Aberdeen Proving Grounds

[JeffroK]

DD696,
 
Your pic of the M4 & the French Renault, I think the M4 was a 76mm gunned version rather than the Firefly.
 
The M4 in canadian colours would be a Firefly.

[Raverdave]

Yeah "Pucka" has a nice collection, and they are well looked after.  There was a rather large private collection out in the back blocks of Narre Warren North but it was all broken up and sold off.  Did you get to see the prototype Bushmasters that they blew-up as part of the testing? Really interesting stuff. 

@ John Lansford  That really shitsmeoff when they will not let you take pics.....seems to me they are trying to force you to buy postcards and books from the shop that is always attached to such places.

[Raverdave]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

RAVER![&o][&o]

G'day T [;)]

[JeffroK]

ORIGINAL: Raverdave

Yeah "Pucka" has a nice collection, and they are well looked after.  There was a rather large private collection out in the back blocks of Narre Warren North but it was all broken up and sold off.  Did you get to see the prototype Bushmasters that they blew-up as part of the testing? Really interesting stuff. 

@ John Lansford  That really shitsmeoff when they will not let you take pics.....seems to me they are trying to force you to buy postcards and books from the shop that is always attached to such places.

Raver,

At least the Lee/Grant is now at Pucka, another worthwhile visit is the RAAOC museum at Bandiana (Nr Wodonga, 200m Nth of Melb), they have a lot of small arms and support vehicles. They only had complete ASLAAV's, but were tidying up for ANZAC Day when I last went.

[Raverdave]

Yup....been there too, but that was a long time ago ( 5 years or so?).   Sounds like I need to get back there.  

[DD696]

ORIGINAL: John Lansford

There's a much smaller armored museum in Danville, Virginia, that has many rare vehicles in it and adding more all the time.  They've got a Pzkw IV-J that was in the German, Finnish, Syrian and Israeli armies, and some APC's from the Soviet, British, German and US armies.  They're all indoors and don't allow photography, but it's a real nice visit.

http://www.aaftankmuseum.com/

According to their website, photography is allowed but flash is not. Looks like it would be interesting but it appears most of it is post-WWII AFV's. They don't provide much information as to what AFV's they have.

[patrickl]

ORIGINAL: Blackwatch_it

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL

ORIGINAL: m10bob

If ya' wanna see a King Tiger, got to the Patton museum at Ft Knox, near Louisville.........


http://www.generalpatton.org/index.asp

Yes, that's right. I forgot that the Patton museum is who has the King Tiger.

TOMLABEL

The Kampfgruppe Peiper King Tiger in La Gleize, Ardennes

Yeah, the King Tiger - meanest tankeater![X(]

[John Lansford]

Yeah, they allow photos, but all the AFV's are in a big warehouse with dim lighting, so if you don't have a flash you end up with super dark pictures.  They've got a T-34-85, the Mk IV H I mentioned earlier (I recall the side skirts so it wasn't a J), some really old British and US WWI tanks, a lot of guns and artillery, and yes, mostly post-WWII stuff too.

[mikemike]

ORIGINAL: DD696



According to their website, photography is allowed but flash is not.

The RAF Museum in Hendon had the same restriction when I was there in '87. They had fire detectors that were triggered by photoflashes (probably some kind of UV sensors).

[marky]

ORIGINAL: DD696

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[Feinder]

I think the "little unknown" is a French R-35.

-F-

[Historiker]

ORIGINAL: DD696

ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: DD696

Late US SPA

That's a German Ferdinand.

Wasn't this also called the Elefant? That just looked too new and in too good of shape to be one of the German AFV's. That's as good a find as the JagdTiger is.

THis is indeed an Elefant.
Mostly its the same tank but the Ferdinand was the first version without any MG. As we see a frontal Driver MG, its an Elefant.

Terminus, you're wrong. The Ferdinand was first, then the Elefant...

I wanted to help identify the rest just to see that it was already done

[Odin]

ORIGINAL: DD696

A more modern German tank destroyer. What is it?

Kanonenjagdpanzer 90mm

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanonenjagdpanzer

[morganbj]

I got to shoot one of those in Graf in 1974, I think it was.  I was on a range recon mission at one of the smaller ranges close to the main part of the kaserne when the range OIC, a German lieutenant, asked if I'd like to watch them shoot.  After spending a few minutes in the tower with him, he asked if I'd like to fire a few rounds.  "Hell, yes!" was my reply.
 
Well, we went over, climbed in, and after a couple of instructions, I got to fire three or four rounds at a silhouette target downrange.  Somebody who knows help me here.  As I remember, the trigger was foot activated (i.e., like an old floor-mounted dimmer switch?).  Am I geeting senile, or is that how it was done?  I remember it was VERY different than our M60A1s.
 
"Fun, fun fun, 'till daddy tool the T-Bird away."
 

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: marky

Geez, Marky, I knew you were kinda young but take some vitamins or something! [:D]

[bobogoboom]

ORIGINAL: DD696

ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: DD696

Late US SPA

That's a German Ferdinand.

Wasn't this also called the Elefant? That just looked too new and in too good of shape to be one of the German AFV's. That's as good a find as the JagdTiger is.

history channel[8|] just did an episode of tank overhauling on this vehicle. they just restored it.

[stuman]

ORIGINAL: marky

ORIGINAL: DD696

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Now I KNOW this will sink a Japanese Battleship. I don't care how good their armor was.

[flaggelant]

that bomb's gonna way over 3 tons!?!
 
was that a single bomb load for a 4EB???
can't imagine anything getting up in the air with that thing inside/ attached [X(]

[DuckofTindalos]

Erm, you have heard of Grand Slam and Tallboy, right?

[DuckofTindalos]

The bomb, BTW, weighs 44,000 pounds and was an American weapon called the T-12. With the advent of nuclear weapons, it became obsolete.