Zhukov's war

Josans · Post by **Josans** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:15 pm

For some of us a draw in 1945 its a victory for germans in WiR. dont you think the same? Im surprise!!!

PaxMondo · Post by **PaxMondo** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:42 am

Absolutely.  But, before his setback, King was in great shape to come out ahead.  So, his ability to salvage a draw after such a huge setback is amazing to me.  Tom is playing quite well too. But as I said, I know I could not have salvaged a draw from that setback.

Tom1939 · Post by **Tom1939** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:07 am

ORIGINAL: Josan

For some of us a draw in 1945 its a victory for germans in WiR. dont you think the same? Im surprise!!!

In our settings (possum and skipped first german turn) a draw is a clear german victory. In normal wir I would argue that, as the germans are just too good (42 and 43 summer the soviets can be still knocked out).

After the 43 summer victory I pushed real hard, but Kingtiger managed to defend it out while rebuilding much of his panzer force. Too good you have to say

I learned a lot from this game, and kingtiger did kindly teached me some more. Next time in possum as soviet I will have a few more mean tricks.

Great game, I enjoy this. I have the hammer to strike, but the enemy somehow always survives

And I really do throw everything on the germans.

DavidFaust · Post by **DavidFaust** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:49 am

I think 44 summer will decide the outcome of the war.

Germany will have a very tough time defending and trying to find troops to create a mobile defense/assult force. As in ww2, the war we be decided in the air.

Josans · Post by **Josans** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:22 am

ORIGINAL: Tom1939

ORIGINAL: Josan

For some of us a draw in 1945 its a victory for germans in WiR. dont you think the same? Im surprise!!!

In our settings (possum and skipped first german turn) a draw is a clear german victory. In normal wir I would argue that, as the germans are just too good (42 and 43 summer the soviets can be still knocked out).

After the 43 summer victory I pushed real hard, but Kingtiger managed to defend it out while rebuilding much of his panzer force. Too good you have to say

I learned a lot from this game, and kingtiger did kindly teached me some more. Next time in possum as soviet I will have a few more mean tricks.

Great game, I enjoy this. I have the hammer to strike, but the enemy somehow always survives And I really do throw everything on the germans.

Yes sorry Tom you are right. I posted thinking in ´43 and ´44 campaigns. Obviously in ´41 and ´42 campaigns the germans, with the Lorenzo House Rules, have a great chance to win. So if the soviets can stop Germany a draw should be given like a victory to the soviet. Well I think [8|]

Tom1939 · Post by **Tom1939** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:16 am

1944.02. 06.
snow

Soviet blitz failed in the north. We tried to encircle and surrender panzer korps in Vilna, but the flanks held on. Now we have a bridgehead in the last river before Rumania. Blizzard came.

Losses this week:

Axis/Soviet
1104/1081
62/380
375/372
26/215

Stavka

DavidFaust · Post by **DavidFaust** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:35 am

13.2.44
Blizzard

Our troops rest and await the up and comming Soviet attack. The Luftwaffle has sent large numbers to the south to discourage the VVS to support there army.

Germany can now boast to have 4000+ Panzers and 7000+ Fw109a's in the east.

Major reforms in the western fronts have just been completed and this will allow much more replacements to be sent to the east.

Tom1939 · Post by **Tom1939** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:41 am

1944. 02. 13.
Blizzard

Our 18.000 tanks continued to push the enemy back. We have 8200 la5fn defending them. Vilna has only one korps defending its back.

Losses this week:

Axis/Soviet

1338/1150
150/387
612/390
29/222

Stavka

DavidFaust · Post by **DavidFaust** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:16 am

20.2.44
Snow

5 Pz divisions that had been placed in reserve have now been comitted to the front. We hope these divisions will halt the Soviet advance.

The south looks like it will hot up.

DavidFaust · Post by **DavidFaust** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:17 am

AGC

DavidFaust · Post by **DavidFaust** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:18 am

AGN

Josans · Post by **Josans** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:26 am

Just wondered... I never have seen at this stage of the war a Pz korps, the XXXIX in Romania, with 395 of combat value!!! [X(] Amazing [:)]

PaxMondo · Post by **PaxMondo** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:34 pm

ORIGINAL: Josan

Just wondered... I never have seen at this stage of the war a Pz korps, the XXXIX in Romania, with 395 of combat value!!! [X(] Amazing [:)]

I wonder if this one of those famous 'fake' information campaigns? [:D]

DavidFaust · Post by **DavidFaust** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:55 pm

ORIGINAL: Josan

Just wondered... I never have seen at this stage of the war a Pz korps, the XXXIX in Romania, with 395 of combat value!!! [X(] Amazing [:)]

All of Germany's Pz korps have been split up so they can cover more of the front. Fullstrength SS Pz divisions are now being moved into the same korps in select areas. We plan to place all our SS Pz divisions in 2-3 korps when the rain comes.

I expect a fullstrength SS korps with support elements to have a CV of 450. I would be very happy if I could form 2 Pz korps this strong for some late war blitzing.

I made a mistake taking my screen shots by giving the Soviets free information about my troops positions. I would of prefered the Soviets found this formation the hard way.
I pridict the VVS will attack this Pz korps with full force...

DavidFaust · Post by **DavidFaust** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:56 pm

I wonder if this one of those famous 'fake' information campaigns?

It seems you know me very well and we have not played!!

PaxMondo · Post by **PaxMondo** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:31 pm

Not so good, I couldn't [and still cannot] think of the german for "maskarova"!

Tom1939 · Post by **Tom1939** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:55 am

ORIGINAL: kingtiger_501

ORIGINAL: Josan

Just wondered... I never have seen at this stage of the war a Pz korps, the XXXIX in Romania, with 395 of combat value!!! [X(] Amazing [:)]

All of Germany's Pz korps have been split up so they can cover more of the front. Fullstrength SS Pz divisions are now being moved into the same korps in select areas. We plan to place all our SS Pz divisions in 2-3 korps when the rain comes.

I expect a fullstrength SS korps with support elements to have a CV of 450. I would be very happy if I could form 2 Pz korps this strong for some late war blitzing.

I made a mistake taking my screen shots by giving the Soviets free information about my troops positions. I would of prefered the Soviets found this formation the hard way.
I pridict the VVS will attack this Pz korps with full force...

If hordes of fw's guard it, we will deal with the Luftwaffe. If air cover is weak, then the hungry tu2 will make a visit just for introduction

Tom1939 · Post by **Tom1939** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:12 am

1944. 02. 20.
snow

This week near Tarnapol the XXIV. panzer korps was forced to surrender after the VVS softened the flanks. It was not too strong, but good for start. In the north german panzers massacred our attack again. The south was peacefull, only one german infantry korps was forced to retreat by our tankers.

Losses this week:

Axis/Soviet

2134/880
349/331
740/274
300/522

Stavka

Morphy · Post by **Morphy** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:36 pm

combat value 385, 8200 La-5FNs, 18.000 tanks... gee... sounds really impressive...

DavidFaust · Post by **DavidFaust** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:07 am

Just wondered... I never have seen at this stage of the war a Pz korps, the XXXIX in Romania, with 395 of combat value!!! Amazing

Why is that Josan? Its only 6 SS Pz divisions for a fake screen shot

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