Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Moderator: Shannon V. OKeets
- jesperpehrson
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Landunit writeups are getting back on track. I have recieved notification from a few of the writers about the current status but I am still awaiting replies from several of them as well.
If YOU are interested in collaborating in the great project now is your chance to do your bit. Send me a PM and I will assign you to frontline duty with one of the countries not yet taken care of. Uncle Steve needs you!
As a side note I just noticed that some of the writeups has been published in the latest WIF annual. [:)]
If YOU are interested in collaborating in the great project now is your chance to do your bit. Send me a PM and I will assign you to frontline duty with one of the countries not yet taken care of. Uncle Steve needs you!
As a side note I just noticed that some of the writeups has been published in the latest WIF annual. [:)]
PBEMgames played
- Korea 50-51 MV as communist
- Agonia y Victoria xx as Republican
- Plan Blau OV as Soviet
- The great war xx as Central Powers
- DNO XX as Soviet
- Korea 50-51 MV as communist
- Agonia y Victoria xx as Republican
- Plan Blau OV as Soviet
- The great war xx as Central Powers
- DNO XX as Soviet
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Capitan is coordinating land unit writeups and I am coordinating naval units writeups. The naval are roughly 50% done, and I believe that is the same status for the land units.ORIGINAL: capitan
Landunit writeups are getting back on track. I have recieved notification from a few of the writers about the current status but I am still awaiting replies from several of them as well.
If YOU are interested in collaborating in the great project now is your chance to do your bit. Send me a PM and I will assign you to frontline duty with one of the countries not yet taken care of. Uncle Steve needs you!
As a side note I just noticed that some of the writeups has been published in the latest WIF annual. [:)]
Andy has completed all the air unit writeups (100%).
Steve
Perfection is an elusive goal.
Perfection is an elusive goal.
- jesperpehrson
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
To be honest we are doing a bit better than that
We have completed 735 out of 1048 writeups. That is actually 70% done!! [:D] That said there are certainly writeups that needs a touch-up but right now we are aiming for completing all writeups and then improving on them.
Right now, until i know the current status of all writers, Belgium, Nat. Spain, Rep. Spain and Czeckoslovakia are open for grabs! State your claim and I will give you a kick in the right direction.
Right now, until i know the current status of all writers, Belgium, Nat. Spain, Rep. Spain and Czeckoslovakia are open for grabs! State your claim and I will give you a kick in the right direction.
PBEMgames played
- Korea 50-51 MV as communist
- Agonia y Victoria xx as Republican
- Plan Blau OV as Soviet
- The great war xx as Central Powers
- DNO XX as Soviet
- Korea 50-51 MV as communist
- Agonia y Victoria xx as Republican
- Plan Blau OV as Soviet
- The great war xx as Central Powers
- DNO XX as Soviet
- jesperpehrson
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- Joined: Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:48 pm
RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Brasil and Argentina are also open for grabs!
PBEMgames played
- Korea 50-51 MV as communist
- Agonia y Victoria xx as Republican
- Plan Blau OV as Soviet
- The great war xx as Central Powers
- DNO XX as Soviet
- Korea 50-51 MV as communist
- Agonia y Victoria xx as Republican
- Plan Blau OV as Soviet
- The great war xx as Central Powers
- DNO XX as Soviet
- jesperpehrson
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- Joined: Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:48 pm
RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Status-report on Landunits (all countries):
743 out of 1062 units done (70%)
DONE:
Siberian Russia 4/4 (Adam) DONE!
Finland 8/8 (Adam) DONE!
Rumania 10/10 (Adam) DONE!
Mongolia 1/1 (Adam) DONE!
Switzerland 6/6 (Adam) DONE!
Phillipines 1/1 (Adam) DONE!
Afghanistan 2/2 (Adam) DONE!
Australia 8/8 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
New Zeeland 3/3 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
South Africa 5/5 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
Denmark 1/1 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
Norway 3/3 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
Poland 14/14 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
AOI 1/1 (Mziln) DONE!
Formosa 1/1 (Mziln) DONE!
