Dan,
Both you and John need to slow down to only one or two turns per day for some time and allow the emotions of the last few weeks of game time (since you left Iwo Jima with this invasion force) to work themselves out. I got part of the PM he just sent you and feel that a slow down will help sort things out. I told him basically the same thing via PM and on his AAR.
Semi-Retired Japanese Economics Minister Benoit
but, full time counselor [:D]
Gentlemen, I just received an email from John as follows:
"The war is done. Despite everything things are now cast. Your 100s of LASER-EYE 4EB did the job that no Carrier planes could..."[/align] [/align]I haven't looked at anything yet, but my heart is racing. I think my plan worked...[/align] [/align]
Wait a minute..he sinks a hundred Allied ships..thousands of soldiers and sailors and Marines are lost at sea...nearly a thousand carrier aircraft and many hundreds of pilots.. half a dozen CVE's and CVL are lost, one CV wrecked, captured airfields are without support personnel, supply is critical, a division is cut off, your carriers still dont have aircraft and you have no transports to bring in supplies.......and he is going to pick up his marbles and go home? [X(] [:D]
Despite the massive Allied losses taken in this invasion, the point spread has narrowed a bit. There will be some fluctuations - the Allies will lose Sapporo and 950 points in all likelihood, but will pick up some points for CV Hiryu.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
Gentlemen, I just received an email from John as follows:
"The war is done. Despite everything things are now cast. Your 100s of LASER-EYE 4EB did the job that no Carrier planes could..."[/align] [/align]I haven't looked at anything yet, but my heart is racing. I think my plan worked...[/align] [/align]
Wait a minute..he sinks a hundred Allied ships..thousands of soldiers and sailors and Marines are lost at sea...nearly a thousand carrier aircraft and many hundreds of pilots.. half a dozen CVE's and CVL are lost, one CV wrecked, captured airfields are without support personnel, supply is critical, a division is cut off, your carriers still dont have aircraft and you have no transports to bring in supplies.......and he is going to pick up his marbles and go home? [X(] [:D]
Durn, CAP, you really pay attention to what's going on. Please, PLEASE don't send your thoughts to John. It will renew his energy and drive.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
Dear Reader, I have delivered an offer of armistice to my opponent as follows:
John,
I don't know about you, but I am exhausted. I was totally useless today at work. I went for a long run up Lavender Mountain this evening to sort through things and here's what I come up with:
I offer you an armistace on the following terms:
1. We declare an armistice and stalement, with neither side winning or losing. It's a tie!
2. What I get out of it is the satisfaction that I didn't lose despite the horrible hole you put me into at the beginning of the game.
3. What you get out of it is the satisfaction of not enduring the massive Allied build-up and onslaught and the decline of your hard-earned Empire.
4. The Allies agree to end the oil embargo.
5. The Japanese agree to withdraw from China, but may keep their pre-war territory in Manchuko and Korea.
6. Other than that, both sides revert to pre-war territory.
7. We then invade Russia; the Japanese get to keep all Russian oil, natural gas, and coal. The Allies get all precious metals and Russian babes.
8. Neither of us ever has regrets over ending the game.
9. Neither of us ever claims or implies that we wish we hadn't quit the game because we probably would have won. We both agree that we had plans, resources, and problems unique to both sides and that unforeseen events could have destroyed the best laid plans and derailed the most unstoppable momentum. IE, we mutually agree that the outcome of the game was uncertain and that ending the game now was in our mutual best interests so that we can resume a normal life.
10. I get to start my sabbatical from gaming to see if I can reclaim a sane lifestyle.
11. You get to turn your focus to other things or to a fresh new game in which you can make sure the Japs run amock as only you can do.
12. To prevent second thoughts and second-guessing, we immediately exchange passwords. That will eliminate any temptation to renew the game (God forbid!). Or, we can both send our passwords to NYGiants and he distributes them when he has them both.
13. As soon as we both say, "I do" we may read each other's AAR. That ought to take some time and open some eyes.
14. If you do not wish to enter into an armistice, I solemly pledge to continue devoting the same time and energy to the game until the mutually agreed upon end or imposed ending. IE, I won't drag my feet.
What say you, kind, noble, and most capable opponent?
Dan "Canoerebel" Roper I'm half afraid he'll accept my offer and half afraid that he won't. He has requested time to consider this. I'll keep you posted.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
I don't know about you, but I am exhausted. I was totally useless today at work. I went for a long run up Lavender Mountain this evening to sort through things and here's what I come up with:
I offer you an armistace on the following terms:
1. We declare an armistice and stalement, with neither side winning or losing. It's a tie!
2. What I get out of it is the satisfaction that I didn't lose despite the horrible hole you put me into at the beginning of the game.
3. What you get out of it is the satisfaction of not enduring the massive Allied build-up and onslaught and the decline of your hard-earned Empire.
4. The Allies agree to end the oil embargo.
5. The Japanese agree to withdraw from China, but may keep their pre-war territory in Manchuko and Korea.
6. Other than that, both sides revert to pre-war territory.
7. We then invade Russia; the Japanese get to keep all Russian oil, natural gas, and coal. The Allies get all precious metals and Russian babes.
8. Neither of us ever has regrets over ending the game.
9. Neither of us ever claims or implies that we wish we hadn't quit the game because we probably would have won. We both agree that we had plans, resources, and problems unique to both sides and that unforeseen events could have destroyed the best laid plans and derailed the most unstoppable momentum. IE, we mutually agree that the outcome of the game was uncertain and that ending the game now was in our mutual best interests so that we can resume a normal life.
