1.03 - West Front - Unit Issues for Final Release
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RE: 1.03 - West Front - Unit Issues for Final Release
United States -
M26A1 Heavy Tanks - 3D image and unit picture shows a raft
There are two identical SP 4 units of M3 GMC 75mm Gun Halftracks - the other is called M3 GMC 75mm Tank Destroyer Halftracks but it is the same weapon as the first
There are two types of 2 1/2 Ton GMC's; one being open-top and the other with a canvas cover. Both types share the same name.
Suggest calling one 2 1/2 Ton GMC's (open top) to avoid confusion for scenario designers and to differentiate the two.
1 Ton Trucks have a German-grey looking color scheme.
Both units of Motorcycles are using Wagons as their graphic
14 and 16 inch Naval Guns still use old graphic.
CH-34 Choctaw - no graphic
A1 Skyraider - no graphic
M26A1 Heavy Tanks - 3D image and unit picture shows a raft
There are two identical SP 4 units of M3 GMC 75mm Gun Halftracks - the other is called M3 GMC 75mm Tank Destroyer Halftracks but it is the same weapon as the first
There are two types of 2 1/2 Ton GMC's; one being open-top and the other with a canvas cover. Both types share the same name.
Suggest calling one 2 1/2 Ton GMC's (open top) to avoid confusion for scenario designers and to differentiate the two.
1 Ton Trucks have a German-grey looking color scheme.
Both units of Motorcycles are using Wagons as their graphic
14 and 16 inch Naval Guns still use old graphic.
CH-34 Choctaw - no graphic
A1 Skyraider - no graphic
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Yugoslavia -
Pack Horses - no graphic
Potez 25 Lt. Bomber using same graphic as Breguet Br. XIX A2 Bomber
Pack Horses - no graphic
Potez 25 Lt. Bomber using same graphic as Breguet Br. XIX A2 Bomber
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RE: 1.03 - West Front - Unit Issues for Final Release
And finally, just a wish list for some German units from my pet project:
FK 295(r) 76.2mm Field Guns- rename to FK 295/2(r) 76.2mm Field Guns
leFH 105mm 302(f) Field Guns- rename to K 331(f) 105mm Guns
leFH 396(r) 122mm Howitzers- use proper data from model 122-38 Russian howitzer
sFH 433(r) 152mm Howitzers- rename to sFH 443(r) 152mm Howitzers
sFH 312(f) 155mm Howitzers- rename to sFH 414(f) 155mm Howitzers
leFH 321(f) 120mm Field Guns- get rid of it, or give it to the Poles and/or Finns
K 390(r) 122mm Guns- rename to K 390/2(r) 122mm Guns
K 433(r) 152mm Guns- rename to 433/1(r) 152mm Guns
K 417(f) 155mm Guns- rename to K 418(f) 155mm Guns
FK 295(r) 76.2mm Field Guns- rename to FK 295/2(r) 76.2mm Field Guns
leFH 105mm 302(f) Field Guns- rename to K 331(f) 105mm Guns
leFH 396(r) 122mm Howitzers- use proper data from model 122-38 Russian howitzer
sFH 433(r) 152mm Howitzers- rename to sFH 443(r) 152mm Howitzers
sFH 312(f) 155mm Howitzers- rename to sFH 414(f) 155mm Howitzers
leFH 321(f) 120mm Field Guns- get rid of it, or give it to the Poles and/or Finns
K 390(r) 122mm Guns- rename to K 390/2(r) 122mm Guns
K 433(r) 152mm Guns- rename to 433/1(r) 152mm Guns
K 417(f) 155mm Guns- rename to K 418(f) 155mm Guns
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RE: 1.03 - West Front - Unit Issues for Final Release
Don't forget to bring back the Spanish Civil War scenarios
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Information on the German Army http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht.
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Iäm sorry wrong thread
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Guys,
Just started The French in Holland scenario and found that the german bicycles have a helicopter sound ... it quite entertaining, but thought I'd let you know.
GavinP
RE: 1.03 - West Front - Unit Issues for Final Release
Hi Juggalo,
Did you (or anyone else) check weapon attack values while you were checking for graphics glitches? I understand if you didn't, as it's very tedious. If you didn't, I can start going through WF this weekend. Probably not in time for the official release of 1.03, but for future releases.
Did you (or anyone else) check weapon attack values while you were checking for graphics glitches? I understand if you didn't, as it's very tedious. If you didn't, I can start going through WF this weekend. Probably not in time for the official release of 1.03, but for future releases.
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Hi Juggalo,
Did you (or anyone else) check weapon attack values while you were checking for graphics glitches? I understand if you didn't, as it's very tedious. If you didn't, I can start going through WF this weekend. Probably not in time for the official release of 1.03, but for future releases.
No, I didn't....
