Bigbaba y Ike99

[Ike99]

Certain technical advisors have helped...

[;)]

Air attack on 16th Regiment, at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
A6M3 Zero x 22

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 64

no losses [8D]

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 35 destroyed[X(]
SBD Dauntless x 10 damaged

PO1 D.Katsuma of AII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 6 (ACE!) [&o]

LCDR W. Hamilton of VB-2 bails out and is RESCUED

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 13

[bigbaba]

this damnd samurais must be pumped full with testosteron, anabolika and adrenalin.

they cant shoot down so many SBD just with sake and rice. what do you give em to eat, mario.?=)

anyway...when i have my corsairs, your samurais will not paint much more stars to the fuselage of their zeros.

[decaro]

Where were your escorts?

[Ike99]

8-27-43

[Ike99]

Five, Allied Heavy Cruisers were recently sunk in a single day at a cost of 35 Japanese aircraft.

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: Ike99

Ships Lost

Allies-

6 Transports

Japan-

11 Transports

So all the hype in preceding panels about the glorious success of the IJN in sinking Allied transports was naught but propaganda and lies when the IJN was actually losing almost twice as many as they were sinking during that same period................

[Ike99]

So all the hype in preceding panels about the glorious success of the IJN in sinking Allied transports was naught but propaganda and lies when the IJN was actually losing almost twice as many as they were sinking during that same period...

How are you feeling today Hans, are you good?

Port Moresby on the Brink

8-28-42

Japanese assaults are starting to inflict more casulties than they recieve and there are 15,000 more arriving in Port Moresby in 3 turns down the Kokoda track.

If Port Moresby collapses with the loss of that many Allied divisions I would think Bigbaba would have to ask for surrender terms.
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Ground combat at Port Moresby

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 68550 troops, 835 guns, 37 vehicles

Defending force 48010 troops, 309 guns, 107 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 561

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 840

[HansBolter]

I'm always good Ike!

With that jest aside I have to tell you I truly admire your skills in dissembling.

Have you seen my plea for advice on a proposed game in the Opponents Wanted forum?

Any advice you could give as a result of your far greater experience with this game than mine would be greatly appreciated.

p.s. with 68k in PM and another 15k coming down the trail the rest of the empire must be pretty bare!

p.p.s. at the rate of 850 casualties per day you'll have him in the bag in another 56 days or so...[;)]

[bigbaba]

things are under control at PM again:

ACHTUNG ACHTUNG! SONDERMELDUNG...ups, wrong game.=)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/28/42

Ground combat at Port Moresby

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 67484 troops, 835 guns, 37 vehicles

Defending force 66092 troops, 573 guns, 107 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)


Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 1454
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 847
Guns lost 2




a huge problem are this 300+ val/kate night attacks (even in thunderstorm) at PM. its simply unrealistic, but hey..we play without any rule, so its ok.

the CA were moved to PM in a thunderstorm-phase, but unfortunary, there was no thunderstorm above ikes carriers, so they were able to start their attacks.

but more then 1 BB, several CA and a massive force of DD are flooding inside soon.

what i need now:

-better fighters (P-38 will do it for the beginning)
-night fighters with radar! the day air combat isnt that bad at the moment. most of my loses are the AG at the sunken carriers. beside that, we have a 1:1 lose ratio and ike lost 40-50 zeros and 40 betty/nells in the last few days. night raids are the biggest problem now. i set some beaufighters at night CAP in the hope, that they can preforme better then single engine fighters, but the results are only a little bit better then with wildcats and kittyhawks in the night fighter role.

by the way:

ike is a damnd good opponent and gives me a great game and fight for my money. i did some mistakes at the beginning of the game and still have to fight with the results of this mistakes now.

but its ok. it would wonder me not to do any mistakes in my first PBEM-game.

[Ike99]

Yes, bigbaba rushes in the 41st division by fast transports to save collapse at Port Moresby plus some extra for almost 20,000 more men. An American Division.

Hmmm...for how long I wonder. I wonder if it matters at this point really. Japanese points lead is heading towards a 5000 spit. Those Allied soldiers are wrth a lot more points when you kill them.

Bigbaba is right. The night raiders are bombing PM to dirt. Recon now shows a 70% service damage. What is bad for him is Japan will recieve 120 more Betty bombers over the next 30 days.

I will just keep bombing him and make him wear out his ships. The supply needs I´m sure are enormous!

