AAR-SP "China: 2014 #01: The Fight for the Islands"

[Anonymous]

AAR "China: 2014 #01: The Fight for the Islands"
Author: Klaus Behrmann
Game Engine: Harpoon 3.6.2
Database: DB2000 V 10.0.0

Start: April, 12th, 2014, 18:00

I choose Japanese Side

1. At 18:20 I have AAW missions for both Naha and Nyutabaru set up. In addition my Task Force has two helos on sonobuyo station all time aloft

2. Behind the fighter CAP a Sentinel is patrolling near Nyutabaru and an Orion is heading southwest in order to gather intelligence

3. The US air base Kadena has fighters and a Sentry up, thus screening my SAG and both Kadena and Naha

4. At 18:35, The Sentry has detected Chinese vessels and fighters; Eagles are vectored West.

5. At 18:48 I launch four ASM armed Orions in order to make the Sentry´s results count

6. 18:58: Dog fights between Chinese and US aircraft are minutes ahead. What is that Sentry doings o far out?

7. 19:25 There is a Taiwanese SAG in the game, too. So we have four sides.

8. 1940: Hostilities have started. Lost two Phantoms due to missiles

9. 20:30 My four Orions got in shooting positions and fired their ASMs at the Chinese SAG

10. 21:00 Some things went terribly wrong. The four Orins were intercepted on their way back. The Japanese Task Force was pounded, one ship sunk.

11. 21:05 Another attack with Silkworm ASM on my Task Force

12. 21:08 Three hits on the Kongo

13. 21:15 Another ship hit, the LST Osumi. Missile type: Kazoo B. Long range ASM.

14. 21:17 More Kazoo ASM inbound. The Kongo´s SM-2MR magazines are nearly depleted

15. 21:18 DDH Kurama hit, LST Shimokita hit

16. 22:03 My second wave of Orions has been shot down


Second day, April 13th, 2014

17. Preparing counterstrikes with my subs

18. One Orion left for recce just redetected the Hangzhou !

19. Immediately afterwards SS 591 Michishito launches four Harpoons at it

20. 01:40: The Orion pays the price and is shot down

21. SS 591 attack has failed, no hits. Preparing second Harpoon salvo

22. 03:30 Second volley failed, too

23. 04:37 Orion lost

24. 05:00 SS 591 fires torps at Luda and Haribing

25. 05:14 Luda I dead, but SS 591 too; sunk by Orlan torp

26. 05:15 coordinated Harpoon salvo from SS 593 and SS 589 heading for Hangzhou

27. Hit ! Hangzhou down to 4 knots, heavily damaged

28. Hangzhou sinking. The most important Chinese surface vessel is dead.

29. Time to move in with the two remaining subs.

30. 08:50 Subs are closing. No more air attacks since several hours. Reloading or did I get the bombers and fighter bombers?

31. 10:19 Two torps fired at Jiangwei

32. 10:26 hit and Jiangwei sunk

33. 10:56 Two torps fired at Yuting

34. 11:02 one hit

35. 11:30 two more torps fired at Yuting

36. 11:35 Yuting hit and sunk !

The resume until that point displayed a draw: I got enough Chiniese vessels, but lost a sub and a LST.

Great scen, Klaus ! [&o]


Ralf

[ruixilyy]

IMHO, I don't think this scenario is a good one. I can't not imagine that in the year 2014, Chinese navy still use Jiang Wei Class and Luhu Class in the battle. I guess that's just because the database used in this scenario is too old, compared with the HCE database. In HCE, the most advanced destoryers of the Chinese navy, such as 168 Guangzhou, 1711 Haikou, 115 Shijiazhuang, are all included and can be used in creating new scenarios.
 
So, since harpoon is boast for its "so real" feature, why the designer of such kind of "predicted" scenarios not using the most up-to-date data but stick to the very old one?  I can not accept these "new-created old data" scenarios, for the reason that the most advanced naval vessels (which can obviously reflect the progress of the modern navy of various countries) are not contained in them.

[ruixilyy]

The Luda I is totally obsolete, because even the 1980s Luda Series destroyers are now improved to Luda III and Luda IV. If the commander is not insance, he will certainly dispatch a Luda III or IV instead of Luda I. 

[hermanhum]

Klaus is not the kind of man to hold others back.  If this scenario is not to your liking, why don't you re-write it with units that you think are more appropriate and post it up so that others may enjoy your work?

The PlayersDB has all the units you describe and I do not believe Klaus would object.  You can contact him directly and ask him yourself. 
klaus.behrmann "at symbol" gmail "dot" com

[ruixilyy]

I know the Player's database has "new" units, and those units use the data from HCE. However, the Player's database is not the official database...It's a pity, isn't it? If the player's database is so excellect, why Matrix Games does not consider to contain it in the next H3ANW patch (like the HUD3 database) ?

[hermanhum]

HUD3 is just another user-created DB distributed by AGSI/Matrix. It's not "official", either. The only two official databses are: OriginalDB and ANWDB (and both are pretty much non-functional)

You can read all about AGSI intransigence for yourself:
fb.asp?m=1925918

It is irrelevant whether or not Matrix distributes the PlayersDB. It is the de facto choice of ANW players because it's the only one that has any chance of working. It's not perfect, but it will give a user the least number of problems, guaranteed.

[Anonymous]

Hello,

ORIGINAL: ruixilyy

IMHO, I don't think this scenario is a good one. I can't not imagine that in the year 2014, Chinese navy still use Jiang Wei Class and Luhu Class in the battle. I guess that's just because the database used in this scenario is too old, compared with the HCE database. In HCE, the most advanced destoryers of the Chinese navy, such as 168 Guangzhou, 1711 Haikou, 115 Shijiazhuang, are all included and can be used in creating new scenarios.

Depends how you define a "good scenario". Your defintion has a strong focus on most realistic and up-to-date platforms - ok. Regarding this aspect you may be right. my focus when playing scens is tactics and strategy as well as tactical surprises. Regarding these aspects, the scen is good IMO.