombers that destroy anything the japanese try to do.

So the only chance for an ongoing game is a house rule for med/heavy attacks.
e.g. say only with escorts, never more groups as the base-air-level (+1 for <4 Bases), etc... so the numbers of attacking bombers stay in an accectable range and a heavy defence could knock out such attacks

Normally i am against such rules, but with nickmod the alternate is to drop or (as the japanese) do also everything beyond any hr.


Only escorted raids is nearly impossible due to the lack of Allied fighter range and it wouldn´t help because even though the escorts would die, there would be even more bombers. And honestly the Japanese bombers (while being more fragile than the Allied bombers) are also getting through high numbers of Cap in really high numbers.

We have a stacking rule of 50 aircraft / airfield size and with the super flak it would be even nearer to impossible than it already is to do real damage, means closing an airfield constantly. Yes, the bombers are nearly immune but you have one or two attacks and 80% of the bombers are inoperational, so in fact it is harder for the Allied to close bases, which means it makes live harder in general. Saying that from a standpoint where I have a Nikmod game going as the Japanese against Swift and one as the Allied against Hortlund.

While Hortlund thinks that Nikmod has crippled the Japanese side, I can say it as a player that plays both sides, the Japanese are far stronger in the long term than in stock. Far stronger. Why? Because they will never face an Uber Cap! Uber Cap isn´t existing in Nikmod. Strikes of 100 aircraft won´t be completely shot down even if there are a lot of fighters on Cap. Even increasing this "problem" for me as the Allied with our stacking limits (which also go for CV based aircraft - 550 max/hex).
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ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

Nah, not a dork. I have played since first release, and still do not know all the rules of this game. Plus you get really used to be able to invade anywhere and anytime on every other part of the map. I have been lucky in all my games to not have to fight up north. So this same rule probably would have bit me too.


It´s really amazing. I guess I´ve read the manual a couple of times in all those years and have played a couple of thousand PBEM turns but this rule was something I have never thought of. But it was a real good hint of you! [:D]

And I´m impressed about this sense of realism!
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ORIGINAL: jumper

Actually I know this rule, because some time ago I have landed the Americal division on unguared Omnetokan Jima, got 70% disablements and wondered why. I was really surprised to find the answer in the manual.. [;)]


and noone told me after my first invasion that wrecked 95% of the first RCT? [X(][;)]
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I thought it was a small arms fire.. [:D]
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But seriously I didn´t follow your AAR in those days. I was reading PjHs side but had to stop when he started an AAR of the game against me and I was sure It would be just matter of time when I would click on the wrong one. And so I joined yours instead.. [;)]
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I just found out the hard way that the Jacks do well against Allied 4e bombers. [:(][X(]
The Corsairs are very nice. However, with their high durability rating in Nik Mod, about 1/3 to 1/2 will always be damaged after constant CAP (I usually run them at 60 or 70%). Only after prolonged stand down will I get close to 100% availability.
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I just found out the hard way that the Jacks do well against Allied 4e bombers. [:(][X(]
The Corsairs are very nice. However, with their high durability rating in Nik Mod, about 1/3 to 1/2 will always be damaged after constant CAP (I usually run them at 60 or 70%). Only after prolonged stand down will I get close to 100% availability.


Jacks won´t be available until early 44! [:D]

I´m experiencing the same problem with fighters flying cap and get damaged, mostly my Wildcats on the CVs. Can´t set them to more than 70% Cap, even if I wished to fly 90%. It´s not that severe than in previous versions of Nikmod but still I regularly see CV fighter sqadrons having 25%+ of their aircraft damaged just from flying Cap. Could be a problem for my TFs when I think on the high number of enemy bombers that get through Cap without much of a problem. Only low morale of the attacker can save you, if the enemy bombers turn back.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/02/43

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TF 1030 troops unloading over beach at Dutch Harbor, 103,36



Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported

The rest of the RCT is unloading...

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30


Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 71
B-26B Marauder x 111


Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
175 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 56

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet

Mandalay seems to have very few engineers as the damage is repaired very, very slowly... That´s good, the only level 6 airfield is out of order for a long time after my attacks.

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 154
Liberator VI x 23


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 55

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet

even though we lose nearly half a dozen bombers with every of those attacks, considering the flak fire, this is a milk run... though I still have to use my bombers at max altitude...

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 208


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 56

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 63


No Allied losses

Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 40


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 33rd/B Division, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 128
Kittyhawk I x 14
Beaufighter VIC x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 21


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
136 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

The 4 units on the trail towards Imphal are now moving back to Mandalay it seems as one is on the rail again... guess Hortlund didn´t like the constant air attacks, I don´t understand anyway why he sends a rgt, a tank bgd, a mortar btn and an AA rgt towards Imphal...

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Day Air attack on TF at 28,83 [:(]

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK John Hart, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

I´ve sent a lonely AK from Broome to Darwin to have a freighter there that could pick up the radar of two base forces at Darwin to be sent to Tenimbar (base North of Darwin) but the freighter is immediately spotted AND attacked of course... the first three Betties put 3 torps into the ship and then the rest wasn´t able to locate it anymore...

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Sub attack at 24,61

Japanese Ships
DD Asanagi
PC Kunashiri
PC Hachijo
APD APD-39

Allied Ships
SS Snapper, hits 3

This is the rest of the available "super ASW vessels" the IJN can field. The two PCs and the APD are the only IJN ships at the moment that have a higher ASW value than 4. In a couple of months the IJN will start receiving more PCs with an ASW value of 6 and higher.

