Moderator: Harpoon 3
Two years ago, on June 14, 2006, this terrific game was released to the public. Now this game have four official patches (3.8, 3.9, 3.92, 3.93) and improved pretty a lot since its release. It's also certain that H3ANW will become more and more playable and prefect. 
ORIGINAL: JRyan
Well since it shows more Issues after release, that would mean that more are playing and such and noticing the bugs so that they can get fixed. I look back to the original windows conversion times and realize just how far we have come. Amazing isn't it? For those of you who remember just how difficult it was to run H2AE under windows and the problems that presented with CTD's all the time. Remember the "Save your game and save it often"? Well now these types of crashes are not occurring at near the frequency of those days. Now, it getting down to modifying the "guts". We have come far indeed. Thanks to all those that made it possible.
Happy Birthday Harpoon![:D]
ORIGINAL: koelbach
And it is simply not ok to tell the database developers that they should implement a workaround for the bugs (so that unarmed hostile units are treated as hostile) - AGSI has to patch it in the code. We have paid for it !
ORIGINAL: koelbach
Addendum:
An explanation for newbies about typical differences between H3 3.6.X and H3 ANW 3.9.X - what are we "old" veterans are talking about:
1. Choose the original scenario "Attack on Kamchatka", Battleset "Global Conflicts 2"
2. Choose the Russian side
3. Make your recce birds (the Foxbats and the Bears) airborne.
4. Search and find the US CVBG.
5. Place your recce birds right on top of the carrier group.
6. Vector your bombers and subs in.
7. Finish the carrier group of with a coordinated missile strike.
8. Congratulations on your victory!
...but this is simply "wrong!"
..reboot...
..and now...play the same scenario under harpoon 3.6.X (if you have it or are lucky to find it a ebay):
0. Few minutes after the scen has started dozens of vampires appear right out from the fog of war - Tomahawks !
1. three of your four bases are hit; half of your aircraft are burning wrecks...
2. You make your remaining recce birds airborne.
3. You find the CVBG - great !
4. Instead of placing your birds over it, vectoring your assets in...your recce birds are blown out of the sky.
5. Your are on the egde of a humiliating defeat.
..and this is how this scenario was meant to work, guys. ..and how your optimism would have been punished in "real life". Yes, that Tomahawk strikes come and they come out of a clear blue sky. And yes, your enemy will not like your recce birds radioing his position to your forces.
Translated into the "weird behaviour discussion", we have found two major issues:
1. While in H3 3.6.X the carrier group on its transit mission fires its Tomahawks at the detected red bases, it does not fire a single one in ANW. That illogical behaviour alone shifts the odds and breaks the scenario.
2. While in H3 3.6.X a hostile unit is a hostile unit, ANW says: "Ok, there is a hostile Foxbat. But great - it only has cameras and no missiles! Thus I´ll not waste a single missile - please come over and take some nice photographs!"
ORIGINAL: FreekS
At the root of that appear to be mainly changed mission behaviours;
- SSKs in 3.9 in any mission never move faster than 'creep'; so little or no chance of an intercept
- Submarines on some missions will not attack unarmed merchant ships (what were subs built for?)
- Submarines on some missions will avade (go to flank speed and change course) torpedoes they fire themselves (not wire-guided)
ORIGINAL: hermanhum
IMO, one of the best ways to 'sell' your classmates on ANW is to have them come and play a multi-player game online. If they enjoy themselves, they will want to get the game. Since you already have a copy of ANW, they can just use your copy for a quick 40 min session.
Lots of old Harpoon players (and new) have had one session and been totally amazed at the challenge, realism, and fun of ANW MP. Some hate it, too. [:)]
At least it will give your friends an honest try at it. What have you got to lose but 40 mins of your time?
ORIGINAL: Taitennek
ORIGINAL: hermanhum
IMO, one of the best ways to 'sell' your classmates on ANW is to have them come and play a multi-player game online. If they enjoy themselves, they will want to get the game. Since you already have a copy of ANW, they can just use your copy for a quick 40 min session.
Lots of old Harpoon players (and new) have had one session and been totally amazed at the challenge, realism, and fun of ANW MP. Some hate it, too. [:)]
At least it will give your friends an honest try at it. What have you got to lose but 40 mins of your time?
[;)]
