Forlorn Hopes: The Japanese Respond

[John 3rd]

Thank you Rominet and welcome to the AAR.
 
I will make an inspection of all my Fuel/Resource Centers and see where they are at.  Checked Palembang a few turns ago and saw that there were still about 245 damaged supply points.  Will check around and see the status of my other Ports...
 
Never have thought of the difference between Resource and Oil production like you describe.  It is a compelling argument.
 

[Big B]

ORIGINAL: John 3rd
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On May 11th, my Surface TF arrived at Laysen to cause trouble and encountered those USELESS PT-Boats that all Allied Players love. Darned things are more effective in this game then they EVER were in real life. OK--I am whining! [>:][>:][>:]

My STF was 2 CA, 2 CL, and 5 DD versus two groups of 6 PT:
Round 1: In the first fight, my TF sank 2 PT and damaged a 3rd while two DDs each took 1 TT.
Round 2: I get surprise but only sink 1 PT in exchange for losing DD Oyashio. I had to scuttle DD Akigumo the next turn. Grrr...

I know no Japanese player likes PT's - but don't feel too bad John, as compared to history you are doing ok with them, consider -

PT BOAT LOSSES IN WWII
Out of 531 PTs placed in US Navy service, 69 were lost: 5 - destroyed by enemy surface ship gunfire; 1 - rammed by enemy ship; 1 - rammed enemy ship; 1 - enemy aircraft strafing; 4 - enemy bombings; 2 - kamikaze attacks; 5 - enemy shore batteries; 4 - enemy mines; 1 - damaged by enemy fire then destroyed; 2 - lost in transit, tanker torpedoed by enemy. Total: 26 lost by enemy action.

Additional losses: 18 - grounded in enemy waters and destroyed to prevent capture; 3 - destroyed to prevent capture; 3 - destroyed by US aircraft; 2 - destroyed by Australian aircraft; 2 - destroyed by US ships; 1 - destroyed by enemy shore fire or wild shot from US warship; 5 - grounded/destroyed outside enemy waters or in storms; 6 - fire or explosion in port; 3 - collisions. Total: 43 lost by accidents, friendly fire or sea conditions.

Above figures do not include fates of Lend-Lease boats.

http://www.ptboats.org/20-12-05-trivia- ... anchor12-9

For that total, PT's sank four DD's and torpedoed a CL (dud, in the PI in 1942)...as best as I can remember reading. So it seems that they torpedoed or sunk a Japanese warship for about the same number as got sunk by Japanese warships during the war...although both totals were small.

B

[ny59giants]

I'll keep my PT boats until I don't have to face the Japanese BB/CA TF that can come in and bombardment my base and be 5 hexes away for the next air phase and thus beyond any Allied TB range. [8|]
 
At least in RHS the Allies get the Beauforts with torpedo carrying range over 6 along with a few special B-25s. [:D]
However, the damn Betty's can carry out to 19 hexes. [X(][:@][X(]

[rominet]

ORIGINAL: Big B


I know no Japanese player likes PT's - but don't feel too bad John, as compared to history you are doing ok with them, consider -

PT BOAT LOSSES IN WWII
Out of 531 PTs placed in US Navy service, 69 were lost: 5 - destroyed by enemy surface ship gunfire; 1 - rammed by enemy ship; 1 - rammed enemy ship; 1 - enemy aircraft strafing; 4 - enemy bombings; 2 - kamikaze attacks; 5 - enemy shore batteries; 4 - enemy mines; 1 - damaged by enemy fire then destroyed; 2 - lost in transit, tanker torpedoed by enemy. Total: 26 lost by enemy action.

Additional losses: 18 - grounded in enemy waters and destroyed to prevent capture; 3 - destroyed to prevent capture; 3 - destroyed by US aircraft; 2 - destroyed by Australian aircraft; 2 - destroyed by US ships; 1 - destroyed by enemy shore fire or wild shot from US warship; 5 - grounded/destroyed outside enemy waters or in storms; 6 - fire or explosion in port; 3 - collisions. Total: 43 lost by accidents, friendly fire or sea conditions.

Above figures do not include fates of Lend-Lease boats.

http://www.ptboats.org/20-12-05-trivia- ... anchor12-9

For that total, PT's sank four DD's and torpedoed a CL (dud, in the PI in 1942)...as best as I can remember reading. So it seems that they torpedoed or sunk a Japanese warship for about the same number as got sunk by Japanese warships during the war...although both totals were small.

