strange result

[borner]

I am playing as the US, but the results of these strikes seemed a bit high. Just wondering if anyone else has seen something like that. It may be that the base had just fallen, so has a zero fort level and still some damage, but would welcome another opinion. By the way, Cairns and Cooktown have both fallen, at very heavy loss to ememy shipping

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/21/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Air attack on Cairns , at 7,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
A6M3 Zero x 14

Allied aircraft
Hudson x 13
Beaufort x 6
P-40E Kittyhawk x 18
B-25D Mitchell x 16
B-26B Marauder x 45
A-20B Havoc x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson x 1 destroyed
Beaufort x 1 destroyed
Beaufort x 1 damaged
P-40E Kittyhawk x 6 destroyed
B-26B Marauder x 3 damaged

PO K.Crandall of No. 76 Sqn RAAF is credited with kill number 7

FLT G.Shannon of No. 76 Sqn RAAF bails out and is CAPTURED

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 1176
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 83

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson at 6000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson at 6000 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x A-20B Havoc at 6000 feet
6 x A-20B Havoc at 6000 feet
3 x B-25D Mitchell at 6000 feet
3 x B-25D Mitchell at 6000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
4 x B-25D Mitchell at 6000 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
6 x B-25D Mitchell at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson at 6000 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x A-20B Havoc at 6000 feet

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Air attack on Cairns , at 7,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
A6M3 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 51

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged


Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 843
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 54

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet

[fuelli]

I can not see results that look off. Which do you mean?

[borner]

my opponent thought that was a lot of men to loose in one raid, and I admit I have not seen this heavy of losses with so few planes. May have something to do that they were flying from bases that are so close. (Townsville)

[fuelli]

Taking into account that there is no fort level and that there a lot of troops present then I think the result is high but OK.

[Kingfisher]

Hmm, doesn't seem right. I can't think of a single instance historically where 2 strikes on an airfield resulted in the loss of 2000+ men. If were a port strike, then maybe I could see the strike hitting just as ships were being unloaded, as this concentrates the base personnel in one general area.

[fuelli]

The casualties are not losses. These numbers include all personnel affected by the bombing in any way that they can not carry out their duty the next day.

[Kingfisher]

Where in the manual does it say that? I'm not disputing it, only surprised as I had assumed all along 'men lost' meant lost for good.

[Nomad]

Most casualties listed are disabled, not killed.

[anarchyintheuk]

Its nothing compared to nuke bombardments.

[fuelli]

ORIGINAL: Kingfisher

Where in the manual does it say that? I'm not disputing it, only surprised as I had assumed all along 'men lost' meant lost for good.

Page 50. It is basically for ground combat but the explanation for casualties counts also for losses due to air bombing or naval bombardment.