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For my German friend.[;)] I wonder if he knows this actually.

¨Immediately after my arrival at the end of 1948, I went to the Ministery of Naval Aviation. I was deeply impressed with the respect and comradeship in the welcome. In the entire world there are barriers against everything that is German. On the other hand, in the Argentine Armed Forces they naturally don't have those kinds of prejudices. Before the eyes of our Argentine comrades we had lost the war, but not the honour. None of us could ever forget the innate comradeship from the Argentine Nation that was so self evident from that reception.¨

-Adolph Galland.

[bigbaba]

although adolf galland was not a hardcore nazi, he was part of the system and suffered loss of reality after the war.

he was a german tecnical advoiser for the great british production "battle of britain" until he had a dispute with the director of the film. galland realy
said, that there were no nazis inside the luftwaffe, what is simply nonsense.

the german luftwaffe was a elite unit of the 3th reich like the kriegsmarine and the airborne troops. we have some of this veterans in germany who realy belive, that 8th mai was a day of defeat and not a day of liberation and who deny, that the wehrmacht committed some war criminals. they are no nazis, but they only accept their own fantasieworld of a clean and naziless wehrmacht what is simply not true.

ok that was too much off topic.

[decaro]

ORIGINAL: Ike99

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For my German friend.[;)] I wonder if he knows this actually.

Which "German" friend are you referring to, Ike?

[HansBolter]

Now, now Joe....everyone knows I am not really German.

While I am a bit of a Germanophile and enjoy commanding their forces in wargames I am really just an Ami hiding loosely behind the moniker of one of Germany's greatest Tiger tank aces.

I do have a bit of hereitary German blood coursing through my "melting pot" veins. I am 50% blood Lebonese (maternal grandparents emigrated to the US from Lebanon), 25% Welsh and 25% German (paternal side) as far as original countries of family origin are concerned.

[decaro]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Now, now Joe....everyone knows I am not really German.

That's why I put German in parenthesis, but I'm not sure if Ike is referring to you, his opponent from Koblenz, or both.

ORIGINAL: HansBolter
... I do have a bit of hereitary German blood coursing through my "melting pot" veins. I am 50% blood Lebonese (maternal grandparents emigrated to the US from Lebanon), 25% Welsh and 25% German (paternal side) as far as original countries of family origin are concerned.

That reminds me of that old George C. Scott line from Kubrick's "The Hindenburg" when Scott's character sarcastically said something to the effect that "the whole world was mongrelized," w/the exception of those in Berlin!

[bigbaba]

ok, there is something wrong here.

i got (again) totaly different combat results in one turn:

this is the combat report ike sent to me BEFORE i started the game and run the "combat save" file:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/31/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 84
B5N Kate x 119

Allied aircraft

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val x 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort x 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk x 9 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk x 21 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 3 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 4 damaged
P-400 Airacobra x 2 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra x 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
Men lost 297

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 84

Attacking Level Bombers:
11 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
12 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
8 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
16 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
18 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
10 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
8 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
17 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
13 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
6 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet

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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 7
G4M1 Betty x 35

Allied aircraft

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 2 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 5 damaged


Allied ground losses:
Men lost 111

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x G3M Nell at 5000 feet
14 x G4M1 Betty at 5000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty at 5000 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 5000 feet
12 x G4M1 Betty at 5000 feet

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Moresby at 10,40

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Shell hits 6
BB Hiei, Shell hits 3
CA Tone, Shell hits 8, on fire
CA Chikuma
CA Takao, Shell hits 5
CA Atago, Shell hits 3
CA Maya
CA Chokai, Shell hits 7
CA Haguro, Shell hits 5
CA Nachi, Shell hits 1
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 7
CA Mogami, Shell hits 7
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 1
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano, Shell hits 3
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 2, on fire
CA Kako
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 1
CL Yubari
DD Hayashio
DD Shigure
DD Asanagi, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 7, on fire
CA Chicago, Shell hits 4, on fire
CA Astoria
CA Quincy, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Bagley, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Helm, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Dunlap, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Fanning
DD Porter, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD Phelps, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
DD Dewey, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Dale, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Monaghan


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Sub attack at 14,43

Japanese Ships
CA Tone, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-47


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
E13A1 Jake x 2

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 32
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-40E Kittyhawk x 14
P-40E Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged
E13A1 Jake x 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 damaged
P-39D Airacobra x 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra x 2 damaged
P-40E Kittyhawk x 1 destroyed
P-40E Kittyhawk x 1 damaged