B

Hum, 4 DD and 1 CL sunk during all the war due to PT boats???
it seems these are the japanese losses for only one engagement against a dozen of PT boats in WitP[:-] without exagerate a lot.

[John 3rd]

Dan is in Atlanta for most of the day and now that the boys are sleeping, I intend to update the AAR.

On the subject of resources and oil, I went around the various ports/facilities and found that everything is operating at full strength execpt Palembang and Balikpapan.  The smaller facilities are good but take a look at this:

Palembang
Resources  655 of 900 Operational
Oil  297 of 600 Operational

Balikpapan
Resources  297 of 600 Operational
Oil  88 of 300 Operational

I don't remember those bases being so badly damaged but here we are in April 1943.

I've decided to take off NO resources at these bases and let them repair at a faster rate.  Additionally, I will shut off the Resource repair and emphasize Oil.

[John 3rd]

Burma Counter-Offensive
Planning Questions



I need the various and most talented WitP strategists to provide me some imput on my upcoming Burmese assault.

Option 1--River Assault

There are 3,200 Assault Points of Japanese Troops in Moulmein right now with nearly 60,000 supply backing them up. The thought is to Shock Attack across the river to the NW and hit Dan's units sitting there. There are 19 units of Chinese/Indian type sitting in that hex.

Dan has instituted a CAP of about 18 P-38 over this hex. I can easily sweep it away but it is obvious that he knows what I am thinking.


Option 2--Breakout

Move most of the troops at Moulmein and add them to the 2,500 AP in Rangoon. This would raise my AP to nearly 5,500. Dan's seige is currently being conducted by 5,200 AS worth of strength. There are 2 Brit Inf Div, some tanks, and a lot of Indian/Chinese infantry.

While being 1-1 in totals, I do have complete aerial supremacy here as well as control of the sea. I could Bombard the hex and hit it with 250 bombers every day in conjunction with an attack.

These are the two choices.

He is at the end of a long supply tether and one would think that they might be rather short.

Need some thoughts and options people! What do you think?

I am including the current turn's screenshot.

[Jzanes]

I'd say, move everything to Rangoon and try to breakout.  Then send most of your force up the Rangoon-Magwe road and force him to withdraw or be flanked.  Send just enough troops into the hex east of Rangoon to keep him pinned (3-4 divisions maybe?)  I don't think you'll be able to push him out of the jungle hex east of Rangoon.

[John 3rd]

Good Ideas!
 
More please???
 

[John 3rd]

China Planning
May 1943



Dan choose to make China an active Theatre and I intend to make him pay for that. I am one month from massive reinforcements within this area and plan to put them to good use.



Yenan Attack
I am planning to attack this city as a diversion to draw Dan's eyes northward while I prepare for the real assault to the south. Since he only has 5 units there, there might a real possiblity that an army of 1,500 Assault Points COULD take the city.

Hanoi Diversion
As Yenan calms down, I will move the 4 Inf Div and support units out from Hanoi's Forts and try to draw Dan out of his city. If possible, I want to provoke him so I can get those Vietminh Divisions for reinforcements.

Wuchow Assault
The hammer will fall here in a massive manner. I foresee nearly 500,000 troops particpating in the attack. It shoud be awesome to see!

The goal is to keep Dan from withdrawing more troops from China and placing them in Burma as well as take some real Chinese objectives. If I can take Wuchow then I want to move on the rest of the southern Chinese cities to keep his B-25s from hitting my convoys moving between the Home Islands and DEI.

Here is the current screenshot:

[Big B]

What I posted on CR's AAR - just so you know I'm not playing favorites or giving info or tips...

ORIGINAL:  Big B

I'll be damned if this isn't one of the most unusual and interesting AAR's (I mean games) that I have ever seen.[X(][:D]

[John 3rd]

Brian,
Always good to hear from you.  Do you have any ideas regaridng my Burma and China attacks coming up?  ANY advice will help.
J
 

[Big B]

Hi John,

Well, yeah I do - BUT - I couldn't say a word without compromising CR...which we all know is out of the question (and I know you would absolutely NOT want).

