New Pattern DC devices

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Buck Beach
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New Pattern DC devices

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Sid, I may have discovered that the new subject devices are not being utilized. I have sent you a save game and combat report that shows there were 3 attacks but neither of the 2 DD TFs ( that have not replenished) show that their DC loads are depleting. The previous turn had also reflect a couple of attacks and those TF also show no DC used. In Townsville their is a two ship ASW DD TF that has just replenished and it shows each have a full Ammo load of 5 for comparison. The two TFs on top of the sub at 50-115 are the two that have just attacked and you can see they both still show full loads.

Sorry if I am wrong here but it sure looks like this may be part of the problem.
el cid again
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RE: New Pattern DC devices

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can you show them being expended in any other mod or previoius to the change edition of RHS?

I did not change slots - just the name - which is cosmetic - and the value for accuracy - even effect remains because it was using what seems to be the stock definition (which probably we should change to sq root of warhead - but I did not change it - it remains charge in pounds)

Further - I can show it is being used on planes - of all things. So the device loads and drops.

Expendature is an accounting thing - and may or may not indicate use. Just because it is used does not mean the accounting is right.
I do see attacks.

But I do not see messages - except on planes - so maybe they are not dropping???
Buck Beach
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RE: New Pattern DC devices

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ORIGINAL: el cid again

can you show them being expended in any other mod or previous to the change edition of RHS?


I did not change slots - just the name - which is cosmetic - and the value for accuracy - even effect remains because it was using what seems to be the stock definition (which probably we should change to sq root of warhead - but I did not change it - it remains charge in pounds)

Further - I can show it is being used on planes - of all things. So the device loads and drops.

Expendature is an accounting thing - and may or may not indicate use. Just because it is used does not mean the accounting is right.
I do see attacks.

But I do not see messages - except on planes - so maybe they are not dropping???

I don't think I have a previous version saved game, however, I am almost positive they were used up as I remember. A short patrol in the past would not expend my total endurance but I would have to return to load DCs (which is cool). Could be just a dream but it is something for you to think about. There are several things I am waiting for before I start a new game and this is a big one. In the meantime I will just plug along.
Buck Beach
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RE: New Pattern DC devices

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ORIGINAL: el cid again

can you show them being expended in any other mod or previoius to the change edition of RHS?

See the save game and combat report from a RHSCAIO 7.7894 game I just sent you.

I did not change slots - just the name - which is cosmetic - and the value for accuracy - even effect remains because it was using what seems to be the stock definition (which probably we should change to sq root of warhead - but I did not change it - it remains charge in pounds)

Further - I can show it is being used on planes - of all things. So the device loads and drops.

Expendature is an accounting thing - and may or may not indicate use. Just because it is used does not mean the accounting is right.


I do see attacks.

But I do not see messages - except on planes - so maybe they are not dropping???
el cid again
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RE: New Pattern DC devices

Post by el cid again »

There are several possibilities:

1) ASW devices only report when there is a hit

2) ASW devices used by SHIPS won't work if the name is too long a string; that they are used by planes
may only mean code does not consider them ASW devices - just a form of bombs - they do report as bomb hits

3) ASW devices are like land bombardment devices - with a minimum value or they are ignored - which
is typical Matrix but silly - requires extra code to prevent use of what might be valid field values

Since I am working on a test bed for Russia- I will test ASW too
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