Only 12 days until Fallout3

[Greybriar]

Does anyone know what type of copy protection Fallout 3 will have? I wouldn't want to buy it only to discover it has StarForce or some DRM similar to what Spore and Mass Effect have.

[Perturabo]

IIRC they said it's CD-check only.

[V22 Osprey]

Fallout 3 looks like crap to me.I would save my money for releases that are actually worth it.They even had Fallout 3 special on G4's X-Play.Should've had Gears of War 2 special if you ask me.

[Lützow]

The french review says it all. F3 will become a shooter for retarded mainstream gamers with low attention span and yet another cash cow for Bethesda. I hate this, particulary with regard to RPG's had been my second favorite genre after strategy.

Fortunately I still own most of old school Bioware/Interplay titles, including Fallout 2.

[doomtrader]

I just read that the X-box version scored 10/10.
Really don't know what to think about it.
 
Could you Americans let us know how good/bad the game is.

[JudgeDredd]

wth is Fallout?

[doomtrader]

Are you kidding?

It's the best cRPG ever (at least one of the best)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_(computer_game)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_2

[JudgeDredd]

yeah...doesn't look like something I'd be interested in. [:D]

[doomtrader]

I completly understand that there are some people not interested in Fallout, but I didn't thought that the old generation dont know this title.
 
My son is 13 and it looks like he won't play Fallout 1 & 2, it's to ugly for him. But yeah F3 looks so great, this flying corps parts.
Where this world is going to?

[Perturabo]

Fallout 1 ugly? Heresy!

Fallout 3 is ugly.

[ASHBERY76]

This and Fable2 will keep me busy on the 360 for a while.

[Arctic Blast]

ORIGINAL: ASHBERY76

This and Fable2 will keep me busy on the 360 for a while.

I'm hoping Fable 2 lives up to the possibilities after the first was a bit of a disappointment. If only Peter Molyneux didn't seem unable to keep from running his mouth before releasing a game, expectations wouldn't get so high to begin with.

[doomtrader]

It looks like it is not so great.
 
Just readed about two reviews for 9/10

[Perturabo]

Only 9/10? It must certainly be crap. A really good game should have 14/10[:'(].

[NefariousKoel]

11  These guys are 11.

[:D]

[Hertston]

ORIGINAL: doomtrader

It looks like it is not so great.

Just readed about two reviews for 9/10

'Spore' at Metacritic;

Average of 66 'critic' reviews; 84%. Average of 1,018 reader reviews, 45%. That's all you need to know about 'reviews', folks [;)]

[mc82]

ORIGINAL: Hertston

ORIGINAL: doomtrader

It looks like it is not so great.

Just readed about two reviews for 9/10

'Spore' at Metacritic;

Average of 66 'critic' reviews; 84%. Average of 1,018 reader reviews, 45%. That's all you need to know about 'reviews', folks [;)]

The PC Gamer Spore review was a real classic in relation to the "paid off magazine/review site" phenomenon. It was 3 or 4 pages about how the game failed to live up to expectations, and was nothing but a dumbed down series of rudimentary mini-games in each stage (a "basic RTS game", "Civilization for dummies" or something like that, and etc)...

Then suddenly turned into: "But it's totally awesome! The graphics are great and it's charming and fun! Don't think of it as a game you're trying to win, think of it as a toy!"

That's right folks, challenge sucks! Well, maybe not, but that sounds like the general trend in PC games today.

On the Fallout 3 topic, I fully expect the game to be a huge, mainstream hit just like Oblivion, and draw in hordes of FPS fans now declaring themselves to be "totally hardcore RPGers doodz", all the while also being a giant blasphemy to the memory of the classic Fallout games. I'd like to hope myself to be wrong, but nearly all of the previews of F3 have given me exactly this impression- and this time, it doesn't even feature soil erosion.

[doomtrader]

Released in USA,
Anybody played?

[Fallschirmjager]

Let me preface this with I played both the orginal Fallout games
I played Fallout 6 months after it's release and Fallout 2 the day of it's release. So I know all about the legacy of the games.

I very much wanted a sequel and each year that passed without one was heart wrenching. Fallout 2 was one of my top 5 favourite games of all time afterall.
When Vam Buren died along with Black Isle/Inerplay it was the end of the Golden Age of CRPGs.
Baldurs Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape Torment (another of my top 10 games) and of course Fallout
The late 90s/early 2000s were RPG heaven

When I read that Bethesda had acquired the Fallout liscence I had my share of trepidations. They immediadtly made it be known that the series would be changing.
I really did not like Morrowind all that much. In fact, I hated it.

Oblivion came along after that and after all the good reviews I got it for my X-Box.
I must admit I really did enjoy it. But I still worried about Fallout. I did not like the enemies leveling up along with your character. I did not like the lifeless world or the combat which I found lacked any punch.

Then around early spring I decided to count my blessings that a sequel was in fact being made. I mean, much better a bad sequel be made then no sequel at all.
So I guess I realized that the prospect of a 2-D isometric Fallout 2 much like Fallout 3 died with Van Buren.

So flash forward to now. I pre ordered a copy of Fallout 3 for my X-Box and picked it up last night at a midnight launch (which was a lot of fun, someone brought a laptop with them to show the 'kids' what Fallout 2 looked like [:D] )

It is now 10:17 PM EST and according to the ingame statistics I have logged 9 hours of game time today.

The game is fantastic on it's own merits.
Yes it is a action RPG and not turned based. Yes it feels mu.ch like a slow paced RPG.
Yes it has some of the shortcomings of Oblivion.
But I enjoy it nonetheless

So in short, once I stopped whining about what I wanted the game to be and started accepting the game for what it is I realized there is much to enjoy.
It is one of the best games I have played this year and with some time for prospective I might rank it among the best I have ever played.

So again I know I am wasting alot of typing by putting this in a wargaming forum. But if some gamers would get over themselves and look beyond decade old game design they will find gems where they did not think they would exsist.
So I challenge Fallout fans like myself to do what I did. Start accepting Fallout 3 for what it is and give it a clean slate and judge it without bias and go into it knowing it is a completly different creature.
I think you will find that it belongs right beside the first two games in the series.

[Perturabo]

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

I think you will find that it belongs right beside the first two games in the series.

Look, I found a secret sequel of WitP!
Try it, it's really fun. I think you will find that it belongs right beside the first two games in the series.