V.4 - Crash: Need help!
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V.4 - Crash: Need help!
I've got a little problem here. I've upgraded from v2.3 to v4 and i'm not able to start a game!!! When i begin playing a scenario the game crashes to windows without any message!!!
In a campaign game it's the same, but there i'm able to deploy my troops. When i start the battle - the game crashes... can anybody help me???
In a campaign game it's the same, but there i'm able to deploy my troops. When i start the battle - the game crashes... can anybody help me???
My turn to make the mandatory 1st question 
Are you sure that you installed the patch with a correct pathname? The installer adds a subdirectory 'SP world at war' (or like that) even if you change the default install directory via the 'browse' option...
Voriax

Are you sure that you installed the patch with a correct pathname? The installer adds a subdirectory 'SP world at war' (or like that) even if you change the default install directory via the 'browse' option...
Voriax
Oh God give Me strength to accept those things I cannot change with a firearm!
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Sturm, as you now play froma a fresh full install then we can forget the possible path problems...I'm not a good person debugging system problems
I have had only one crash problem with SPWAW and it was fixed by Matrix gurus by silencing the fast artillery.
Perhaps if you'd give full details of your computer system some other persons who have experienced similar behaviour could seek common items.
Hmmm...do you have plenty of disk space? Perhaps it cannot create some temp file...any background stuff running? If yes, kill all of them and try again...
Voriax

Perhaps if you'd give full details of your computer system some other persons who have experienced similar behaviour could seek common items.
Hmmm...do you have plenty of disk space? Perhaps it cannot create some temp file...any background stuff running? If yes, kill all of them and try again...
Voriax
Oh God give Me strength to accept those things I cannot change with a firearm!
I had a desktop crash on turn 9 of The real thing scen. I have the full version installed playing on win me. I just started over from the autosave and everything worked fine. Must have just been a little glitch. Last I still can't beat those damn cadets. My men must have been drinking the night before. 
BomBeer
When you uninstalled you might want to check the registry and make sure all of the SPWaW entrys are gone then reinstall. Also what kind of video card do you have?
[This message has been edited by BomBeer (edited September 20, 2000).]

BomBeer
When you uninstalled you might want to check the registry and make sure all of the SPWaW entrys are gone then reinstall. Also what kind of video card do you have?
[This message has been edited by BomBeer (edited September 20, 2000).]
IYAAYAS
I too am having Crash problems. I am TRYING to play the SPWAW on W98se, Amd500mhz, 128mb RAM, ATi Rage Fury Pro 32MB, Vortex SQ2500 sound card. I have the version off the PC gamer disk I bought. Q3A demo, Q2, and other games work very well!?!. For SPWAW, I have done the following all to not avail...
1. Uninstalled/Reinstalled Game
2. Upgraded SoundCard Drivers
3. Uninstalled Reinstalled DirectX 7.0a
4. Used D-manager to turn graphic hardware acceleration OFF
5. Turned all game sounds OFF
6. Tried Game in 16bit Color
7. Checked for resource conflicts
8. Turned off unnecessary start up items
9. Deleted steel.prf
10. Changed Mech.exe to German mech.exe
I, like Sturmtiger would like to play this game. I am out of ideas
1. Uninstalled/Reinstalled Game
2. Upgraded SoundCard Drivers
3. Uninstalled Reinstalled DirectX 7.0a
4. Used D-manager to turn graphic hardware acceleration OFF
5. Turned all game sounds OFF
6. Tried Game in 16bit Color
7. Checked for resource conflicts
8. Turned off unnecessary start up items
9. Deleted steel.prf
10. Changed Mech.exe to German mech.exe
I, like Sturmtiger would like to play this game. I am out of ideas

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OK, here's my system. I have an AMD K7 at 700 Mhz, 256 MB RAM, ASUS V6800 32 MB and a Sound Blaster Live Player 1024 (newest driver installed for all components). I, like NOVA, have tried anything possible... Registry is clear after uninstalling SP 2.3 (which was working fine).
Too bad that I can't play this really fantastic game
But perhaps someone is a really crack and could solve this problem...
Too bad that I can't play this really fantastic game

