SP:MBT Mouse problem!

Alby · Post by **Alby** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 1:36 am

works fine on windows ME as well

scimitar · Post by **scimitar** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 8:53 am

Paul,

I confirm my comment on this topic: I'm just waiting DEFINITIVELY for CL and the modern module(s)...

Les_the_Sarge_9_1 · Post by **Les_the_Sarge_9_1** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 3:05 pm

Hey Mikimoto you mean there really is life outside of Matrix?:D

I wasn't aware of that heheh

Alas I have discovered through investigation I am likely responsible for my own amazement at those numbers of downloads (having Getright on all night whacking the snot out of that page trying to get in will do that). Noit sure I am glad though. I was kinda liking the idea there were more gamers out there potentially.

So now I must confess I have clumsily and inadvertantly created a potential non stat.

Until someone can produce an equal to Matrix's accomplishment though, I suppose, I will have to assume there is no one outside of Matrix that has my attention.

It's not that Matrix is better, they just do it better.

It's not about loyalty, its about backing the winner in some cases.
And I have stopped picking at that scab heheh.

Les_the_Sarge_9_1 · Post by **Les_the_Sarge_9_1** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 3:58 pm

Often the problem is the game is just an old game and your machine is a modern variant, and the two get along like you and your little sister:D

The solution is often, assume that you can't change your little sister, and you have to just play the game in her world eh.

That analogy is meant to say, often you have to run older games in older OS environments.

I cracked this problem by installing Win98 on a secondary partition.
My Steel Panthers 3 for instance runs fine (but it still thinks it is playing on my old computer).

For what it's worth, all I have seen has me convinced, that Steel Panthers WaW is the only older wargame worth mention that ever grew up.
So if you like hanging out with old games, get used to hanging out in older OS's.

Mikimoto · Post by **Mikimoto** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 5:54 pm

That's Ok, Les

This is a free world...

Regards
Mikimoto

Grenadier · Post by **Grenadier** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 7:04 pm

Even Dale Higt cannot get his mouse to work with SPMBT:eek:

young turk · Post by **young turk** » Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:04 am

it's a very good game, and it runs fine on my xp laptop.

SPWAW has it beat in terms of graphics and "touches", but the AI of the camo group is much better, and for me, makes up for the flaws.

And for those of you who think WW2 has been done to death, here is your answer.

MacCready · Post by **MacCready** » Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:09 am

That is indeed good news,now if I can just get the game downloaded from thier server.:rolleyes:

Mikimoto · Post by **Mikimoto** » Wed Jun 19, 2002 12:00 pm

When moved, you mixed Gbotto600 thread and mine in one. Just curious...

Regards
Mikimoto

Supervisor · Post by **Supervisor** » Sat Jun 22, 2002 8:48 am

That was I, I merged threads and then moved them as the discussion in both were headed in the same direction as people download and then ran into problem. I just wanted to keep them both on common ground.

screamer · Post by **screamer** » Sat Jun 22, 2002 4:40 pm

mouse works fine, but it every few minutes completely freezes

stevemk1a · Post by **stevemk1a** » Sat Jun 22, 2002 10:12 pm

My SPMBT works fine until the Arty phase of turn two then it locks up with a repeating sound effect. it locks up even earlier with digital sound disabled, and I also can't seem to access the game help files (It can't find netscape.exe even though I have it). The little bit I played was fun though....

Brigz · Post by **Brigz** » Sat Jun 22, 2002 11:28 pm

After reading all these messages, I have to conclude that the best op system for running wargames is definately Win98SE. I've got Win98SE on my Pent III and it runs just about everything perfectly. I downloaded SPMBT with no hitch, installed it with no problem. It created a shortcut on my desktop and ran fine from the get-go. All the help files work as does the sound which was the only thing I had to configure and that was nearly automatic. Contrary to the SPMBT install instructions, I didn't have to configure a shortcut, the install did it for me. Win98SE runs just about all wargames except for a very few, and I'm pretty sure I can get them to run if I want to work at it.

Not trying to brag, and maybe I'm just one lucky gamer, but if you want a stable gaming op system use Win98SE, or do what Les has done and use it as a second op system.