Croatia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Ecuador 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Peru 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
French Somalia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Ivory Coast 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
French Sudan 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Senegal 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Middle Congo 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Niger 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Indo-China 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
N. East Indies 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Belgian Congo 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Saudi Arabia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Iraq 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Liberia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Cameroon 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Gabon 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Madagascar 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Morroco 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Algeria 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Tunisia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Syria 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Sudan 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Nigeria 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Sierra Leone 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
British Somalialand 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Egypt 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Kenya 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Uganda 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Tanganyika 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Northern Rhodesia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Southern Rhodesia 1/1 (Capitan)
Palestine 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Aden 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
New Caledonia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Thailand 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Northern Ireland 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Burma 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Sweden 13/13 (Toed) DONE!
Ireland 2/2 (bj_rodhe) DONE!
Hungary 6/6 (Grisouille) DONE!
Bulgaria 3/3 (Grisouille) DONE!
France 68/68(Grisouille)DONE
Greece 4/4 (Grisouille) DONE!
SS-Germany 19/19 (Grisouille) DONE!
Netherlands 2/2 (Grisouille) DONE!
Yugoslavia 9/9 (Dale) (DONE!)
Bolivia 1/1 (Jeff) (DONE!)
Paraguay 1/1 (Jeff) (DONE!)
Colombia 1/1 (Jeff) (DONE!)
Uruguay 1/1 (Jeff) DONE!
Zoya and Tito 2/2 (MarcusWatney) (DONE!)
ASSIGNED but NOT DONE:
USA 50/99 (Adam)
Russia 125/146 (Adam)
Ukraine 0/8 (Adam)
Communist China 16/18 (Wosung)
Nat. China 34/38 (Wosung)
Korea 0/2 (Wosung)
Manchuko 0/4 (Wosung)
Italy 36/61 (Jimm)
Libya 0/3 (Jimm)
Eritrea 0/1 (Jimm)
Italian Somalialand 0/2 (Jimm)
Germany 92/128 (Capitan)
UK 31/57 (Rob)
Canada 9/10 (Rob)
India 3/13 (Rob)
Mexico 0/6 (Jeff)
Panama 0/2 (Jeff)
Venezuela 0/1 (Jeff)
Chile 0/2 (Jeff)
Iran/Persia 0/2 (Herulf)
Portugal 0/2 (Doug)
Turkey 1/13 (Doug)
Austria 0/3 (SGT Rice)
Ethiopia 1/6 (SGT Rice)
Belgium 0/4 (Charlie Lewis)
UNASSIGNED:
Nat. Spain 2/14
Rep. Spain 1/14
Czeckoslovakia 1/15
Japan 64/76
Brasil 0/5
Argentina 0/3
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"NEW UNITS" 16/61
Also the ART (including ART, AA and AT) for all nations is being done by STABILO
Anyone who like to pitch in with any of the unassigned countries is welcome to take part! Just send me a PM and I will help you get started!
- Capitan
743 out of 1062 units done (70%)
DONE:
Siberian Russia 4/4 (Adam) DONE!
Finland 8/8 (Adam) DONE!
Rumania 10/10 (Adam) DONE!
Mongolia 1/1 (Adam) DONE!
Switzerland 6/6 (Adam) DONE!
Phillipines 1/1 (Adam) DONE!
Afghanistan 2/2 (Adam) DONE!
Australia 8/8 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
New Zeeland 3/3 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
South Africa 5/5 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
Denmark 1/1 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
Norway 3/3 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
Poland 14/14 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
AOI 1/1 (Mziln) DONE!
Formosa 1/1 (Mziln) DONE!
Croatia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Ecuador 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Peru 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
French Somalia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Ivory Coast 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
French Sudan 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Senegal 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Middle Congo 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Niger 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Indo-China 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
N. East Indies 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Belgian Congo 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Saudi Arabia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Iraq 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Liberia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Cameroon 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Gabon 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Madagascar 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Morroco 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Algeria 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Tunisia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Syria 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Sudan 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Nigeria 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Sierra Leone 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
British Somalialand 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Egypt 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Kenya 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Uganda 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Tanganyika 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Northern Rhodesia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Southern Rhodesia 1/1 (Capitan)
Palestine 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Aden 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
New Caledonia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Thailand 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Northern Ireland 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Burma 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Sweden 13/13 (Toed) DONE!
Ireland 2/2 (bj_rodhe) DONE!
Hungary 6/6 (Grisouille) DONE!
Bulgaria 3/3 (Grisouille) DONE!
