Greetings

Lokioftheaesir · Post by **Lokioftheaesir** » Tue Jun 25, 2002 1:56 pm

Hi All

Am a long term player of WarInRussia who has defected to a more interesting arena.
Have some smarts and have just started two pbem games as Japanese.
Would welcome any comments on how to do well as Nippon Empire. Have read hints from Rich Diones
PacWar page but am unclear in Nagoya? Should most DD/De/Pc go there? Frequent shifting of HQ locations seems to help. Best use of Recon Planes also would be good. In Games with AI have never made more than 8000 on oil reserves. (any hints)
(Yes i'm a 'Rising Sun' player.)
Basically i know there is a LOT of players out there who play US only. I am here to learn how to
end up owning LA. (hehe)

Loki

Capt. Harlock · Post by **Capt. Harlock** » Tue Jun 25, 2002 11:39 pm

Just about every DE and PC you own should go to Nagoya, to form a pool for ASW escorts for your Routing Convoys. DD's are a question, since they're very useful for many other things, including "Tokyo Express" runs to isolated troops. It depends on how well the Allied subs are doing, and usually they won't do well for the first six months of the game. Patrol planes should be put on the bases covering the routes from Sumatra and Borneo to Japan, to cover those vital oil convoys.

As for taking LA, against a half-way competent human player--it can't be done.

Lokioftheaesir · Post by **Lokioftheaesir** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:14 am

Originally posted by Capt. Harlock
Just about every DE and PC you own should go to Nagoya, to form a pool for ASW escorts for your Routing Convoys. DD's are a question, since they're very useful for many other things, including "Tokyo Express" runs to isolated troops. It depends on how well the Allied subs are doing, and usually they won't do well for the first six months of the game. Patrol planes should be put on the bases covering the routes from Sumatra and Borneo to Japan, to cover those vital oil convoys.

As for taking LA, against a half-way competent human player--it can't be done.

Capt. Harlock

Thanks for the reply and the advice. I'll make sure all De/Pc go to Nagoya and what you mentioned
pretty much lines up with where i put the Recon
aircraft. (on the coasts of the line running Sumatra/Japan)

Of course the comment on taking LA was not serious. A realistic player (i am that) will
realise that Japan would be doing famously if
it can simply hold the perimeter taken in '42.
This is where PacWar is superior to WiR. In that
game if you have done the right things and organised well you can pretty much forsee what will happen over the next year. In PacWar a series
of unfavourable Naval/Air engagements can shift
the ballance of the game in just a few weeks.
(you might say the 'pucker factor' is much higher)

All the Best

Loki

Capt. Harlock · Post by **Capt. Harlock** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:25 pm

You shouldn't settle for historical results. Holding the perimeter is extremely difficult, because by mid-1944 the USN carrier TF's become just about invincible. The massive CAP and flak that a well-put-together TF can throw will prevent almost any airstrike from doing serious damage. That's why the Japanese use kamikaze squadrons--your pilots aren't coming home anyway.

(Another point: in the versions before 2.3, it's a good idea for the Japanese to take Port Moresby. Once the Australian divisions start joining the SW Pacific HQ, if the Allies have a toehold on New Guinea, they can eventually reconquer everything. And then Sorong and Morotai make good jumping-off bases for Borneo and the Phillipines. However, in 2.3 and later, there is no continuous path to march up.)

You want to do as much damage as you can before spring 1943. One of my favorite strategies was to seize Anchorage and Juneau. Anchorage helps the oil supply, and from Juneau you can strike Seattle with your Betty squadrons. (Alas, I never managed to significantly damage the B-17 factory.)

Lokioftheaesir · Post by **Lokioftheaesir** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:40 am

Originally posted by Capt. Harlock

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You want to do as much damage as you can before spring 1943. One of my favorite strategies was to seize Anchorage and Juneau. Anchorage helps the oil supply, and from Juneau you can strike Seattle with your Betty squadrons. (Alas, I never managed to significantly damage the B-17 factory.)

Capt. Harlock

Yes the assets the US can put together in 44 onward are no fun for the Axis. I guess i'll just
have to act in accordance with what assets i have
and the insights i have gained as to how the US
Player operates.
The comment on the Aleutians is interesting.
I look at them with the same ideas as you proposed
but i better keep my mouth shut as opponents may have spies scanning this forum.