So, that makes it kind of tough being a neutral...I really don't know what I could say that you don't already know without crossing the line and being a spy![:D]

However- with enough money...NO! What was I thinking! (just leave the unmarked envelope in the usual spot [:D])

Good luck John,[;)]

B

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Brian,
Always good to hear from you. Do you have any ideas regaridng my Burma and China attacks coming up? ANY advice will help.
J

[John 3rd]

I understand your issues with providing advice!
 
Since I had most of the day to study the map and look at the situation, I have come to several conclusions regarding my current situation:
 
1.  Naval Strategy  The fuel crisis precludes me doing anything bold right now.  I am going to sit the majority of the Fleet at Kwajelein for the next 4-6 weeks.  The KB is actively made up of 9 CV right now:  7 CV and 2 CVL.  For at least a few more months this should be enough strength to be able to make a good fight against anything Dan might throw my way in the Central Pacific.
 
The only areas for active naval operations will the the eastern edge of the map and Indian Ocean:
 
A.  Eastern Board:  My CVEs are moving from Noumea to Suva and then to Canton.  They will then go commerce raiding and try to hit stuff coming from Panama and/or the West Coast.  Doing this will allow me to have SOMETHING happening and--perhaps--I will get lucky and catch something.  On the downward side, if I lose them then it isn't a terrible crisis...
 
B.  Indian Ocean:  My STF made up of Mutsu/Nagato, 1 CL, and 10 DD keep pounding Rangoon every day.  I am moving a few CVs into the Theatre to see if they can been seen and divert Dan's attention.  I know he saw the "Is This an Insane Idea for April 1943" Thread I ran a bit ago and if my CVs got spotted then it might make him think I am going to invade India or somewhere else.  They serve as a decoy to be seen and then will return to Kwajelein--thus raising the CV Force there to 9 CV and 4 CVL.
 
2.  Australia  Dan is showing next to no interest in doing ANYTHING to press me in Australia.  This has led to accelerate my withdrawal of support and combat units.  I plan to leave only enough troops to make a fight of Australia but not hurt my defensive chances in other areas of the Pacific.  With this in mind, I ordered two Inf Div and 3 Tk Regiments to move out to either Brisbane or Perth for embarkation to the Inner Perimeter.  I will place one Inf Div at Marcus and another at Saipan.  The Tank Regiments all go to Manila.  If Dan doesn't attack out of Melbourne or Sydney at that point then I will pull another pair of Inf Div to further strengthen the Marianas and Luzon.
 
3.  Allied SS  The Allied SS are truly becoming a pain in the butt!  My more advanced ASW ships are starting to near completion and I am accelerating a number of them so I can form more ASW TF.  Right now I have most convoys operating with a few escorts and valuable convoys operating with enough escort for my ASW to be at least 30+.  I regularly damage Allied subs but have only been sinking about one/month.
 
4.  Outer Perimeter  I am moving odds and ends around from one base to another.  As said earlier in the AAR, I have been picking up my Engineering Reg and Construction Btns from the outer areas and am moving them to the Marcus--Marianas--Paula--Philippine arc.
 
5.  Dan's Intentions  I think Dan will begin his next move in the Central Pacific somewhere in late-June to early-July.  This should provide me with enough time to get reset and ready for it.  Where will he attack?  Logical choices remain Midway and Papaete.  Since those ARE logical, I will assume he won't hit there.  Process of elimination:
 
a.  The DEI is safe as long as we struggle in Burma and I hold Northern Australia
b.  New Caledonia and Port Moresby become threatened whenever he begins to retake Australia.  Have reinforced both locations.
c.  Canton and Baker remain viable threats but I can concentrate forces there pretty fast and the KB can move down within days.
d.  North Pacific has been quiet for months.  I will not reinforce it more then it already is so if he attacks there then I will have to think about that.
e.  North Central Pacific  Midway--Wake--Marcus is a prefered route of Allied attack for me and I am moving units to strengthen these points.
 
In reviewing the choices before Dan, I would look at either B or E for my coutnerattack.  Hmm...

[John 3rd]

Rangoon, Burma
May 18, 1943

The morning dawns bright and clear over the airstrips of Rangoon.  There isn't a cloud is sight and many of the Japanese pilots comment that it is 'fighter weather.'  Little do they suspect of the storm that is about the sweep down upon them from numerous Allied airdromes to the north of their base. 