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RE: 1.03 - West Front - Unit Issues for Final Release
For WF Germans:
Only 1 entry with wrong weapon values:
P01690 - FlaK28(e) 40mm AAG / has 0-0 weapon values
Other minor bugs that I've not seen reported:
Wrong weapon sound for:
P01654 - Sturmtiger / has rocket sound now
Wrong movement sounds for:
P01148-50 - SPW M3(a) Halftrack / using truck sound now
P01024 - SdKfz.M5(a) AA Halftrack / using truck sound now
P01635-36 - UE 630(f) / using halftrack sound though it's fully tracked
One curious unit I'm not sure about. P01641 - SPW AMR35(f) 81mm Mortar Halftracks. The picture, 3d graphic & unit text say it's a tank, but it uses the movement sound, 2d pic, nato symbol & unit type # (36) of a halftrack, as well as the name.
Please don't hold up the official release on account of these minor issues. Just use this list for future reference.[:)]
Only 1 entry with wrong weapon values:
P01690 - FlaK28(e) 40mm AAG / has 0-0 weapon values
Other minor bugs that I've not seen reported:
Wrong weapon sound for:
P01654 - Sturmtiger / has rocket sound now
Wrong movement sounds for:
P01148-50 - SPW M3(a) Halftrack / using truck sound now
P01024 - SdKfz.M5(a) AA Halftrack / using truck sound now
P01635-36 - UE 630(f) / using halftrack sound though it's fully tracked
One curious unit I'm not sure about. P01641 - SPW AMR35(f) 81mm Mortar Halftracks. The picture, 3d graphic & unit text say it's a tank, but it uses the movement sound, 2d pic, nato symbol & unit type # (36) of a halftrack, as well as the name.
Please don't hold up the official release on account of these minor issues. Just use this list for future reference.[:)]
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very minor quibble...but it drove me nuts...
I kept seeing reference for a German-made 10cm Kanone in use by some of the Panzer divisions in Normandy....but there is no such thing in the German platoon file.
after some digging, it seems the sK 18 105mm Guns that are present in the game were actually called sK 18 100mm (10cm) Guns even though the caliber was 105mm.
maybe worth changing to avoid future confusion...[&:]
I kept seeing reference for a German-made 10cm Kanone in use by some of the Panzer divisions in Normandy....but there is no such thing in the German platoon file.
after some digging, it seems the sK 18 105mm Guns that are present in the game were actually called sK 18 100mm (10cm) Guns even though the caliber was 105mm.
maybe worth changing to avoid future confusion...[&:]
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RE: 1.03 - West Front - Unit Issues for Final Release
hi juggalo where can i get arkadys unit viewer,thanks,there are many blank pictures in the stock unit viewerORIGINAL: Juggalo
But they don't show anything in Arkady's unit viewer......ORIGINAL: Jason Petho
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Brazil-
The entire Brazilian OOB has no graphics!
Brazil is using the graphics from Poland to save install space.
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http://arkady.cz/storage/JTCS_Unitviewer.zip
It will also be included with the 1.03 patch...coming out tomorrow I believes...
It will also be included with the 1.03 patch...coming out tomorrow I believes...
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Since the official release of 1.03 had to be postponed for another week, I thought I'd do some more bug-catching.
For WF United States:
Weapon file errors:
P10813 - Rifle Platoon 38 / has 0-0 weapon values
P10525 - A-1 Skyraider / has 0-0 weapon values
P10709 - T26E4-1 Super Pershing / weapon data error (extra space in hard attack line, between 66&61)
P10708 - HQ M4A3E8 Shermans / hard attack values very high (71@1 hex) compared to same units of different SPs, only a 76mm gun
The following are all halftracks using wheeled movement sound:
M2 Halftracks (P10014, 059, 066, 073, 077, 078)
M3A3 Halftracks MG (P10753, 054, 055)
M21 81mm Mortar Halftracks (P10849)
M3 GMC 75mm TD Halftracks (P10016)
M3 GMC 75mm Gun Halftracks (P10061, 726, 727)
T30 HMC 75mm Howitzer Halftracks (P10017, 068)
T19 HMC 105mm Howitzer Halftracks (P10018)
M15A1 MGMC 37mm AA Halftracks (P10019, 020)
M16 MGMC Quad .50cal AA Halftracks (P10021)
Movement sound issues:
M29C Weasel Amph. Cargo Carriers (P10872-75) / using ski sound
CH-34 Choctaw (P10830) / using bicycle sound
OH-13 Sioux (P10831) / using bicycle sound
F-80 Fighter (P10550) / using horse sound
Motorcycles (P10884-85) / using wagon sound / wrong nato & 2d symbols
Others:
M9 & M20 Bazooka Teams (P10777 & P10778) / using plane weapon sound
Pontoon Ferry (P10828) / using crewed boats 3d graphic
For WF United States:
Weapon file errors:
P10813 - Rifle Platoon 38 / has 0-0 weapon values
P10525 - A-1 Skyraider / has 0-0 weapon values
P10709 - T26E4-1 Super Pershing / weapon data error (extra space in hard attack line, between 66&61)
P10708 - HQ M4A3E8 Shermans / hard attack values very high (71@1 hex) compared to same units of different SPs, only a 76mm gun
The following are all halftracks using wheeled movement sound:
M2 Halftracks (P10014, 059, 066, 073, 077, 078)
M3A3 Halftracks MG (P10753, 054, 055)
M21 81mm Mortar Halftracks (P10849)
M3 GMC 75mm TD Halftracks (P10016)
M3 GMC 75mm Gun Halftracks (P10061, 726, 727)
T30 HMC 75mm Howitzer Halftracks (P10017, 068)
T19 HMC 105mm Howitzer Halftracks (P10018)
M15A1 MGMC 37mm AA Halftracks (P10019, 020)
M16 MGMC Quad .50cal AA Halftracks (P10021)
Movement sound issues:
M29C Weasel Amph. Cargo Carriers (P10872-75) / using ski sound
CH-34 Choctaw (P10830) / using bicycle sound
OH-13 Sioux (P10831) / using bicycle sound
F-80 Fighter (P10550) / using horse sound
Motorcycles (P10884-85) / using wagon sound / wrong nato & 2d symbols
Others:
M9 & M20 Bazooka Teams (P10777 & P10778) / using plane weapon sound
Pontoon Ferry (P10828) / using crewed boats 3d graphic
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Checked weapon values for Albania, Allied Italy & Allied Romania; all seem ok.
