Anyone seen a bug like this?

[HansBolter]

Two nights ago I was doing a turn in one of my PBEM games.

I was about to order my 4 remaining US carriers (lost two earlier) to pounce on a Japanese CV TF NW of Nevea.

I examined my CV air squadrons to ensure they all had the desired settings.

I discovered that two of my carriers had some how acquired two fragmented squadrons each meaning they now had 6 squadrons aboard.

They were not fragments from the earlier lost carriers as that battle happened months ago and the fragments are all at land bases.

The fragments were of the squadrons based on the carriers. The fragments had zero planes in them so I couldn't transfer them off the carriers.

The truly bizzare thing was that each of these fragemnts had twin engine bombers of the A20B Havoc type????

Given that they had zero planes in them, I was not over capacity for the carriers even though all the full squadrons were fully fitted out.

However, I was leary of whether or not the 5 squadron limit for air operations aboard a carrier was going to keep any of my squadrons from flying. Is this a UV limitataion or a WitP one, playing both games I am starting to get rules mixed up a bit sometimes.

I didn't want to get a screenshot and post it here as it would reveal too much intel to my opponent.

I bit the bullet and decided to go ahead with the operation hoping for the best.

I just got the turn back and I can't tell for sure is all four carriers woth of air squadrons participated or not. There do not appear to be a very high number of sorties on my part, so I suspect that maybe only two of the carriers particiapted. It was still sufficient to get the job done as my opponet has thrown in the towel.

Here is the combat report: Does it look to you like four carriers worth of air squadrons participated, or only two?

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/29/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Night Time Surface Combat, near Gili Gili at 17,42

Japanese Ships
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 19, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Chicago
CA Australia
CL Hobart
DD Mugford
DD Ralph Talbot

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 82
Guns lost 2


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Naval bombardment of Gili Gili, at 17,42

Japanese Ships
SS I-1, Shell hits 1, heavy damage

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 4
Port supply hits 3


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-R Irving x 1

no losses


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Air attack on Nevea , at 50,43

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-R Irving x 1

no losses


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Air attack on TF at 45,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 20
SBD Dauntless x 46
TBF Avenger x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 7 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 13 damaged
TBF Avenger x 6 destroyed
TBF Avenger x 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Zuiho, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CS Chitose, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


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Air attack on TF at 45,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 13
TBD Devastator x 13

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 1 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 2 damaged
TBD Devastator x 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Chikuma, Bomb hits 1
CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Abukuma, Bomb hits 2, on fire


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Air attack on TF at 45,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 41
SBD Dauntless x 58
TBD Devastator x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 5 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 5 damaged
TBD Devastator x 1 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 1 damaged

WO C.Matsuyama of CII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 5

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
CS Chiyoda, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Yudachi
CL Abukuma, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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Air attack on TF at 50,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
D3A Val x 22
B5N Kate x 26
E13A1 Jake x 13

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 77

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 4 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 2 damaged
D3A Val x 10 destroyed
D3A Val x 13 damaged
B5N Kate x 19 destroyed
B5N Kate x 3 damaged
E13A1 Jake x 5 destroyed
E13A1 Jake x 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged

LCDR J. Gray of VF-6 is credited with kill number 4

Allied Ships
CV Hornet, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Meredith
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 3
CA Louisville, Torpedo hits 1


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-R Irving x 1

no losses


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Air attack on Irau , at 42,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 13

no losses

no losses

Attacking Level Bombers:
4 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on Irau , at 42,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 1 damaged

Runway hits 1

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on Nevea , at 50,43

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-R Irving x 1

no losses


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Air attack on 29th Regiment, at 50,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 12
SBD Dauntless x 5
A-24 Dauntless x 5

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 1 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 2 damaged
A-24 Dauntless x 1 damaged

LTJG W.Gilbert of VB-2 bails out and is RESCUED

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 10


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Air attack on 29th Regiment, at 50,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 11
B-26B Marauder x 43

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell x 1 destroyed
B-26B Marauder x 1 destroyed
B-26B Marauder x 1 damaged

PO1 J.Morita of F1/6th Daitai is credited with kill number 3

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 34

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
6 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
11 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
6 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
7 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
8 x B-25D Mitchell at 8000 feet

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Air attack on TF at 50,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
D3A Val x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 80

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 3 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged
D3A Val x 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4 damaged

CPO H.Handa of BII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 4

WO C.Matsuyama of CII-1 Daitai bails out and is CAPTURED

Allied Ships
DD Fanning


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[fuelli]

Its a known bug. It usually happens when a fragment of CV squadron is flown off the carrier and then back to the carrier. It disappears usually after a few days or weeks. Have not noticed yet if this will influence carrier operation.

[anarchyintheuk]

Looks like four torpedo squadrons launched (55 out of a max of 57 if one of your carriers is the Wasp/60 if not) and your sbds too (117 out of a max of 138/144 - 10-20% search).

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

Looks like four torpedo squadrons launched (55 out of a max of 57 if one of your carriers is the Wasp/60 if not) and your sbds too (117 out of a max of 138/144 - 10-20% search).

Yea and 80 Wildcats on CAP for that last enemy sorty. Looks like the phantom A20s didn't keep my boys from flying.

[DEB]

ORIGINAL: fuelli

Its a known bug. It usually happens when a fragment of CV squadron is flown off the carrier and then back to the carrier. It disappears usually after a few days or weeks. Have not noticed yet if this will influence carrier operation.

But how does that explain the "Part Squadron" being A20's? [&:]

[Kingfisher]

Because the A20 is the default graphic used when fragments get lost in base shuffles.
As Fueli said, it corrects itself in time.