10. I get to start my sabbatical from gaming to see if I can reclaim a sane lifestyle.
11. You get to turn your focus to other things or to a fresh new game in which you can make sure the Japs run amock as only you can do.
12. To prevent second thoughts and second-guessing, we immediately exchange passwords. That will eliminate any temptation to renew the game (God forbid!). Or, we can both send our passwords to NYGiants and he distributes them when he has them both.
13. As soon as we both say, "I do" we may read each other's AAR. That ought to take some time and open some eyes.
14. If you do not wish to enter into an armistice, I solemly pledge to continue devoting the same time and energy to the game until the mutually agreed upon end or imposed ending. IE, I won't drag my feet.
What say you, kind, noble, and most capable opponent?
Dan "Canoerebel" Roper
It should be quite obvious that I and probably all the other readers of your and Canoerebels AAR would not be happy if you decided to call the game a draw. On the other hand I understand very well how much time this game can consume, how demanding it can be and how it can affect real life.
Either way, the two of you provided a hell of a show and I'd like to thank you both for hours of great entertainment. Thank you John and Dan. [:)]
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The above is what I just posted in Johns AAR. Just thougth you should see this as well.
Regarding item 7 I wanted to ask if you're going to share some of the babes with us readers. I mean there must be millions of them and propably you cannot make use of all of them, right? [;)]
If you gained knowledge through the forum, why not putting it into the AE wiki?
The above is what I just posted in Johns AAR. Just thougth you should see this as well.
Regarding item 7 I wanted to ask if you're going to share some of the babes with us readers. I mean there must be millions of them and propably you cannot make use of all of them, right? [;)]
Okay, as long as my babe is Lara from Dr. Zhivago, I'll equitably distribute other babes among the fine folks who inhabit the forum. However, I'm not bequeathing one to CapMandrake because I'm afraid Stalker Girl would be pissed and might turn on me.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
Too bad to see you guys stop (since this was one of the most interesting AAR's I've read in quite a while), but if you guys are done, you gotta stop. Way too much gets invested in a game like this to drag it out if it's not fun anymore (for either party).
We're not done yet. John is still mulling over the offer. I'm still half-afraid he'll accept it. If he doesn't, we will proceed and I'm actually very anxious to see if I can get my carriers up and running again (I think I can!). If he does, I'll announce it here.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
John hasn't given me his decision about the armistice offer yet. He may well decline it. I really hope he does. Neither of us wishes to halt the game from a gaming standpoint.
My desire is motivated by the extraordinary amount of time and attention the game takes. It's affecting every aspect of my life because I enjoy it so much.
So, you say, how about playing in moderation? Well, I apparently have no self-control when it comes to this game.
I expect to hear from John soon. Truly, I hope he decides to reject the offer.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
John hasn't given me his decision about the armistice offer yet. He may well decline it. I really hope he does. Neither of us wishes to halt the game from a gaming standpoint.
My desire is motivated by the extraordinary amount of time and attention the game takes. It's affecting every aspect of my life because I enjoy it so much.
I have really enjoyed this AAR, hope it continues. I think this format is one others should copy, (with Dan's permission), high-level, concise, cuts out all the Combat.TXT files where you lose the big picture.
You are right about WITP. Family, Work, Health, then WITP, sometimes hard to keep priorities straight.
Maybe you should join WITPA. "Hello, my name is Dan, and I haven't sent a turn in 2 months" Clap Clap Clap.
It appears that the obstinate Japanese are prepared to decline the Allied armistice offer. I'm still awaiting transmission of the final communication to that effect, but unless I'm misreading signs, this war shall continue.
John and I are discussing playing at a more moderate pace. The only trouble with that is that I don't have any self-control when it comes to WitP. However, since my game with Miller ended yesterday, that ought to help with time-management a bit.
I am very glad John declined the armistice offer. I really want to see what happens from here on out. I'll give you the final word as soon as John sends it to me.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
"Once more into the breach!" [:D]
I, and many others, will be thrilled to see the show go on, Dan. I'm having trouble keeping up with reading the AAR's, so I can only imagine how much time, effort, and stress go into actually playing it! [:D]
1) Replenish aircraft on carriers.
2) Get supplies and base force personnel to Toyahara, a level 6 airfield.
3) These first two objectives should give the Allies an opportunity to strike the Japs hard around Hokkaido.
4) Determine if my troops can stand at Sapporo (or possibly Wakkanai) on Hokkaido and do whatever I can to maximize the defenses.
5) Begin arranging for supply and fuel convoys to head toward Shikaku; and for damaged ships and emtpy AKs to head back home from there.
6) Do whatever is needed to strengthen the new bases in the Aleutians.
7) Watch out for Jap CVs patrolling the supply lines between Midway/Hawaii and Shikaku.
8) As new ground units arrive in San Francisco, begin to prep for new objectives. Likely target: either Marcus Island or the Society Islands.
9) The Aussies will work on taking Broken Hill, where the Japs are present in numbers and well-dug in.
10) For the foreseeable future, the major Allied offense will take place in Sumatra and Malaya. Troops at Port Blair, Tavoy, and Rangoon and vicinities are prepping for many bases there. Invasion of Victoria Point to commence as soon as the troops that chased the Japs out of Rangoon a hex (and thus are now bogged down on a yellow road) return to Rangoon; invasions of Georgetown and Sabang to follow closely thereafter.
11) China: Do nothing but hold my ground.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
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