The Jap CVs decided to fuel on the 14th though I had set the order for them not to.
Ideas, comments, etc...
Hi John, still following along and greatly enjoying your game!
Just a comment about this item. Everything I've read indicates that the "Do Not Refuel" setting for a TF only applies to refueling at a base. There is no way to prevent a TF from refueling the escorts from it's capital ships at sea. The only way to really get around this is to set a destination outside attack range of the enemy, and then manually order your TF to refuel the escorts, before you count on them to be ready for combat action.
Despite my protestations, Dan thinks I have lost interest in the game. This is driving me nuts. If I wanted out I would simply say so and hand the campaign off to anther player like I did with Mandrake.
I have 3 weeks until I find out about my Sentencing and since there is still a chance I could be yanked out of my home, I am spending as much time with my family as possible. Had the joy of putting in a sprinkler system yesterday and today. I am sore! The renewed priorities has necessitated slowing down our campaign.
We just finished the 1/16/1944 turn and I will do an update tomorrow morning. I still have all my economic notes as well for posting since I know Michael and Damian are curious! [8D][8D]
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
FINALLY! Here is December's Production and VP Information. As soon as I get January's done it will be posted behind this one:
[font="times new roman"]December 1, 1943 [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Victory Points and Economic Summary[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Victory Points:[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Score[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Japan 43,118 (Up 2 Points)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Allies 25,640 (Up 1,284 Points)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]This month has had a lot of notes lost to the crazy December that followed.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Ships Sunk[/font] [font="times new roman"]Japan 487—4,648 VP (up 95)—I lost 14 ships sunk during November. [/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Major Japanese Vessels Sunk to Date---CV Junyo and Hiyo, BB Fuso and Yamashiro, BC Kirishima and Haruna, 5 CA , 9 CL, 49 DD, and 30 SS (24 I-Boats and 6 Ro-).[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font] [font="times new roman"]Allies 777---9,176 VP (up 174)---Dan lost a total of 21 ships for the month of November. [/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Major Allied Vessels Sunk---CVs Enterprise, Lexington, Hornet, Wasp and Intrepid, CVL Langley, 1 CVE, BBs Colorado, West Virginia, Idaho, Tennessee, Arizona, Prince of Wales and Alabama, 11 CA, 7 CL, 50 DD, and 22 SS.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"] [/font] [font="times new roman"]Manchukuo Garrison---8,028---Down 54---(8,000 Needed)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Political Points---267[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font] [font="times new roman"]Units Transferred: [/font]
[font="times new roman"]No notes but I remember transferring a China Division to 4th Fleet[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Industrial Report[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Supply 2,315,431[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Fuel 1,005,051[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Manpower 832 (1,348,457)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Heavy Industry 15,181 (236,170)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Resources 19,299 (2,088,132)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Oil 2,323 (370,900)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]HI increase went from 180,000 to 236,000! Thanks everyone for the help. Repaired 53 Oil Centers.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Shipyards[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Naval 1,366 (1,995) [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Merchant 981 (6)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Repair 1,508[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font] [font="times new roman"]Carriers [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Katsuragi (121 Days)--Accelerated[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Kasagi (476 Days)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Aso (519 Days)[/font] [font="times new roman"]Ikoma (526 Days) [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Ibuki (481 Days)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]BB Musashi completed[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Weapons[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Armament 572 (58,046)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Vehicles 179 (10,917)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Aircraft[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Engines 2,250[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Assembly 1,477+(173-Rd)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Engines increased by 70 and production dropped some with airframes as I shift research into the big 1944 planes I need.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Engine Production[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Mitsubishi 711 (69)—Need 597—1,673 in Pool[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Nakajima 1,199—Need 988---1,037 in Pool[/font] [font="times new roman"]Kawasaki 260---Need 258---194 in Pool[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Aichi 80---Need 98---193 in Pool[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Pools are increasing in both Mitsubishi and Nakajima.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Plane Production[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Fighters Planes/Month (in Pool)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M2 0 (193)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M3 0 (61)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M3a 0 (230)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Oscar 0 (205)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Oscar IIa 0 (173)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tojo 0 (139) Shut down this plane’s production.