France 68/68(Grisouille)DONE
Greece 4/4 (Grisouille) DONE!
SS-Germany 19/19 (Grisouille) DONE!
Netherlands 2/2 (Grisouille) DONE!
Yugoslavia 9/9 (Dale) (DONE!)
Bolivia 1/1 (Jeff) (DONE!)
Paraguay 1/1 (Jeff) (DONE!)
Colombia 1/1 (Jeff) (DONE!)
Uruguay 1/1 (Jeff) DONE!
Zoya and Tito 2/2 (MarcusWatney) (DONE!)
ASSIGNED but NOT DONE:
USA 50/99 (Adam)
Russia 125/146 (Adam)
Ukraine 0/8 (Adam)
Communist China 16/18 (Wosung)
Nat. China 34/38 (Wosung)
Korea 0/2 (Wosung)
Manchuko 0/4 (Wosung)
Italy 36/61 (Jimm)
Libya 0/3 (Jimm)
Eritrea 0/1 (Jimm)
Italian Somalialand 0/2 (Jimm)
Germany 92/128 (Capitan)
UK 31/57 (Rob)
Canada 9/10 (Rob)
India 3/13 (Rob)
Mexico 0/6 (Jeff)
Panama 0/2 (Jeff)
Venezuela 0/1 (Jeff)
Chile 0/2 (Jeff)
Iran/Persia 0/2 (Herulf)
Portugal 0/2 (Doug)
Turkey 1/13 (Doug)
Austria 0/3 (SGT Rice)
Ethiopia 1/6 (SGT Rice)
Belgium 0/4 (Charlie Lewis)
UNASSIGNED:
Nat. Spain 2/14
Rep. Spain 1/14
Czeckoslovakia 1/15
Japan 64/76
Brasil 0/5
Argentina 0/3
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"NEW UNITS" 16/61
Also the ART (including ART, AA and AT) for all nations is being done by STABILO
Anyone who like to pitch in with any of the unassigned countries is welcome to take part! Just send me a PM and I will help you get started!
- Capitan
PBEMgames played
- Korea 50-51 MV as communist
- Agonia y Victoria xx as Republican
- Plan Blau OV as Soviet
- The great war xx as Central Powers
- DNO XX as Soviet
- Korea 50-51 MV as communist
- Agonia y Victoria xx as Republican
- Plan Blau OV as Soviet
- The great war xx as Central Powers
- DNO XX as Soviet
- meisterchow
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Tried to send you a PM, but your box is full. I'll take Belgium with possibly Argentina and Brazil after that.
'Fear God and dread nought'
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- jesperpehrson
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Oh, did not know it could get full [:(] Will do some deleting then
I will mark you down for Belgium for now then. Please browse this thread for inspiration on how a writeup can be done. Just remember that copy/paste is not permitted and try to use as many sources as possible to create original texts.
I will mark you down for Belgium for now then. Please browse this thread for inspiration on how a writeup can be done. Just remember that copy/paste is not permitted and try to use as many sources as possible to create original texts.
PBEMgames played
- Korea 50-51 MV as communist
- Agonia y Victoria xx as Republican
- Plan Blau OV as Soviet
- The great war xx as Central Powers
- DNO XX as Soviet
- Korea 50-51 MV as communist
- Agonia y Victoria xx as Republican
- Plan Blau OV as Soviet
- The great war xx as Central Powers
- DNO XX as Soviet
- meisterchow
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Since I am not currently part of the playtesting group, can I get a list of those Belgian units appearing in MWiF? I've got WiF:FE and CWiF, but I'd like to be certain of my objectives before starting. 
'Fear God and dread nought'
Coat of Arms Motto of Baron Fisher, of Kilverstone
Coat of Arms Motto of Baron Fisher, of Kilverstone
- jesperpehrson
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
1st Infantry Corps (2671)
2nd Infantry Corps (2672)
Cavalry Corps (2673)
Brussels Militia (2674)
The number is just for the program to identify the right writeup for the right unit.
2nd Infantry Corps (2672)
Cavalry Corps (2673)
Brussels Militia (2674)
The number is just for the program to identify the right writeup for the right unit.