These 252 pilots have been on the frontline for the majority of the war.  They have owned the skies over Rangoon ever since the the seige began over 2 months ago.  These pilots are good and they KNOW it.  Enlike other locations, there has been a great amount of good natured rivalry between the 4 Sentai of Tony pilots and the 4 Daitai of Zero pilots.  There has been considerable betting between the lower-ranked pilots on who would lead in confirmed enemy kills.  On this crystal clear morning the current leaders in kills are:

For the Army:
Major Igarashi with 9 kills from the 29th Sentai
Major Kanei with 7 kills also from the 29th
WO Kagawa with 7 kills from the 59th

For the Navy:
PO2 Nagahama has 10 kills from the F1--Yamata Daitai
PO2 Hirano also has 10 kill from the F1--3rd Daitai

Thus the Navy has the current lead. 

It is known that a massive convoy has brought the reinforcements needed to expel the British, Indians, and Chinese that infest the capital city of Burma.  The pilots can see into the harbor over 80 ships busily unloading their troops and 50,000 supply.  The moment of the Japanese counterstroke is but days away.

This knowledge prompts the HQ of the local Navy Air Flotilla and Army Air Division to call for a maximum effort day of putting as many fighters as possible over the harbor and airfields.  As the engines are warmed up and the pilots lift off one-by-one anyone coutning will see 188 planes take to the Combat Air Patrol.  The newer and stronger Army Tony's move to 29,000 Ft and 25,000 Ft while the Zero--wanting better maneuver abilities--settle in at 20,000 and 15,000 Ft.

They do not have to wait for very long.

Radar picks up the approach of enemy aircraft coming in at about 10,000 Ft.  Four Daitai/Sentai are ordered for a long-range intercept.  Over the last few weeks the pilots have become used to seeing small to medium group of American made B-24 bombers. That is not the case for today.  Picking them up at a great distance, the Japanese count nearly 60 fighters escorting 64 bombers.

In the opening moments, the Allied Escort Commander makes a terrible blunder.  He orders the 2 Squadrons of Spitfires and 1 Squadron of Hurricanes to range out and meet the incoming Japanese while he holds his 2 Squadrons of new P-38s as close-in escort for the bombers.  This is a terrible move as the 35 British fighters are bounced by nearly 130 Japanese planes.  For very few losses the Japanese shot down nearly ALL of the Brit Fighters.  As the Japanese close-in to the bombers the P-38 pilots see that they are outnumbered about 8-1.  Little can be done as--by now all 8 Japanese Daitai and Sentai--the fighters get into the vulnerable bombers...within a period of 10 minutes--as the bombers enter their bomb run--over a dozen Wellingtons and fourteen B-24s fall to Japanese fire.  The formations are schreaded and little damage is done to the Airfields.

Round ONE to the Japanese in spectacular fashion!  About 7 Zero and 11 Tony fall in exchange for 56 Fighters and 27 Bombers.  Numerous Japanese fighters enter the landing cycle for fuel and ammunition.

After a lull of about 45 minutes--enough time to reprovision the fighters--radar picks up two large Allied formations closing in on Rangoon.  A quick scramble gets 83 Zero and 88 Tony back up to altitude.

The composition of the incoming formation catches the Japanese by surprise.  A meager escort of 8 Kittyhawk protect a much larger grouping of 58 Wellington bombers.  Quickly wiping out the Kittyhawks, the fighters close in an CRUSH the Wellington formations shotting down 22 and damaging nearly every other one left!  This comes for a cost of 4 Zero and 3 Tony.  Another fantastic victory!

End Round TWO.

The final formation comes in on the heels of the destroyed 2nd attack group.  This group of Allied planes--coming from far northern Burma and eastern India packs a real Sunday punch:  37 P-38 escorting 35 B-17/B-24 and 24 Wellington.  The Allied planes get in close before the Japanese can effectively intercept.  Many Japanese fighters need fuel and ammunition but don't get the chance to land.  Add to that the pilots are now rather tired...

The closely controlled Japanese fighting tactics disintgrate into a massive aerial brawl.  In this type of fight the massed gunpower of the American 4EB as well as disciplined P-38 crews lead to a more uneven exchange.  The losses are rough:  25 Zero and 16 Tony fall in exchange for only 7 P-38 and 6 bombers.  Should be noted that almost eveyr other Allied bombers is damaged but they do survive.  In a reasonably perfect formation the bombers drop their loads onto 2 of the Japanese AF.  They concentrate on the bomber fields and manage to destroy a good number of them on the ground.