All the best

Loki

varjager · Post by **varjager** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 9:08 am

I wonder if this information should get back to HQ.Japs planing to bomb our factorys? That is madness,just plain madness.
Loki i am watching your steps.

deVada · Post by **deVada** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 10:27 am

Hi !
According to the Japanese plans for capturing Los Angeles - I agree that playing against a semi-orientated Allied player may under certain circumstances have result in capturing LA.
The only way to do that is as soon as possible get all naval forces, all AP's, all MCS ships and all troops concentrated on Marcus Island or Eniwetok - capture Hawaii and attack West Coast until the mid of 42, before there are many US divisions. Capturing Java, New Guinea can wait, or be done by smaller forces. Singapore should fall anyway cutten from RCS. Capturing India is almost impossible anyway due to problems with supplying Rangoon and Akyab so I thing that while playing against Allied human attacking US and Hawaii is the only way to win a war at all.
By the way - I've been playing as Japanese for few years using the first version of the game, then the 2.3 now 3.0 and I've never been noticing problems with moving my ships, even if my fuel reserves oscilated near zero.

Best wishes - kick those **** Allies out of our Great Pacific !

henhute6 · Post by **henhute6** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 12:46 pm

I thought that Los Angeles would be too hard nut to crack. In one game enemy was too strong in LA and I occupied San Diego instead. After that Helen bombers visited regularly in LA at night.

I agree that capturing Hawaian islands ensures victory. It's easy to control sea lanes to and from US after that. I use Midway as stepping stone enroute to Pearl Harbour.

Henry

Lokioftheaesir · Post by **Lokioftheaesir** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 3:39 pm

Originally posted by varjager
I wonder if this information should get back to HQ.Japs planing to bomb our factorys? That is madness,just plain madness.
Loki i am watching your steps.

... bloody US spies everywhere.
Set, i dont think you would do any good as a spy in Japan.
I think a Swede would stand out a bit.

Loki

PS. I do'nt know about the Aleutians now. Maybe
cutting of Australia would be a better stategy.

varjager · Post by **varjager** » Fri Jun 28, 2002 9:04 am

Loki my friend,i would go undetected since i am a swede.I would blend in with a charming smile and a bottle of Vodka!

It is a painkiller just to try and save what can be saved.Since all are wars against eachother you should know that i dont like wasting troops or planes.But in this game i am forced to.

You cant touch Australia yet.It is your own home country Loki.That would be just plain mean man.I have a better solution for you.Go for Pearl again!

Lokioftheaesir · Post by **Lokioftheaesir** » Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:03 pm

Originally posted by varjager
Loki my friend,i would go undetected since i am a swede.I would blend in with a charming smile and a bottle of Vodka!

It is a painkiller just to try and save what can be saved.Since all are wars against eachother you should know that i dont like wasting troops or planes.But in this game i am forced to.

You cant touch Australia yet.It is your own home country Loki.That would be just plain mean man.I have a better solution for you.Go for Pearl again!

Set

Ah yes, a blond Swede waving a bottle of vodka as he stumbles down Main street Tokyo. In fact as a
neutral country you could well do that. The more you drink, the more you could get away with. (and
you would get away with much more if it was Saki)

Ah yes, that great curbuncle in the Mid Pacific.
Pearl..............

I didnt say attack Australia, just cut it off.
You think i want to blow up my own house?

Loki

varjager · Post by **varjager** » Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:24 pm

Loki,i dont have doubt that you would nuke Australia in our game if you would gain from it.You are a hard player to play against.
I am not so sure about that they Japs would be so forgiving for a Swede being drunk on the main streets of Tokyo.Swedes have a tendensy for being realy drunk and patriotic when we are abroud!