PBEMgames played
- Korea 50-51 MV as communist
- Agonia y Victoria xx as Republican
- Plan Blau OV as Soviet
- The great war xx as Central Powers
- DNO XX as Soviet
- Korea 50-51 MV as communist
- Agonia y Victoria xx as Republican
- Plan Blau OV as Soviet
- The great war xx as Central Powers
- DNO XX as Soviet
-
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Charlie Lewis, here is what i´ve got on the Belgian troops. I had the write-up for those units before. Just so that you can take what you might find interesting and ignore the rest. Look out for my bad english spelling though!
[font="times new roman"]Belgian Cav corp[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]This corp consisted of 1st and 14th infantry division and the 2nd cavalry division. Besides that it had one cavaly brigade, one static infantry regement and one infantry regement with bicycles.[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]As artillry this corp had the 19th horse artillry regement wich consisted of two battalions equipped with 75 mm guns and one battalion equipped with 105 mm guns.[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The 1st anti-aircraft battalion which was motorized was made up of two columns equipped with 40 mm guns and tre companies equipped with 75 mm guns.[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The corp had, in 10 of May 1940, its HQ positioned in St. Truiden. It lies about 55 km east of Brussels.[/font]
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2nd belgian corp
In 10 of May 1940 this corp consisted of 6th and 9th and 11th infantry division (three of Belgiums total 22 divison at this date), the 16th artillery regement and 3rd anti-aircraft defence battalion.
The artillery regement had two artillery battalions equipped with M-13 guns (105 mm), one heavy motorized battalion equipped with M-31 guns (120 mm) and three heavy artillery battalions (not motorized) equipped with M-17 guns (155 mm).
The anti-aircraft defence consisted of only one company equipped with 75 mm anti-air guns.
The HQ for this corp was positioned quite close to Brussels, in Aarshot (10 May 1940) wich is only 35 km east of Brussels.
1st belgian corp
In 10 of May 1940 this corp consisted of 4th and 7th infantry division (two of Belgiums total 22 divison at this date), the 14th artillery regement and 4th anti-aircraft defence battalion.
The artillery regement hade one infantry mortar company equipped with 70mm Van Deuren mortars, one artillery battalion equipped with M-13 guns (105 mm), one heavy motorized battalion equipped with M-31 guns (120 mm) and three heavy artillery battalions (not motorized) equipped with M-17 guns (155 mm).
The anti-aircraft defence consisted of two companies equipped with 75 mm anti-air guns.
The HQ for this corp was positioned in Tongeren (10 May 1940), with lies 75 km east from Brussel, just 15 km from the Dutch boarder.
/Magnus
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[font="times new roman"]Belgian Cav corp[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]This corp consisted of 1st and 14th infantry division and the 2nd cavalry division. Besides that it had one cavaly brigade, one static infantry regement and one infantry regement with bicycles.[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]As artillry this corp had the 19th horse artillry regement wich consisted of two battalions equipped with 75 mm guns and one battalion equipped with 105 mm guns.[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The 1st anti-aircraft battalion which was motorized was made up of two columns equipped with 40 mm guns and tre companies equipped with 75 mm guns.[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The corp had, in 10 of May 1940, its HQ positioned in St. Truiden. It lies about 55 km east of Brussels.[/font]
[font="times new roman"][/font] [font="times new roman"]
2nd belgian corp
In 10 of May 1940 this corp consisted of 6th and 9th and 11th infantry division (three of Belgiums total 22 divison at this date), the 16th artillery regement and 3rd anti-aircraft defence battalion.
The artillery regement had two artillery battalions equipped with M-13 guns (105 mm), one heavy motorized battalion equipped with M-31 guns (120 mm) and three heavy artillery battalions (not motorized) equipped with M-17 guns (155 mm).
The anti-aircraft defence consisted of only one company equipped with 75 mm anti-air guns.
The HQ for this corp was positioned quite close to Brussels, in Aarshot (10 May 1940) wich is only 35 km east of Brussels.
1st belgian corp
In 10 of May 1940 this corp consisted of 4th and 7th infantry division (two of Belgiums total 22 divison at this date), the 14th artillery regement and 4th anti-aircraft defence battalion.
The artillery regement hade one infantry mortar company equipped with 70mm Van Deuren mortars, one artillery battalion equipped with M-13 guns (105 mm), one heavy motorized battalion equipped with M-31 guns (120 mm) and three heavy artillery battalions (not motorized) equipped with M-17 guns (155 mm).