The aerial combat winds down as the Allies--having taken horrific losses--go north and the Japanese move into land. 

Summation:  At the end of the evening when all the claims are totalled the apparent results are quite favorable to the Japanese.  They have lost 66 Fighters, 14 Bombers, and 4 other planes.  Of those fighters the VERY good news is that only 33 pilots were actually killed.  The Squadrons are brought back up to strength with new planes and 2 additonal Tony Sentai fly in from Moulmein and Hanoi to help.  As to the leaders:

Army--Major Igarashi shot down 4 planes raising his kills to 13, Major Kanei gets 3 raising his total to 10, and WO Kagawa gets 2 giving him a total of 9 kills.

Navy--PO2 Hirano only got 1 fighter to raise his total to 11 kills but PO2 Nagahama has a banner day bagging 4 enemy fighters and giving him the overall lead of 14 confirmed kills.

The AF are damaged but not too badly (33%) and if given a bit of time they should be repaired quite quickly.

As to the mood of the Allies, one can only guess...  Their maximum effort has cost them 28 P-38, 22 Spitfires, 13 Hurrcanes, 37 Wellingtons, and 15 4EB.  Total:  123 planes.

The Japanese carried the air-to-air day at a ratio of nearly 2-1!  How about that for May 1943??!!

BANZAI!  [:D][:D][:D]

[rominet]

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Dan is in Atlanta for most of the day and now that the boys are sleeping, I intend to update the AAR.

On the subject of resources and oil, I went around the various ports/facilities and found that everything is operating at full strength execpt Palembang and Balikpapan.  The smaller facilities are good but take a look at this:

Palembang
Resources  655 of 900 Operational
Oil  297 of 600 Operational

Balikpapan
Resources  297 of 600 Operational
Oil  88 of 300 Operational

I don't remember those bases being so badly damaged but here we are in April 1943.

I've decided to take off NO resources at these bases and let them repair at a faster rate.  Additionally, I will shut off the Resource repair and emphasize Oil.

I am a little bit surprised that you didn't repair more than that your resources and oil centers.
In all my games, i always make a lot supply stock pile during the first months of the war in order to repair the damaged centers.
It is always a good investement.
If you consider only the problem of the supply, repairing 1 resources center point costs 1000 supplies and give you back 2.25 supplies pts in addition per day. So 1000/2.25 = 444 days or 1 year and about 3 months after, you will be beneficiary in supply.
If you repair 1 oil center point, it gives you 6 supply points in addition per day. So 1000/6 = 166 days or less than 6 months after, you will be beneficiary in supply.
Also, repairing the damaged centers is of high priority in my games.

However, i must admit that i nearly never begin major offensives in China before japanese capture of main resouces and oil centers and an evaluation of the need of supplies to repair them.

[John 3rd]

Rangoon, Burma
May 19, 1943

With some nervousness the Japanese fighter pilots awake the day after their massive aerial victory.  For victory it was but the cost was still 33 pilots who were friends.  During the evening the damaged bomber base flew out their operational aircraft to Tavoy and other AF that aren't damaged.  This day dawns slightly overcast with a brisk wind comes from the sea.  Over breakfast--featuring fresh everything brought in by the massive convoy that is STILL unloading--they talk about the battle yesterday their uphappiness at the new pilots who have come to strengthen their units.

The Tony Sentai are strongest.  They only took serious losses within 59th Sentai and look forward to dealing with the enemy again this morning.  87, as compared to 99 the previous day, Tony claw into the air to take up their high-CAP position.   

The mood over in the Zero Daitai is much grimer.  Their planes are far more flimsy in construction and though the mechanics have stayed up the entire night repairing planes, only 20 are able to take to the air...

WILL the Allies come?  The answer is almost immediately YES!

The target for the Allies is different today.  Instead of attacking the AF (which all the fighter pilots think is the correct move) the Allied planes come in lower heading for the harbor.  There will be three morning raids and an afternoon raid:

RAID 1:  87 T and 20 Z versus 2 P-38, 3 B-17, and 2 B-25.  For NO losses the Japanese claim all these planes with the lone exception of a B-17 seen going north with 2 engines out.  Most importantly NO Japanese losses.

