Princess Irene Brigade

[el cid again]

It appears it was planned to send a unit of regular Dutch Army troops to NEI - that this met internal resistence (enlisted men did not like the idea and the Constitution said only volunteers could be sent to NEI) - and that the plan was overtaken by events when Japan invaded. Apparently an element did eventually get incorporated in a special forces unit. The unit appears not to have wholly formed up - and would need time to do that - or we could make it appear below strength. Investigating OB and possible dates/arrival points for use in some scenarios. This was brought to my attention by our resident Dutch member in discussions about possible policy for a game in which I will play OSO - but which has not yet begun.

[DuckofTindalos]

Later in the war, another unit of that name (but with a British Army TOE) fought in Northwestern Europe.

[wild_Willie2]

They where an all Dutch brigade size LCU and fought from Normandy onward in europe.....

[DuckofTindalos]

Yes... I know they were all Dutch; what I said was they had a British TOE, since the British trained and equipped them.

Was more a reinforced battalion than a brigade. Only 1400 men.

[el cid again]

Our Dutch player more or less says the same thing: he said it was not sent to NEI in the event - so it no doubt stayed in UK - and fought ETO IRL. He also says it was planned to have three battalions of 1200 men - and it started at 150 men (who DID go to Far East as an element of Korps Insulinde) - and that is compatable with it never did get to full size. I guess they were all volunteers - and not too many could be found I suppose. Do you have any more data on TO&E?

I am thinking this unit belongs in EOS family but not CVO/BBO family scenarios.

[DuckofTindalos]

Nope. Took a look around for it but couldn't find much. I know there was at least a British TOE motorized battalion, as well as a reconnaissance squadron with armoured cars and an artillery battery.

[Jo van der Pluym]

El Sid

I have find some info.

In 1941 was the organisation of the brigade:

Brigade Staff
Armored Car Squadron
2 Battalions
Depot (source for 3rd Battalion)
Signals section
Medical section
Maintenance section
MP section
Brigade Trains


In 1943 was the organisation
Staf
Recon squadron
3 Battlegroups (6 platoons, HMG Platoon, 8cm Mortar Section)
Artillery Battery
AT
Signals section
Medical section
Maintenance section
MP section
Brigade Trains

The equipment in 1943 is
62 Pistols
692x Rifles
380x SMGs (Sten)
89x LMGs (Bren)
12x Vickers HMGs
38x PIATs
24x 5cm Mortars
6x 8cm Mortar
9x 2cm AA Guns
8x AT Guns (6 pdr)
6x Guns (25 pdr)
1428x Handgrenades

[Kereguelen]

Jo,

if you also have something about the Mariniers Brigade, it would be nice if you could post it here and name your source.

Thanks!

K

[Jo van der Pluym]

ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

Jo,

if you also have something about the Mariniers Brigade, it would be nice if you could post it here and name your source.

Thanks!

K

Hi Kereguelen

Here is a link about the Dutch Mariniers Brigade. Only it's in dutch. If you like a translation let me know.

http://www.dekolonisatie.com/mariniersb ... index.html

[Kereguelen]

ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym

ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

Jo,

if you also have something about the Mariniers Brigade, it would be nice if you could post it here and name your source.

Thanks!

K

Hi Kereguelen

Here is a link about the Dutch Mariniers Brigade. Only it's in dutch. If you like a translation let me know.

http://www.dekolonisatie.com/mariniersb ... index.html

Wow, thanks again. Very useful and interesting site. And thanks for your offer to translate, but I can read and understand Dutch well enough.

K