The anti-aircraft defence consisted of two companies equipped with 75 mm anti-air guns.
The HQ for this corp was positioned in Tongeren (10 May 1940), with lies 75 km east from Brussel, just 15 km from the Dutch boarder.
/Magnus
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Thanks, guys, that'll get me going in the right direction. 
'Fear God and dread nought'
Coat of Arms Motto of Baron Fisher, of Kilverstone
Coat of Arms Motto of Baron Fisher, of Kilverstone
RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
HELP!!
Can any trainspotters assist please? The Kent group of the British County-class cruisers contained 7 ships, two of which - Australia and Canberra - were built for the Royal Australian Navy. The five British had their 4-inch AA doubled and their belt armour increased from 1-inch to 4.5. What I need to know and can`t find out anywhere is - did one or both of the Aussie ships receive the same treatment before the war?
Thanks in advance
Can any trainspotters assist please? The Kent group of the British County-class cruisers contained 7 ships, two of which - Australia and Canberra - were built for the Royal Australian Navy. The five British had their 4-inch AA doubled and their belt armour increased from 1-inch to 4.5. What I need to know and can`t find out anywhere is - did one or both of the Aussie ships receive the same treatment before the war?
Thanks in advance
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
ORIGINAL: warspite1
HELP!!
Can any trainspotters assist please? The Kent group of the British County-class cruisers contained 7 ships, two of which - Australia and Canberra - were built for the Royal Australian Navy. The five British had their 4-inch AA doubled and their belt armour increased from 1-inch to 4.5. What I need to know and can`t find out anywhere is - did one or both of the Aussie ships receive the same treatment before the war?
Thanks in advance
d their 4-inch AA doubled and their belt armour increased from 1-inch to 4.5. What I need to know and can`t find out anywhere is - did one or both of the Aussie ships receive the
"All the class except Canberra were reconstructed between 1935 and 1939. A 4 1/2 in cemented armor belt was added in way of the machinery spaces and transmitting station, and 4 in internal armour was added to the sides of the boiler room fan compartments."
For the AA armament: MANY different changes for each ship of the Kent class, some of them individual changes, before and during the war (including different numbers and versions of 4 inches). Frex: Australia 1 quadruple pompons replaced by two octuples in October 1942.
Source: Conway's all the world's fighting ships 1922- 1946, p 26-7.
Regards
wosung
RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Warspite1ORIGINAL: wosung
ORIGINAL: warspite1
HELP!!
Can any trainspotters assist please? The Kent group of the British County-class cruisers contained 7 ships, two of which - Australia and Canberra - were built for the Royal Australian Navy. The five British had their 4-inch AA doubled and their belt armour increased from 1-inch to 4.5. What I need to know and can`t find out anywhere is - did one or both of the Aussie ships receive the same treatment before the war?
Thanks in advanced their 4-inch AA doubled and their belt armour increased from 1-inch to 4.5. What I need to know and can`t find out anywhere is - did one or both of the Aussie ships receive the
"All the class except Canberra were reconstructed between 1935 and 1939. A 4 1/2 in cemented armor belt was added in way of the machinery spaces and transmitting station, and 4 in internal armour was added to the sides of the boiler room fan compartments."
For the AA armament: MANY different changes for each ship of the Kent class, some of them individual changes, before and during the war (including different numbers and versions of 4 inches). Frex: Australia 1 quadruple pompons replaced by two octuples in October 1942.
Source: Conway's all the world's fighting ships 1922- 1946, p 26-7.
Regards
Wosung - thanks but I`ve got that - but then Nelson to Vanguard Warship Design and Development states it was just the five RN Kents [:@]. I HATE it when this happens!!!
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Wosung - thanks but I`ve got that - but then Nelson to Vanguard Warship Design and Development states it was just the five RN Kents [:@]. I HATE it when this happens!!!
As an aside, I just read and enjoyed Nelson to Vanguard but was a bit dismayed by his rooting for the home team at times stretching credulity -- forex arguing that Vanguard and Iowa would have been evenly matched, and rather uncritically accepting the "armored hangar" arguments re CVs without discounting for the drastically reduced sortie rate.