[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tony 0 (117)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Jack 174 (564)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M5c 50 (132) [/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M5 269 (2)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Oscar III 22 (102)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Ki-61 Tony 258 (95)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]N1K1 George 52 (2)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Frank 1a 57-Rd (08/44)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Frank 1c 19-Rd (12/44)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Am shifting around a lot of airframes as I have groups training in China and elsewhere and then redeploying into the fights.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Bombers[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Betty 0 (473)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Betty 2 74 (5)[/font] [font="times new roman"]Frances 103 (44)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Sally 0 (123)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Helen 84 (43)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Peggy 62-Rd (9/44) Production moves forward one month.[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Lily 40 (96)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Nick-a 10 (0)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Nick-b 12 (0)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Val 0 (547) [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Kate 0 (280)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Judy 98 (9)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Jill 103 (20)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Grace (6/44)[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font] [font="times new roman"]Frances kicks into strong production. Thankfully I had overproduced so many Betty, Val, and Kate to reconstitute various airgroups.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Recon/Float[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Emily 20 (6)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Alf 0 (13)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Pete 0 (74)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Pete A 0 (54)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Rufe 23 (20)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Glen 4 (41)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Dinah 0 (13)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Irving-R 35 (89)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Irving-S 23 (22)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Jake 0 (70)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Babs 0 (0)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Dinah-3 39 (4)[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]I was running at a significant shortfall for recon planes of all sorts but that begins to correct itself this month.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Transports[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tina 0 (42)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Sally 0 (1)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Topsy 7 (16)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Mavis-L 5 (11)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tabby 0 (83)[/font]
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
...and the most recent month...
Damian and Michael--Take a look and let me know what you think on the economics.
My naval losses in DDs is HORRIFIC! I have accelerated any DD under 125 Days to get them in as fast as possible.
[font="times new roman"]January 1, 1944 [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Victory Points and Economic Summary[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Victory Points:[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Score[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Japan 48,641 (Up 5,533 Points)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Allies 31,920 (Up 6,280 Points)[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]A monstrous slugfest over Northern Japan raged for the entire month. These totals include the recapture of Sapporo but not the elimination of American forces in Hokkaido. The changes in numbers is staggering for a 31 day period of time! [/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Ships Sunk[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Japan 575—6,422 VP (up 1,674)—I lost 88 ships sunk during December. Naval losses in destroyers is TERRIBLE. These were my losses: CV Hiryu, CVL Chiyoda, BB Nagato, Mutsu, and Musashi, 2 CL, 36 DD, 5 SS, 5 PC, 5 MSW, 18 AK, 7 AP, and 6 ML.[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Major Japanese Vessels Sunk to Date---CV Junyo, Hiyo, and Hiryu, BB Fuso, Yamashiro, Mutsu, Nagato, and Musashi, BC Kirishima and Haruna, 5 CA , 11 CL, 85 DD, and 35 SS.[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font] [font="times new roman"]Allies 1,052---12,271 VP (up 3,095)---Dan lost an amazing 275 ships for the month of December! Exact Losses are staggering: CVE Altamaha, Copahee, Prince William, Liscome Bay, BB Oklahoma, North Carolina, Mississippi, CA Astoria, Chester, CL Juneau, 15 DD, 10 SS, 4 DE, 175 AK, 11 LCI, 8 MSW, 17 AP, 4 LSD, 43 LST, 14 AO, 2 AV, 1 AS, 2 AR, 1 AD, 1 APD, 25 LCT, 1 AGP, 1 TK, and 1 LCM [/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Major Allied Vessels Sunk---CVs Enterprise, Lexington, Hornet, Wasp and Intrepid, CVL Langley, 5 CVE, BBs Colorado, West Virginia, Idaho, Tennessee, Arizona, Prince of Wales, Alabama, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Mississippi, 13 CA, 8 CL, 65 DD, and 32 SS.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"] [/font] [font="times new roman"]Manchukuo Garrison---9,087---Up 1,059---(8,000 Needed)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Political Points---274[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font] [font="times new roman"]Units Transferred: [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Numerous Infantry Units to 4th Fleet[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Industrial Report[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Supply 2,364,451[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Fuel 906,842[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Manpower 756 (1,384,120)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Heavy Industry 15,100 (277,710)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Resources 18,885 (2,135,292)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Oil 2,371 (522,843)[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]HI continued to increase from 236,000 to 277,000. I repaired 48 Oil Centers as well. The impact of losing Sapporo and Sakhalin wasn’t near as great as I feared it might be.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Shipyards[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Naval 1,366 (20) [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Merchant 981 (0)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Repair 1,439[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font] [font="times new roman"]Carriers[/i] All CVs are accelerated.[/i][/font]