WO R.Kasai of F2/1st Daitai is credited with kill number 4


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 33

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 6
P-40E Kittyhawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 destroyed
P-40E Kittyhawk x 1 destroyed
P-40E Kittyhawk x 1 damaged


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 22

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3

no losses

no losses


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3

no losses

no losses


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Air attack on TF, near Lae at 9,33


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Harukaze
DD Amagiri, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Attacking Level Bombers:
2 x B-17E Fortress at 5000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 5000 feet

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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
E13A1 Jake x 1

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 25
P-39D Airacobra x 7
P-40E Kittyhawk x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed
E13A1 Jake x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra x 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk x 1 destroyed

WO R.Kasai of F2/1st Daitai is credited with kill number 5


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 31

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 12
P-39D Airacobra x 2
P-40E Kittyhawk x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 1

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged
P-39D Airacobra x 1 damaged


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 22

Allied aircraft
P-40E Kittyhawk x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 1

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Kittyhawk x 1 destroyed


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
P-40E Kittyhawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 1

no losses

no losses


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Air attack on TF at 17,44


Allied aircraft
Hudson x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson x 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa, on fire

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x Hudson at 5000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lae at 9,33


Allied aircraft
Hudson x 6


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson x 1 destroyed
Hudson x 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Mikazuki
DD Yugure

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x Hudson at 5000 feet
2 x Hudson at 5000 feet

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Ground combat at Port Moresby

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 72837 troops, 909 guns, 37 vehicles

Defending force 64803 troops, 570 guns, 106 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 6)



1LT N.Okajima of 24th Sentai is credited with kill number 2
Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 564
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 552




and this is the combat report for the same round AFTER i run the "combat save" file:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/31/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 84
B5N Kate x 119

Allied aircraft

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val x 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort x 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk x 8 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk x 23 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 3 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 7 damaged


Allied ground losses:
Men lost 215

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 68

Attacking Level Bombers:
11 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
12 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
8 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
16 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
18 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
10 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
8 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
17 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
13 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet
6 x B5N Kate at 5000 feet

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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 7
G4M1 Betty x 35

Allied aircraft

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 2 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 3 damaged
P-40E Kittyhawk x 1 destroyed
P-40E Kittyhawk x 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
Men lost 86
Vehicles lost 1

Runway hits 17

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x G3M Nell at 5000 feet
14 x G4M1 Betty at 5000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty at 5000 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 5000 feet
12 x G4M1 Betty at 5000 feet

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Sub attack at 13,33

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
SS Tautog, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Moresby at 10,40

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Shell hits 3
BB Hiei, Shell hits 3
CA Tone, Shell hits 1
CA Chikuma, Shell hits 3, on fire
CA Takao
CA Atago, Shell hits 2
CA Maya, Shell hits 1
CA Chokai
CA Haguro
CA Nachi, Shell hits 1
CA Ashigara
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 1
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano, Shell hits 1
CA Kinugasa
CA Kako
CL Tatsuta
CL Yubari
DD Hayashio
DD Shigure
DD Asanagi

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 1
CA Chicago, Shell hits 3
CA Astoria
CA Quincy, Shell hits 1
DD Bagley
DD Helm, Shell hits 1
DD Dunlap
DD Fanning
DD Porter, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Phelps
DD Dewey, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Dale, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Monaghan, Shell hits 3, on fire


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
E13A1 Jake x 1

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 34
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-40E Kittyhawk x 8
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed
E13A1 Jake x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged
P-39D Airacobra x 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra x 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk x 1 damaged

WO R.Kasai of F2/1st Daitai is credited with kill number 4


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 31

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 21
P-39D Airacobra x 9
P-40E Kittyhawk x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged
P-39D Airacobra x 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra x 1 damaged

1LT L. Meng of 35th FS is credited with kill number 3


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 22

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
P-39D Airacobra x 5
P-40E Kittyhawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 1

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra x 1 destroyed

LTJG K.Kawakami of F2/2nd Daitai is credited with kill number 3


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 7
P-40E Kittyhawk x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 1

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra x 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra x 1 damaged

LT R.Kamisaka of F1/Tainan Daitai is credited with kill number 2


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Air attack on TF at 17,44


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kako

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 5000 feet

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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
E13A1 Jake x 2

