
FITE Chambers vs Fulkerson
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- larryfulkerson
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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
A little further south of the above shot I came to the realization that even if I took the next 10 turns or so to encircle and destroy a small line of Soviet troops he will just replace them with more.


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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
Here's the moves minimovie from turns 16 throu 20:


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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
And now a series of close-ups starting at the north sector:


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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
And the next sector to the south:


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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
And the next sector to the south:


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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
And the next sector to the south:


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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
And the next sector to the south:


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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
I believe I destroyed 14 Soviet units in turn 20: all infantry types. Here's the Axis losses so far:


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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
Here's the north half of the front lines:


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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
Here's the south half of the front lines:


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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T20
Nothing changed at Odessa ( again ) and I'm beginning to think it's not going to for a long long time. I need more arty or some tanks or a nuclear bomb or something. Those guys deserve metals for holding out in the face of repeated attacks for weeks now. I've tried using all the combat support ( aircraft ) that's available and all the railroad arty and both together at the same time and nothing is budging those guys. There's only three Soviet arty pieces there and they must be some big guns or something like that. I hate to attack at "ignore losses" settings because of the much much higher losses but I may have to to get some progress out of my guys. I've seen units evaporate when on "limit losses" settings so I've been attacking at "minimum losses" settings. Maybe that's the problemo.
Anyway, I've put together a loss history of the HRS squads and I thought you might find it mildly interesting:

Anyway, I've put together a loss history of the HRS squads and I thought you might find it mildly interesting:

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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T21
So um.......I'm minding my own business when all of a sudden one of my MP units near Kiev goes into reorg during the last combat round of turn 20. I open the moves from Curt and loe and behold I find ALL my MP units are in reorg, even those near Leningrad and those in the Ukraine.
So, all you scenario designers out there.....maybe you should break your formations down into bite-sized chunks so that 40+ units don't go into reorg when only one of them does.

So, all you scenario designers out there.....maybe you should break your formations down into bite-sized chunks so that 40+ units don't go into reorg when only one of them does.

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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T21
From the manual
"Formation quality is the average of the formation's proficiency and average assigned unit quality. Formation quality is reduced if many units are divided. The formation passes the quality check if this value is greater than a random number from 1 to 100, or if the number of units that experienced severe combat results in the previous turn is smaller than a random number from 1 to the number of units in the formation. This means that formations are subject to reorganization on turns following heavy combat."
and
"Unit Quality = (2*proficiency+readiness)/3.
This is a weighted average of a unit's proficiency and readiness, expressed as a percentage. Regardless of actual proficiency and readiness, quality can be no lower than 10% and no higher than 100%. This is the chance that the unit will pass a quality check. Quality checks are made at numerous points in the game to determine things like the unit's ability to sustain an attack or hold ground in the face of a strong enemy attack."
I'm seeing a lot of orange readiness status in that screenshot.
"Formation quality is the average of the formation's proficiency and average assigned unit quality. Formation quality is reduced if many units are divided. The formation passes the quality check if this value is greater than a random number from 1 to 100, or if the number of units that experienced severe combat results in the previous turn is smaller than a random number from 1 to the number of units in the formation. This means that formations are subject to reorganization on turns following heavy combat."
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"Unit Quality = (2*proficiency+readiness)/3.
This is a weighted average of a unit's proficiency and readiness, expressed as a percentage. Regardless of actual proficiency and readiness, quality can be no lower than 10% and no higher than 100%. This is the chance that the unit will pass a quality check. Quality checks are made at numerous points in the game to determine things like the unit's ability to sustain an attack or hold ground in the face of a strong enemy attack."
I'm seeing a lot of orange readiness status in that screenshot.
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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T21
Thanks for the info. I had no idea. Now I understand better.
Russia’s 41st Army COLLAPSED in Pokrovsk — 25,000 Soldiers KILLED After a RIDICULOUS Russian Assault
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_CtW3GqPQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_CtW3GqPQg
RE: FITE Curt vs larry T21
if the number of units that experienced severe combat results in the previous turn is smaller than a random number from 1 to the number of units in the formation. This means that formations are subject to reorganization
So if there are 20 units in a formation, and one unit experiences severe combat results, there is a 95% chance that the formation will be subject to reorganization. And if 10 units experience severe combat results, there is a 50% chance of reorganization.
No wonder I can't win in Vegas.
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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T21
Here's the moves minimovie from turns 17 to 21:


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RE: FITE Curt vs larry T21
And now a series of close-ups starting at the north sector:


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_CtW3GqPQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_CtW3GqPQg