[font="times new roman"]Katsuragi (59 Days)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Kasagi (414 Days)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Aso (457 Days)[/font] [font="times new roman"]Ikoma (464 Days) [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Ibuki (419 Days)[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Finished a CL and 9 DD last month.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Weapons[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Armament 572 (49,058)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Vehicles 179 (9,986)[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Aircraft[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Engines 2,139[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Assembly 1,535+(232-Rd)[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Engines dropped some due to the Allied attack but they will recover quickly. Research climbed 70 points as the 1944 planes begin to get more attention. [/font]
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[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Engine Production[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Mitsubishi 600 (20)—Need 637—1,552 in Pool[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Nakajima 1,199—Need 1,041---1,191 in Pool[/font] [font="times new roman"]Kawasaki 260---Need 258---198 in Pool[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Aichi 80---Need 98---174 in Pool[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Mitsubishi took a serious hit with the loss of Sapporo but is now rebuilding.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Plane Production[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Fighters Planes/Month (in Pool)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M2 0 (77)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M3 0 (0)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M3a 0 (73)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Oscar 0 (190)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Oscar IIa 0 (173)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tojo 0 (78) Shut down this plane’s production.[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tony 0 (25)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Jack 174 (393)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M5c 59 (189) [/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M5 283 (0)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Oscar III 32 (42)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Ki-61 Tony 258 (13)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]N1K1 George 52 (32)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Frank 1a 82-Rd (08/44)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Frank 1c 33-Rd (12/44)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M8 2-Rd (06/45)[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Am shifting around a lot of airframes as I have groups training in China and elsewhere and then redeploying into the fights.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Bombers[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Betty 0 (476)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Betty 2 74 (25)[/font] [font="times new roman"]Frances 118 (65)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Sally 0 (0)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Helen 84 (72)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Peggy 77-Rd (9/44) One month early.[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Lily 40 (117)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Nick-a 10 (0)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Nick-b 12 (0)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Val 0 (465) [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Kate 0 (129)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Judy 98 (19)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Jill 103 (25)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Grace (6/44)[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font] [font="times new roman"]Frances continues to increase production. Bombers still look solid and I have large reserves of Naval Bombers. Army Bombers are a bit more shaky…[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Recon/Float[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Emily 20 (14)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Alf 0 (3)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Pete 0 (99)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Pete A 0 (39)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Rufe 23 (18)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Glen 4 (45)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Dinah 0 (2)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Irving-R 24 (73)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Irving-S 23 (35)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Jake 0 (63)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Babs 0 (0)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Dinah-3 52 (5)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]C6N Myrt 14-Rd (03/44)[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Continue having issues keeping up my Recon planes![/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Transports[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tina 0 (18)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Sally 0 (1)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Topsy 14 (3)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Mavis-L 5 (10)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tabby 0 (74)[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]I have lost a bunch of Transports this month and have to replenish them. I may reinstitute some production to build these back up to decent levels.[/font]
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Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
What kind of DD's do you have left? You should have somewhere around 60 or so still. How many of those are Special Types (Fubuki and higher), vs. the old fleet DD's (Kamikaze, Minekaze, Mutsukis) which are semi-useful depending on role, and the small/old DD's (Momi, Ootori, Tomozuru, Wakatake), that are really mostly ASW escorts?
If your 60 left are mostly older, you are REALLY in a bind. It helps if they are alot of newer ones.
The IJN starts with 21 2nd class DDs (Ootori etc), 34 old fleet DDs, and 69 Special Types. You probably have built about 7 Akizukis, and maybe 15 more Yugumo/Kageros.