Easy8 · Post by **Easy8** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 12:03 am

I run Win2000 Pro on my desktop and XP Pro on my notebook. Both run Windows friendly games fine, but I have had problems with DOS games. I'm gonna kit-bash a Win98 system out of parts in my garage specifically to run the old SP DOS 4GW based stuff.

Karnaaj · Post by **Karnaaj** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 4:24 am

OK, after getting SPMBT downloaded, I had the great ^%$*&%$ fortune to find that I was infected - *not* due to SPMBT, note - with three copies of a backdoor (AceBot) and thirty *!* instances of Chernobyl. Needless to say, it was only last night that I finally installed and tried this puppy out...

OK. No sound... my Audigy isn't SB-compatible? <G> No prob, I can live without it. Ooooh, that auto-config'd shortcut *worked*! Let's blow stuff up! US versus Chechnya, yeah, that sounds good... 1972, sure. Late M60s, TOW-Cobras, TOW squads, scout jeeps, snipers, scout teams, a .50 cal... opposed by an HQ unit. Uh-huh. Hmmm, mebbe I should pick the opponents *after* I set the date... <G> kinda wondered about what would happen there, as the Chechen flag disappeared when I went back in time.

OK, less finagling. US vers Czechoslovakia, 2002. 5 M1A2s. One TOW team. Two heavy snipers. And a smattering of Flame Rocket AT squads. *That* was a bit more balanced, compared to the first run - Mi-24s (gee, guess I shoulda bought the Air Defense guys, huh?), BVP2s ("V"? OK, whatever) and OT-90s, updated T55s with ATGMs (so much for balance, huh?), an 82mm mortar team, and an annoying wad of Mech Infantry, AT and RPG teams, some Strela dudes, a couple marksmen... end result: 1 immobilised M1A2. Oh, and a whole lot of destroyed Czechs. <heheheh> Note: that flame rocket will *happily* kill a Hind. The other one retreated off-map after taking a lot of MG fire from the tracks.

Whee! How about a pregenerated scenario? '89, Ivan versus the West Germans. (The first one, I think, at the bottom of the listing of scens.) Lepoards (sp?) and Fuchs and Marders, oh my! Milans, Stingers, Gepards, PanzerGenadiers, Pioneers, Jaeger Squads, M113 mortar carriers, snipers, observers, and Tornados, with a couple HOT-ATGM choppers that show p as reinforecements. Ivan, never one to *under*do it, sends an obnoxious amount of arty (203mm, BM-21 rockets, et *OW* cetera), followed by a bunch of fixed-wing ground-attack *YEOWCH*, paving the way for the Mongol Horde of BTRs, BMDs, BRMDs, BMPs, and some other cans stuffed chock full o' Boris *YEEEK*. Oh, don't forget the historical parade of tanks: T62s, T72s, T80s, all in various models and some with reactive armour. *whine whine whine* You hardly even notice the 4 (probably more) Mi24 Hinds, ZSU flakwagons, SAM carriers, Spetznatz squads. Luckily, Fritz gets reinforcements. Unluckily, you'll wish it was a whole lot more...

That one, I seemed to be winning on points - I think it was over 72 Sov tracks versus 12 of mine, when I surrendered (c'mon, it was 4 AM!), bt they still had a %^&*(ing lot of visible units out there - and I had jack for manuever room and reserves.

So, what's it mean? It's not shabby... can't tell on the AI yet, meself, but it didn't seem to do some of the things I've taken advantage of <G> in SPWAW. <shrug> Lots of stuff to play with, in the area of hardware and countries. Being a Matrix fanboy, tho, I have to give down-marks for the graphics - I *love* the higher res. <G> I also missed some of the "goodies" like right-click rally-max. Sound? As soon as I get it enabled, I'll see. As I recall, I was a little disappointed with the SPWW2 sound (and graphics/goodies) as well. (Even without installing the Stereo Sound upgrade.)

I'd say, grab it if you want the modern aspects. It's small (even if the FTP is crowded <G>), seems to be stable (on my box - 98SE reinstalled with regular 98 and in general weirded out), and, uhm, it's *free*. Free stuff gets a few extra points all to itself... Matrix knows this. <G>

Note: I've not played SP1, 2 or 3 meself; own SP3, but it reliably crashes horribly on bootup, so I've never actually *played* the sucker. Did a lot of Close Combat 2, 3 and some 4, and East Front II/West Front/Rising Sun. A very little bit of (demo) Combat Mission (got me to buy it, tho <G>), and one try of People's General. <shrug> This data presented only for the purposes of explanation of my views/narrowmindedness regarding this game. <G>

MacCready · Post by **MacCready** » Sun Jun 23, 2002 7:03 pm

Dave Briggs:

How right you are,for some reason alot of people think you have to keep upgrading thier systems every time a new os is released,what they don't understand is present gaming software does not require anything beyond win 98se.