A couple of things not noted yet:
Allied Italy: no 2d images for all ships
Allied Romania: Reg HQ(ft) & Bde HQ(ft) are using tank movement sound
A couple of things not noted yet:
Allied Italy: no 2d images for all ships
Allied Romania: Reg HQ(ft) & Bde HQ(ft) are using tank movement sound
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Checked weapon values for Belgium, Brazil & Bulgaria; found these:
Bulgaria:
P26502 - Ju87D Dive Bombers / has 0-0 weapon values
Brazil:
P33119 - M1 155mm Howitzers / has 0-0 weapon values
P33017 - T30 HMC 75mm Howitzer Halftracks / using truck movement sound
P33018 - T19 HMC 105mm Howitzer Halftracks / using truck movement sound
Bulgaria:
P26502 - Ju87D Dive Bombers / has 0-0 weapon values
Brazil:
P33119 - M1 155mm Howitzers / has 0-0 weapon values
P33017 - T30 HMC 75mm Howitzer Halftracks / using truck movement sound
P33018 - T19 HMC 105mm Howitzer Halftracks / using truck movement sound
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Checked weapon values for Croatia, Ethiopia & Fascist Spain; all look good.
For Fascist Spain, no 2d icons for the following:
P30829 - Frigate
P30827 - Transport
P30831 - Submarine
P30832 - Crewed Boats
P30833 - Pontoon Ferry / also using Crewed Boats for its 3d image
[>:]I'll check some more later.
For Fascist Spain, no 2d icons for the following:
P30829 - Frigate
P30827 - Transport
P30831 - Submarine
P30832 - Crewed Boats
P30833 - Pontoon Ferry / also using Crewed Boats for its 3d image
[>:]I'll check some more later.
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Besides what has already been noted:
France: All ships are missing 2d icons
Free French: All ships are missing 2d icons
P19832 - Crewed Boats / no 2d icon
P19833 - Pontoon Ferry / no 2d icon / using crewed boats 3d image
Halftracks using wheeled movement sound:
P19032 - M5 Halftracks
P19033 - M21 Mortar Halftracks
P19023 - T30 HMC SP Howitzer Halftracks
No weapon value errors for these 2 forces except possibly the Free French's P19029 Loyd Carriers. It has 0-0 weapon values but the unit text says it's armed with a 25mm ATG or a MG. One or the other is wrong.
France: All ships are missing 2d icons
Free French: All ships are missing 2d icons
P19832 - Crewed Boats / no 2d icon
P19833 - Pontoon Ferry / no 2d icon / using crewed boats 3d image
Halftracks using wheeled movement sound:
P19032 - M5 Halftracks
P19033 - M21 Mortar Halftracks
P19023 - T30 HMC SP Howitzer Halftracks
No weapon value errors for these 2 forces except possibly the Free French's P19029 Loyd Carriers. It has 0-0 weapon values but the unit text says it's armed with a 25mm ATG or a MG. One or the other is wrong.
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K 433(r) 152mm Guns- rename to 433/1(r) 152mm Guns
sorry, should actually be renamed to KH 433/1(r) 152mm Gun-Howitzers.
Also any chance of adding an Italian howitzer to the German inventory?
149/13 is already in the game....German name was sFH 401(i) 150mm Howitzers
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RE: 1.03 - West Front - Unit Issues for Final Release
Checked attack values for Greece, Iran & Iraq. Found only one for Greece:
P15601 - Caique / has 0-0 attack values though it has a firing cost of 35. Similar German unit has values of 2 / 3-1
P15601 - Caique / has 0-0 attack values though it has a firing cost of 35. Similar German unit has values of 2 / 3-1