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Ground combat at Dutch Harbor

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1338 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 33

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Now I know why my SBDs don´t cause anymore casualties when they are set to ground attack. The nav guard unit isn´t existing anymore... but can still be bombed...[&:]
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We have now two Corsair squadrons in Australia waiting to get operational. In 10 days we will have another one. Without combat we would be able to upgrade 3 Marine squadrons every month, but I guess I will use them for the first time when I have 72 operational. With exp levels around or below 60 I´m not really confident that they can achieve much against the high exp Zeroes...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/03/43

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 63


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 48
TBF Avenger x 32
Wellington III x 48
PV-1 Ventura x 22


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
177 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 27
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
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Day Air attack on Shuzan Naval Guard Unit, at 103,36


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 50


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 5th Mortar Battalion, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 129
Kittyhawk I x 14
Beaufighter VIC x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 20


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Dutch Harbor

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1441 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 33

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied max assault: 29 - adjusted assault: 28

Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 28 to 1 (fort level 6)

Allied forces CAPTURE Dutch Harbor base !!!


We take the base against something like a ghost unit. I don´t understand why this unit didn´t just vanish if it´s not existing anymore. It should have vanished and the base would have autoconverted, this would have saved our RCT from being wrecked from the invasion in the winter months...

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Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Dutch Harbor

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This is an ouch turn!


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/04/43

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Sub attack at 23,59

Japanese Ships
AK Turuga Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.21

Allied Ships
SS Pickerel, hits 1

it starts off well though, West of Borneo was a big AK hit by a MK14 torp. The single escort tactic seem to have passed it´s peak of success and more and more often my subs score. One near miss on Pickerel and the sub will return to Darwin after being on station for a couple of weeks.

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Day Air attack on Amboina , at 39,73

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 18
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 26
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 26
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 101
B-24D Liberator x 92

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 3 destroyed, 21 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 13 damaged
Ki-57-II Topsy: 2 destroyed
Ki-49 Helen: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 4 destroyed, 93 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 4 destroyed, 51 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet


that´s the reason why I said it´s an ouch turn. The enemy sent his Helens earlier from Amboina to bomb Tenimbar and we still saw a fat, dark airfield symbol so I thought that there will still be a lot of bombers and probably no Cap as I guessed he thinks that my 4Es are around Cairns and not at Darwin. I didn´t fly any recon before as I wanted to do a surprise attack. Well, as you can see, the surprise was on my side, meeting 83 enemy fighters on Cap. [:(] Even though Hortlund will think that he did no damage, I can say that this is again what I call something like a disaster as we lost a monthly replacement of B17s and nearly another dozen of B-24s. Total bomber losses here today: 26! Seems low but my BGs are completely wrecked, 70% of the B-17s turned back due to low morale, the B-24s pressed through and after being attacked by the fighters, the undamaged rest was shot up by flak. All my BGs have no a morale around 20 and only 20% of the bombers are operational. They have to be withdrawn South to be built up again. Hortlund lost 30 aircraft today but I guess he doesn´t know that this was a Japanese victory. And the weeks pass...

Without the 200 4Es I can´t even think about an invasion as Hortlund now again focusses on a couple of bases that he Caps with 200 fighters and as those bases can´t be closed (not even attacked), an invasion around those strongholds would (and will be) absolutely bloody because after one day my CV Cap will be completely worn down.



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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 5
B-25C Mitchell x 239


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 72

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on 13th AA Regiment, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 66
Kittyhawk I x 14
Beaufighter VIC x 10


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 5th Mortar Battalion, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 62
P-40E Warhawk x 23


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Sub attack near Lautem at 33,78

Japanese Ships
DD Hayate
DD Yuzuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Asagiri

Allied Ships
SS S-34, hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

There are still two IJN BBs sitting at Lautern (under a Cap of 150+ fighters) and my subs had no chance so far. S-34 missed Hayate with 4 torps and is sunk immediately in return.
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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/05/43

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Day Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28


Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 4
B-26B Marauder x 68


Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 destroyed
B-26B Marauder: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 21000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 47
TBF Avenger x 32
Wellington III x 57
PV-1 Ventura x 21


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
259 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 39
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on 5th Mortar Battalion, at 34,27


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 116
Kittyhawk I x 16
Beaufighter VIC x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 24


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Hikosan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Sinkoku Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet

Hortlund moved a supply convoy and a SC TF as cover to Thursday Island. We launch a small strike but achieve an excelletn hit rate as those small and big AKs are hit with 5x500 lb bombs

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Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 71


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CL Naka
CA Ashigara
CA Suzuya

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet

and we launch a big strike against the SC TF and achieve a really bad hit rate...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Sinkoku Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AK Hikosan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Houn Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 10000 feet

another 500lb bomb hit. At least two AKs lost their supplies which were scheduled for Thursday Island.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 54


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet

130 Mitchells attacked this TF at 6000ft today, achieving 3 bomb hits. That´s the might of the Allied bomber force. Hortlund has parked several BB/CA TFs for months in range of my bombers in Timor and New Guinea and don´t even has to fly Cap to cover them as they are immune to bomber attacks. Another example how crippled the Japanese are in Nikmod or WITP in general. Hortlund is doing something that would have been impossible in real life.

Just imagine I would place a couple of BBs/CAs without Cap in range of 200 Betties... [8|]


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Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Sub attack at 24,61

Japanese Ships
AK Tokyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.21

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

at least a sub hits another big AK from the same TF that lost an AK already yesterday...
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