RAID 2:  64 Tony, 36 Zero (more repaired and flying), and 6 Tojo from Moulmein versus 16 P-38, 19 4EB, and 7 Wellington.  Having a near 6-1 advantage in the air helps the Japanese avenge their heavy losses to this Squadron!  During the course of the battle 14 P-38, 3 Wellington, and 5 4EB fall to earth.  Their is some cost at 1 Zero, 1 Tojo, and 3 Tony.  This raid gets through and is drawn to the BB TF containing Mutsu and Nagato.  The Mutsu takes 2 500lb Bombs and a fresh gallon of paint is applied over the scratches!

RAID 3:  Directly behind this attack comes 15 Liberators and 10 B-25.  The fighters slash into this group and shot down 8 B-25s before the entire raid turns and runs for home!  There is 1 Tony lost during this engagement.

RAID 4:  72 Tony and 16 Zero versus 16 unescorted Wellington bombers.  Five of the bombers fall with all the rest damaged.  They do manage to plant a bomb on a Japanese AK.  No losses for the Japanese.

Moulmein catches a raid as well: 59 Zero and 36 Tony attack 5 4EB and a recon P-38.  ALL are shot down!

Totals for this day are 6 Japanese fighters for 16 P-38, 10 B-25, 6 B-17, 6 B-24, 8 Wellington, and 1 P-38R. Total 6 Japanese for 47 Allied...

Unfortunately none of the leading aces score this day but it should be noted that the losses from both days feature NO Daitai or Sentai leaders.  Orders come down that the 59th and F1-Omura units are to be transferred to Hanoi for training while 2 Sentai of Tony and Tojo take their place on the 20th.

The engineers have managed to fully repair the AF and runways.  Unfortunately, the Hangars and Repair Facilities still need another day to be brought back to peak efficiency...  

[John 3rd]

Rominet,
 
Good comments and I will learn from them for when AE comes out.  Right now, I am pulling NOTHING of supply out from either base for the next few months.  That should help some...
 
 

[rominet]

Hi John 3rd

your game seems to be interesting, and your AAR is very precise but sorry, as a good french people, i am not very familiar with english and i can't follow your AAR as well as i would like to.
I must recognize that for WitP, i would have preferred to be an american people or an english one.[;)]

[John 3rd]

My opponent has abandoned me this afternoon and since the kids are still taking their naps, I have decided to make an addition to my AAR.  This is going to be topical:

Midway
Dan has moved engineers into Laysen Ilse.  He is building up French Frigate Shoals as well.  As soon as either of these reach a Lvl 2 AF then Midway will begin to become untenable.  With this in mind, I have decided to stage an evacuation of the Island PRIOR to Dan's anticipated build-up.  These are the units currently at Midway:  5th Base Force, 142nd IJNAF Base Force, 3rd Coastal Gun Regiment, 21st Mortar Btn, 5th Ind Brigade, and 8th Ind Brigade.

I want to leave enough on the two islands to make a good fight but NOT lose everything.  Two groups of APs have left Osaka carrying some supplies for Midway and to take off troops.  My current thinking is to leave the 5th Base Force, 5th Ind Brigade, and 21st Mortar Btn.  I would lift out the small BF, Coastal Guns, and 8th Ind Brigade and move them to either Wake or Marcus. 

This move would leave enough at Midway to make Dan take it seriously and serve to strengthen my lines in more vital--less exposed--areas.

Comments?

Rangoon
I cannot believe that Dan stopped his aerial offensive here.  I had done quite well but he has many more planes and crews to use then I.  The total cost of his 3 day assault was: 

Japan
37 Zero, 34 Tony, 1 Tojo, 14 Bombers, 2 Recon, 2 Float Plane:  100 planes (70 in the air and 30 on the ground)

Allies
44 P-38, 8 Kittyhawk, 22 Spitfire, 13 Hurricane, 29 4EB, 45 Wellington, 10 B-25:  171 planes (all a-t-a)

Shooting down 171 for 70 in Air-to-Air Combat in late-May 1943 is OUTSTANDING!  That is 2.4 to 1...


How about that 'unfair' Air Model of yours Brian?!!  I have read too many people criticize how mean your model is to the Japanese...

[vettim89]

Big Bob rules[&o]. No complaints as Allied player in my game even though we only are in January 42