Some where around in the pacific there is a TF with your name on it.Whree can it be? Those nasty US CVs.

screamer · Post by **screamer** » Fri Jun 28, 2002 2:01 pm

i always prefer to get PH early on, if its gone USN will have to base their navy on the west coast, and thats a big bummer

Capt. Harlock · Post by **Capt. Harlock** » Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:25 pm

About deVada's comment on fuel: maybe the IJN won't get stranded at sea if the Oil Reserve runs low, but there are some other major penalties. First of all, the number of Preparation Points depends directly on the number of units in the National Oil Reserve. If you're planning on wide-ranging offensives, you need those PP's. Second, oil affects victory points. If the National Oil Reserve falls below 10,000, the Japanese production VP's for are halved. Thirdly, the Japanese economy is ravenous for oil, as all modern economies are. If the National Oil Reserve stays below 4,000 for a significant time, your Heavy Industry factories will shrink. And eventually, the other factories will follow. I haven't been able to confirm this in the docs, but I seem to recall that if the Japanese Production VP's fall below a certain level, you won't get the Kill Point multipliers in '44 and '45.

Bottom line: if you want to prevent the Stars and Stripes from flying over Tokyo, you want oil-and the more, the better!

Lokioftheaesir · Post by **Lokioftheaesir** » Sat Jun 29, 2002 3:29 am

Set

Nuke Australia!! Only the heartless capitalist
behemoth uses such evil weapons

Capt. Harlock
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"If the National Oil Reserve falls below 10,000, the Japanese production VP's for are halved. Thirdly, the Japanese economy is ravenous for oil, as all modern economies are. If the National Oil Reserve stays below 4,000 for a significant time, your Heavy Industry factories will shrink. And eventually, the other factories will follow."
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Ah..so.. Very usefull information.
What it will mean in game terms is that i will put a cap on my oil reserves at 15000 and do everything i can to keep it above that (leaving 5000 for buffer)
In the few games i've had with the AI i let oil
reserves slide low. Obviously not a good strategy when playing a live opponent who wont be throwing
forces at me piecemeal (my last game against the AI had US CV losses at CV6 CVL7 CVE2 to Jap losses
of zero CV's by the date sept1943)

Loki

varjager · Post by **varjager** » Mon Jul 01, 2002 11:12 am

Loki my friend,dont put a cap on your oilreserv.Use it.There is always alot of oil for you! I wouldent be saying this otherwise.Go for it !!!!!;) Nuke on my friend...............when time comes i will nuke all that i can.

Capt. Harlock · Post by **Capt. Harlock** » Tue Jul 02, 2002 11:21 pm

Always a lot of oil? I wouldn't be so sure. It depends on the version of the game that you're playing. For instance, in V. 2.3, Pearl Harbor has been given Oil points, but the Oil at Rangoon has been moved to Mandalay. (How we're supposed to get it from a landlocked base is more than I know.)

BTW, I have been able to confirm what I thought about the Japanese Kill Point multipliers. It's not in the original manual but on the "Data Card" included with the SSI game. If the Japanese Production Points drop below 500, the Kill Point multiplier goes away. Mind you, that is a VERY low production level. In order to drop that far, the Allies will have to capture some Japanese cities, or use the Atom Bomb at least twice.

One other point worth knowing: The Allies get a 20,000 VP bonus if they capture Tokyo, and 5,000 each for Nagoya and Osaka.

How is the war going?

varjager · Post by **varjager** » Wed Jul 03, 2002 9:01 am

The war is going as the Japs want it at the moment! That evil emperor Loki,has his forces taking base after base.I have tried to strike with small TFs where his are not.But i have lost some minor ships so he is still ahead.Me and Loki have been playing WIR against eachother before so i have no doubt that he will start to make some mayor damage to me soon.Do you have any tips or advice to offer?

Capt. Harlock · Post by **Capt. Harlock** » Wed Jul 03, 2002 11:20 pm

Tips or advice? Hmm, I thought I was helping Loki. Well, to be fair I guess I should provide something for the Allied side. Check your Dutch LCU experience -- it varies depending on which version of PacWar you're playing. Anything below 35 is pretty much VP's waiting for the Japanese to harvest them. Before the AZOC's shut off Dutch Indonesia, you should try to evacuate the weaker LCU's to Australia. (The Phillipine units are in the same category, but attempts to evacuate them usually lead to disaster.) Also, make him fight for Rangoon--but base your air units on nearby bases, not on Rangoon itself.