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Something curious is going on here...
Through a mistake i installed the v4 upgrade without an earlier version of SP on my hard disk. And... IT WORKS!!! No crash at all!
My question - if no one knows another way - is there anything that i will miss, if i'll play the upgrade only??? Scenarios worked well but i haven't tried the campaigns...
Through a mistake i installed the v4 upgrade without an earlier version of SP on my hard disk. And... IT WORKS!!! No crash at all!
My question - if no one knows another way - is there anything that i will miss, if i'll play the upgrade only??? Scenarios worked well but i haven't tried the campaigns...
Question for Sturm,
You say version 4.0 upgrade. What do you mean. The complete game (343 megs) or only the 4.0 upgrade (143 megs). It would have to be the former because I don't think the latter can run by itself.
Which one, Sturm?
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Wild Bill Wilder
Coordinator, Scenario Design
Matrix Games
You say version 4.0 upgrade. What do you mean. The complete game (343 megs) or only the 4.0 upgrade (143 megs). It would have to be the former because I don't think the latter can run by itself.
Which one, Sturm?
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Wild Bill Wilder
Coordinator, Scenario Design
Matrix Games

In Arduis Fidelis
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Ut-Oh, we're going to have to get Rod Serling from Tech Support to work on this one! I can hear it now; "I submit, for your consideration, this upgrade from nothing ..."
Sturm - can you confirm that there is no version pf SPWAW of any type, on your entire PC. ie, on the D: drive or something? I'm wondering if it's updateing a second or backup copy you stashed somewhere.
Tommy
Sturm - can you confirm that there is no version pf SPWAW of any type, on your entire PC. ie, on the D: drive or something? I'm wondering if it's updateing a second or backup copy you stashed somewhere.
Tommy
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There is NO other Version of SPWAW nor SP1-3 on my hard disk. On NO partition! It was, but I deinstalled it like i wrote before...
Registry is also clean (no SPWAW entries) before installing ONLY the upgrade!
Curious is, that SPWAW V2.1 (with update to 2.3) works fine if it is installed, full game of V4 is not working. (I've installed it almost up to 10 times)
Registry is also clean (no SPWAW entries) before installing ONLY the upgrade!
Curious is, that SPWAW V2.1 (with update to 2.3) works fine if it is installed, full game of V4 is not working. (I've installed it almost up to 10 times)
Just to jump in here....
I also installed the 143Mb upgrade on a machine with no previous version of the game (100% certain of that) and it starts up ok. I haven't pursued the idea of playing right through a scenario as I assumed it would crash at some point, but I looked through the encyclopedia and played around a bit without it crashing!
By the way, on a technical note is it really a 143Mb file? My downloads indicated it was 136Mb - that is, 139,000kb, or 143,000,000 bytes - ie 143 million bytes, not 143 Mb! Is this correct? Can you clarify this, as it caused me to conclude that I had a fundamental download problem when it failed twice (IE5 terminated the download at 136Mb). In retrospect I think IE just had a timeout problem since there is a long delay between the last byte of the file arriving and IE confirming that it is ok - presumably its doing some sort of checksum...
Cheers
Bob
I also installed the 143Mb upgrade on a machine with no previous version of the game (100% certain of that) and it starts up ok. I haven't pursued the idea of playing right through a scenario as I assumed it would crash at some point, but I looked through the encyclopedia and played around a bit without it crashing!
By the way, on a technical note is it really a 143Mb file? My downloads indicated it was 136Mb - that is, 139,000kb, or 143,000,000 bytes - ie 143 million bytes, not 143 Mb! Is this correct? Can you clarify this, as it caused me to conclude that I had a fundamental download problem when it failed twice (IE5 terminated the download at 136Mb). In retrospect I think IE just had a timeout problem since there is a long delay between the last byte of the file arriving and IE confirming that it is ok - presumably its doing some sort of checksum...
Cheers
Bob
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GOT IT!!!
OMG, it was a lot of work, but my SPWAW 4.0 now works! Through the fact that the upgrade works but the full game doesn't, i started to copy all files missing in the upgrade step by step from the "full-game" into the "upgrade-folder". the game crashed as i copied the "snd"-folder and i found out that, if i renamed the "1002.wav" the game doesn't crash anymore when beginning to give orders. Due to the fact that 1002.wav is the menu-sound this sound doesn't work no longer - but this is a thing i can easily live with!!!
--- Sturmtiger is going to hunt now ---
OMG, it was a lot of work, but my SPWAW 4.0 now works! Through the fact that the upgrade works but the full game doesn't, i started to copy all files missing in the upgrade step by step from the "full-game" into the "upgrade-folder". the game crashed as i copied the "snd"-folder and i found out that, if i renamed the "1002.wav" the game doesn't crash anymore when beginning to give orders. Due to the fact that 1002.wav is the menu-sound this sound doesn't work no longer - but this is a thing i can easily live with!!!
--- Sturmtiger is going to hunt now ---