XP is not needed,period.
also unless your running the latest stuff,you dont need a superfast processor either.

kevsharr · Post by **kevsharr** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 4:18 am

I've been lambasted over at the wargamer site for my sacreligeous view's of why one would put out a program that will not run on modern systems,I've been called a smelly troll for not toeing the line and saying how great this program is,so much for free speach it's only free if you agree with the majority,I guess i'm a rogue bull and like Nitchke said a rogue must be eliminated before he infect's the rest of the HERD.I have downloaded SP-ww2 and SP-mbt neither of which will run on my P-4 1.5 with TnT2 not exactly state of the art!But I got told why was I whining it was for free!Who cares if SP-WaW was to cost 40.00 I'd pay it,I've paid for every other game I've got.If it's free and does'nt work it might as well not exist as far as I'm concerned right? Of course when I said this at wargamer I got told by Dale"Oh certainly you should stick to SP-WaW it's just right for you"like it was runner-up to Dale's premo program,I'm sorry I'm no b**t-kisser I call a spade a spade,It doesn't work for me and I should be entitled to my opinion or has freedom and liberty eroded that much since 9/11?

Lars Remmen · Post by **Lars Remmen** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 12:44 pm

You don't seem to understand that it isn't what you said (which isn't true by the way - SP:MBT will run on mordern WinXP systems) but the way you said it that got people upset. And then you get all excited about freedom of speech... Freedom of speech has nothing to do with relationships between persons in general. It is about government -><- the individual. Do you really think that IRL you can be rude to your host without any kind sanctions? And do you think you can act differently on the Internet?

If you get your facts straight and use a friendly tone in your critisism I'm quite sure you're welcome at the Wargamers board.

Regards,

Lars

Brigz · Post by **Brigz** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 7:34 pm

Kevshar said,

"It doesn't work for me and I should be entitled to my opinion or has freedom and liberty eroded that much since 9/11?"

I do understand your frustration with trying to run SP:MBT on your system, but I must respond to your above quote.

I think you misunderstand freedom of speech. You have every right to say what you want and apparently you did. Others have a right to respond to your comments, even if they say something that pisses you off. Did anyone threaten your life, libel you, or ban you from posting on the forum? If they did, that would be erosion of your liberties. Do you really believe that freedom of speech means you can say anything you want and no one is allowed to criticize you? Sounds to me like you are the one "eroding" freedom and liberty by expecting everyone to read your posts and keep their mouths shut. I, for one, revel in the fact that others can criticize me and point out my bombastic statements. It means I can do the same. Like I just did with your post. These are public forums, not your own private soap box.

Now, if you are not a hypocrite, you won't respond to this or criticize me, because according to your viewpoint since 9/11, you would then be eroding my "freedom and liberty."

Les_the_Sarge_9_1 · Post by **Les_the_Sarge_9_1** » Sun Jun 30, 2002 1:38 am

I don't know why I am writing this post, but the word "freedom" usually gets me freaked out.

But I have to at least say one thing.

An opinion, regardless of how obnoxious, remains no more annoying than junk mail, telemarketers and conventional ads on TV. It's always easy to ignore it.

Opinions only become dangerous when they are spoken by persons we assume are commenting officially, and are doing so with purposeful intent to alter the facts.

Not one single poster here on the Matrix site, will bother me with revisionist statements. Try that in a public school though, and I will have you struggling to remain employed.
That is meant to sound confrontational.

Just as it is the right of each and every citizen (of my country at least) to say and think what they wish, it is not the right to force those views on others.

The only risk of saying something idiotic on the forums here though, is to lose credibility, and get asked to get lost.

An idiotic statement of course is always open to debate.
But it's usually obvious when a person has said something idoitic.

SP:MBT Mouse problem!

OK

Mixed posts?

Agree with Dave...