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 27
P-39D Airacobra x 6
P-40E Kittyhawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged
P-39D Airacobra x 1 damaged
P-40E Kittyhawk x 1 damaged

FO J. Jacobs of 35th FS is credited with kill number 3


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14
P-39D Airacobra x 3
P-40E Kittyhawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 damaged
P-39D Airacobra x 1 damaged
P-40E Kittyhawk x 1 destroyed

WO E.Inuzuka of 24th Sentai is credited with kill number 2


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 21

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11
P-39D Airacobra x 3
P-40E Kittyhawk x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra x 1 destroyed

LTJG D.Murakami of F2/2nd Daitai is credited with kill number 2


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
P-40E Kittyhawk x 3

no losses

no losses


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Ground combat at Port Moresby

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 72783 troops, 908 guns, 37 vehicles

Defending force 64787 troops, 571 guns, 105 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 6)



CPT A.Donahue of 21st TCS bails out and is RESCUED
Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 740
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 747
Guns lost 1




as you see, there is a huge difference between the both combat reports in nearly every battle in the same round. would be great if someone from matrix could say something about that.

[HansBolter]

I recently asked Todd about differences between the saved combat report I receive from my opponnent and the combat results of replaying the saved combat phase. He chalked it up to the fog of war effect.

What I find highly peculiar and unrealistic is the content of the following result in particular:

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort x 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk x 9 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk x 21 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 3 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 4 damaged
P-400 Airacobra x 2 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra x 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
Men lost 297

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 84


Note that the runway took 84 hits while the surrounding base took only 5 hits.

The only way that many planes could have been damaged on the ground from that hit distribution would be if the planes were all parked on the runway wingtip to wing tip to "protect them from sabotage" such as at Pearl Harbor. Under known and ongoing war conditions it is plausible that a few planes might be caught on the runway, but the vast majority of the planes would be dispersed around the airbase (in revetments if they are available).

The destruction of that many planes on the ground could be plausible and believable IF and ONLY IF the hit results were reversed with the runway taking 5 hits while the base takes the 84!

Those plane destroyed results from that hit distribution make a the game a mockery of the war.

[Ike99]

ok, there is something wrong here.

i got (again) totaly different combat results in one turn:

this is the combat report ike sent to me BEFORE i started the game and run the "combat save" file:

Hi Bigbaba, the report you can trust is my report that gets sent in my mail. This one will be accurate. The Allied report and replay is not always accurate. Sometimes wildly innaccurate.

as you see, there is a huge difference between the both combat reports in nearly every battle in the same round. would be great if someone from matrix could say something about that.

I think Gary and Joe have left the building on the UV a long time ago unfortunately. I wonder if this replay issue has been addressed in CF?

[decaro]

ORIGINAL: Ike99

... the report you can trust is my report that gets sent in my mail. This one will be accurate. The Allied report and replay is not always accurate. Sometimes wildly innaccurate.

I'm confused over this: the IJN player sends the Allied player three files, the combat report text document and the 2 UVS files: the combatsave and the named UV game file, so both players share all the same files.

The system is WEGO, so there's an IJ half-turn, an Allied half-turn, then they both "go," though the first person to see this is the IJ player as the turn doesn't start until both sides have finished. So why would this WEGO report be different when sent to the Allied player, or am I missing something?

[Ike99]

The system is WEGO, so there's an IJ half-turn, an Allied half-turn, then they both "go," though the first person to see this is the IJ player as the turn doesn't start until both sides have finished. So why would this WEGO report be different when sent to the Allied player, or am I missing something?

Everytime combat takes place in the game a new combat report gets written. Even when the Allied player is running his replay.

9-1-42

Air Losses

Allies-1,082
Japan-666

(Ishihara has scored his 13th kill)



Naval Losses

Allies-

Carriers-2
Heavy Crusers-5
Light Cruisers-1
Destroyers-12
Submarines-4
Fast Transport Destroyers-1
Mine Sweeper Destroyers-2
Mine Sweepers-2
Oilers-1
Transports-12

Japan-

Destroyers-4
Submarines-3
Fast Transport Destroyers-3
Mine Sweepers-1
Mine Layer-1
Tankers-1
Transports-12
Float Plane Support-1

(minor vessels excluded, eg.PC/SC)

Points

Japan- 8,411
Allies-4,144

[HansBolter]

So no one has a comment about how 5 airbase hits destroyed 37 planes?

What were these bombs 20,000 pounders?