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
From the book titled "British Cruisers of World War II, Naval Institute Press, 1987, by Alan Raven and John Roberts:
Both of the Australian heavy cruisers were fitted with HACS Mk I, SIIL catapults and two .5in quadrupple AA mountings in the early 1930's, but were not significantly regitted otherwise before the outbreak of the war. They were scheduled for complete refitted during 1939 and 1940, but due to the outbreak of the war, the complete refits were never initiated.
Wartime refit history:
Australia:
Nov 1940- Dec 1940:
-four 4in single HA mountings removed
-four 4in twin HA mountings fitted
-type 286 radar fitted
Late 1943
-two quadruple .5in MGs removed
-seven single 20mm fitted
-type 273 and 283 radar fitted
-type 286 radar removed
Early 1944
-seven single 20mm removed
-seven twin 20mm fitted
Early 1945
-eight single Borfors Mk III fitted
Late 1945
-all 20mm removed
Canberra
Early 1941
-Four single pom-poms removed
-four 4in HA mounting removed
-two eight barrelled pom-poms fitted
No further armament changes listed before loss.
Both of the Australian heavy cruisers were fitted with HACS Mk I, SIIL catapults and two .5in quadrupple AA mountings in the early 1930's, but were not significantly regitted otherwise before the outbreak of the war. They were scheduled for complete refitted during 1939 and 1940, but due to the outbreak of the war, the complete refits were never initiated.
Wartime refit history:
Australia:
Nov 1940- Dec 1940:
-four 4in single HA mountings removed
-four 4in twin HA mountings fitted
-type 286 radar fitted
Late 1943
-two quadruple .5in MGs removed
-seven single 20mm fitted
-type 273 and 283 radar fitted
-type 286 radar removed
Early 1944
-seven single 20mm removed
-seven twin 20mm fitted
Early 1945
-eight single Borfors Mk III fitted
Late 1945
-all 20mm removed
Canberra
Early 1941
-Four single pom-poms removed
-four 4in HA mounting removed
-two eight barrelled pom-poms fitted
No further armament changes listed before loss.
RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Warspite1ORIGINAL: Jaguar
From the book titled "British Cruisers of World War II, Naval Institute Press, 1987, by Alan Raven and John Roberts:
Both of the Australian heavy cruisers were fitted with HACS Mk I, SIIL catapults and two .5in quadrupple AA mountings in the early 1930's, but were not significantly regitted otherwise before the outbreak of the war. They were scheduled for complete refitted during 1939 and 1940, but due to the outbreak of the war, the complete refits were never initiated.
Wartime refit history:
Australia:
Nov 1940- Dec 1940:
-four 4in single HA mountings removed
-four 4in twin HA mountings fitted
-type 286 radar fitted
Late 1943
-two quadruple .5in MGs removed
-seven single 20mm fitted
-type 273 and 283 radar fitted
-type 286 radar removed
Early 1944
-seven single 20mm removed
-seven twin 20mm fitted
Early 1945
-eight single Borfors Mk III fitted
Late 1945
-all 20mm removed
Canberra
Early 1941
-Four single pom-poms removed
-four 4in HA mounting removed
-two eight barrelled pom-poms fitted
No further armament changes listed before loss.
Excellent Jaguar - just the confirmation I needed - many thanks
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Warspite1ORIGINAL: wfzimmerman
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Wosung - thanks but I`ve got that - but then Nelson to Vanguard Warship Design and Development states it was just the five RN Kents [:@]. I HATE it when this happens!!!
As an aside, I just read and enjoyed Nelson to Vanguard but was a bit dismayed by his rooting for the home team at times stretching credulity -- forex arguing that Vanguard and Iowa would have been evenly matched, and rather uncritically accepting the "armored hangar" arguments re CVs without discounting for the drastically reduced sortie rate.
I thought it was pretty fair overall. There were some pretty tough criticisms of the RN ships and the Admiralty decisions too. Nelson to Vanguard certainly makes clear that the number of aircraft carried were considerably less in the British ships. Could Vanguard have held her own against Iowa? Let`s be thankful we never needed to find out....[;)]
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Surely the point with the British carriers was that flight deck damage could be repaired at sea with a cement mixer keeping the ship in battle rather than requiring a major refit.
"It takes three years to build a ship, it takes three centuries to build a tradition"
Admiral Andrew Cunningham
1941
Admiral Andrew Cunningham
1941
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land
Here is a Belgian writeup from Charlie Lewis!


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