Why isn't PH starving - and other questions?

Share your gameplay tips, secret tactics and fabulous strategies with fellow gamers.

Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami

Post Reply
OldCoot
Posts: 262
Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:31 pm

Why isn't PH starving - and other questions?

Post by OldCoot »

Scenario 15 stock 12/7/41

1 - Why isn't PH starving?

If I open the PH base panel I see that Pearl has 36,288 supplies on hand, and that the base requires 7,546 per day. Does this mean that, unless supply ships arrive in the next 5-6 days, Hawaii will starve? If so, they would seem to be in trouble because I see no supply TFs coming or going between PH and the west coast.

Fuel - The manual doesn't say if the "Fuel Requested" figure is a daily requirement. If so,PH is in more trouble. They only have a seven day supply, and there aren't enough tankers on the west coast to meet the shortfall.

I don't know how long it would take a transport TF, but I would guess at least 10 days plus loading/unloading - maybe a month round trip. It looks like I need to put a lot of transport TFs on the way ASAP

2 - Restricted, non restricted commands

a -How do I know which are, and which aren't, and just what does restriction entail?

b - Let's say I have a USMC division at San Diego which is assigned to the South Pacific command, and, for some reason, I feel that this unit might be more useful in OZ than SD. Once there, will it be penalized in some manner for being out of bounds? If so, how?



User avatar
Quixote
Posts: 774
Joined: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:34 pm
Location: Maryland

RE: Why isn't PH starving - and other questions?

Post by Quixote »

1. That's not how much PH uses daily, it's how much supply the base needs ( with everything stationed there ) to function normally. You'll use a LOT less than that per turn depending on activity ( search, bombing, CAP, etc. ) there.

2. Restricted commands won't load on a ship or transport aircraft. Using non-restricted units outside their theater isn't a big deal - they'll still draw replacements at bases with over 20K in supply. I beleive the restircted commands are in the manual ( not positive ), but if not, Phillipine, China, West Coast, Australia, ABDA are the main ones in stock.
Yamato hugger
Posts: 3791
Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:38 am

RE: Why isn't PH starving - and other questions?

Post by Yamato hugger »

The only thing that matters as far as HQ assignment goes in this game is if the HQ is a restricted command or not.
User avatar
Marcus Agrippa
Posts: 4
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:03 pm

RE: Why isn't PH starving - and other questions?

Post by Marcus Agrippa »

ORIGINAL: Quixote

1. That's not how much PH uses daily, it's how much supply the base needs ( with everything stationed there ) to function normally. You'll use a LOT less than that per turn depending on activity ( search, bombing, CAP, etc. ) there.

Is there a way to see how much supply a unit is using each day? Or a rule of thumb about how much excess supply should be accumulated at a base? I'm wondering how much supply is enough.
Oldguard1970
Posts: 578
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:49 pm
Location: Hiawassee, GA

RE: Why isn't PH starving - and other questions?

Post by Oldguard1970 »

Here are the restricted commands: (This is from the manual.)
 [font=arial-boldmt][font=arial-boldmt][left]Japan[/left][/font][/font][font=wingdings-regular][font=wingdings-regular][left]�� [/font][/font][font=arial][font=arial]Home Defense Force[/left][/font][/font][font=wingdings-regular][font=wingdings-regular][left]�� [/font][/font][font=arial][font=arial]Kwangtung Area Army[/left][/font][/font][font=wingdings-regular][font=wingdings-regular][left]�� [/font][/font][font=arial][font=arial]China Expeditionary Army[/left][/font][/font][font=arial-boldmt][font=arial-boldmt][left]Allies[/left][/font][/font][font=wingdings-regular][font=wingdings-regular][left]�� [/font][/font][font=arial][font=arial]Australia Command[/left][/font][/font][font=wingdings-regular][font=wingdings-regular][left]�� [/font][/font][font=arial][font=arial]West Coast[/left][/font][/font][font=wingdings-regular][font=wingdings-regular][left]�� [/font][/font][font=arial][font=arial]USAFFE[/left][/font][/font][font=wingdings-regular][font=wingdings-regular][left]�� [/font][/font][font=arial][font=arial]ABDA[/left][/font][/font][font=wingdings-regular][font=wingdings-regular][left]�� [/font][/font][font=arial][font=arial]Canada Command[/left][/font][/font][font=wingdings-regular][font=wingdings-regular]
��
[/font]
[/font][font=arial][font=arial]New Zealand Command[/font][/font]
[font=arial][font=arial][/font][/font] 
[font=arial][font=arial]Land units assigned to restricted commands will not load on ships or move by air.  Air units assigned to restricted commands may only be based at bases of that command.  You pay political points to reassign units.  Command designation of units has no effect on combat.[/font][/font]
[font=arial][font=arial][/font][/font] 
[font=arial][font=arial] [/font][/font]
"Rangers Lead the Way!"
OldCoot
Posts: 262
Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:31 pm

RE: Why isn't PH starving - and other questions?

Post by OldCoot »

Thanks all!

This must be a good game if, after four years, it has such an active and helpful forum. I hope that, maybe in another four years, after I have learned some of the rudiments of the game, I might be if some use to some future newbee.

(sorry about asking question about something covered by the manual. I did look, but my eyes must have suffered from info overload, and glazed over.)
rockmedic109
Posts: 2465
Joined: Tue May 17, 2005 11:02 am
Location: Citrus Heights, CA

RE: Why isn't PH starving - and other questions?

Post by rockmedic109 »

I believe the Supplies Required number is the number for one month {without battle}.  I thought that I read that.  If not, it is pretty close.
bradfordkay
Posts: 8686
Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2002 8:39 am
Location: Olympia, WA

RE: Why isn't PH starving - and other questions?

Post by bradfordkay »

My understanding is that the number is the number of supplies needed for the month at the present rate of expenditure. So if your troops participated in combat this turn but not the previous, your supplies required will be higher at the end of this turn than it was at the end of the previous turn.

I have no idea if this is correct...
fair winds,
Brad
User avatar
2ndACR
Posts: 5524
Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2003 7:32 am
Location: Irving,Tx

RE: Why isn't PH starving - and other questions?

Post by 2ndACR »

All of us ask questions at one time or another......I probably could not find my rule book if I tried........and I hate alt tabbing out or reading PDF files.
User avatar
Charles2222
Posts: 3687
Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2001 10:00 am

RE: Why isn't PH starving - and other questions?

Post by Charles2222 »

ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

All of us ask questions at one time or another......I probably could not find my rule book if I tried........and I hate alt tabbing out or reading PDF files.

If only you knew the power of using the 'special' search utility in pdf's, you would not be reading manuals anymore. Let's say you want to know about restricted units. Type in the word 'restricted' and you will find ALL instances of that word coming up with instant links. Some words surrounding the searched word are provided as part of the link, such that often without even going to the link you can see whether the link is even worth clicking on. The special search link is located in the top right corner. IIRC it's always there, but I haven't been in a pdf searching for anything in a good while, so I cannot tell how to always have it pinned to the top right corner if it isn't always there, but I think it is.

Having seen the power of the pdf side, I feel really cheated when all I get is a printed manual. I like printed manuals, especially for comparing different units, but pdf special searching is so good every game should provide them, printed manual or not. Unfortunately, most companies who do away with printed manuals use the grind that a pdf can be updated. True, but do you know anybody who ever bothered to update one? I might had seen one company do it once, but then again printed manuals aren't updated either.
Post Reply

Return to “The War Room”