One of the interesting things playing Japan is you have to learn to use limited resources. With the DD's, you really have to assign missions that play to their capabilities.
Q-Ball poses a set of good questions and thoughts. To answer some of them: I have lost most of my 2nd and 3rd rate DDs but the attrition has been so bad that my modern DDs are just too few in number. I must have 15-20 repairing in Home Island ports as well.
My cruisers are in fine shape as well as my CVs, however, I am down 5 BB/BC now with 3 heavily damaged getting repaired. The Fleet is a disaster. I can still field a respectable force but really feel constrained...
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
You can send me a recent turn so I can plug it into Tracker (I'll have to upgrade it to the latest version first) and post some screenshots. it will make it easy to make comments from there.
Great idea. I will send you a copy of the turn as soon as I get it from Dan. Look around for pools of resources and oil. I think I have been doing really well picking all that up but could always use help and suggestions...
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
I've put back on my Economics Minister's hat for a day. Here is a list of Resources within the empire.
John - you have only 14k worth of supply at Balikpapan to continue repairs of your Oil Centers. That is only 4 or 5 days worth. You will need to send some supply there.
John seems to be doing a pretty good job so far...
Some initial points:-
[*]Armament needs to be increased a tad.
Production -> 21K + 14K = 35K
Out -> 34K + 18K = 52K
So I'd increase to about 350 / day
[*]He could turn off Veh assembly altogether if desired, until more is required, but then again I can only see 90 Days...
[*] Merchant Shipping is getting very late, I agree with John here he needs to turn on some Merchant ship building (which I see he has done)and then prioritise what is needed.
[*] Naval is doing what John intends and when CV Katsuragi goes down the slips, he can decide what else he needs.
[*] He could turn off 167 Nakajima Engines ... for a while if he wishes. Or does he want money in the bank ?
[*] Why is he repairing 110 HI ? We don't have enough Oil for the HI we currently have (2447*6=14682 HI)??
[*] Similarly stop repairing the Res Cntrs.
Res 20166 * 1.25 = 25207 - (Manpower 788 * 10 = 7880) = 17300 HI Capacity.
[*]HI usage currently looks around 11K, with a surplus of about 3K a day, Increasing the Arm will pull another 1200 HI (6*(350-157)) ... Oil is still the priority.
How do the regions look for Oil and Resources ?
If I've made mistakes I apologise but I just put in a hell of a day! If I have further thoughts I'll post..
Considering since Michael last looked at all this stuff that I lost Northern Japan and have then retaken it, I think the situation is pretty good.
Michael--If you get the chance can you show ships repairing in the Harbors? If you can it will show just how bad off the Fleet is after all that fighting.
Michael--Is there any place with large amount of resources and/or oil that I have missed? I THINK I've been collecting it all but one never knows...
There is a convoy carrying 30,000 supply heading to Balikpapan. Should be there within a week or so.
I'll raise armaments some but intend to keep engines going so I can stockpile them.
When Katsuragi comes down the ways, I will shift all her buuilding points into DDs and try to get back to stockpiling some points.
Anyone else see anything significant? Comments? This is a much a Japanese Economic AAR as anything else.
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
John,
I agree your economy is much better than I expected after the last month ...but please don't waste those supplies repairing things your won't use & don't need (RES & HI).
Lastly if Michael had two consecutive turns he could see if there are any outstanding economic alerts ...
John,
Here is the screen shot of damaged warships. There are another 10 not listed with only a couple heavily damaged DDs.
Resources - Look at the screen shot I posted (I sorted by Resources). Bangkok has a significant amount and I would say to load at Saigon and allow the AI to pull them down for ya. It may mean you need to micro-manage each turn (tell the AI to load Resources). Another Resource rich base is Kendari.
I have a Question probably more related to the tracker not the game.
How comes BB Ise (among other vessels) has a speed of 0 albeit SysDmg is 20, alas not quite crippled? Is the speed column showing the current speed of a TF rather than the maximum speed the vessel could do in current condition?
If you gained knowledge through the forum, why not putting it into the AE wiki?
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