Which one to buy?

[hermanhum]

Should I be quoting the anti-panty crusader?

ORIGINAL:  Britney Spears

Oops, I did it again...

[drrowley]

tried re-installing anw, worse than before. starting anw thread.
 
vlow for dropping sonos'.....  actually, that sounds familier....[8|]
 
the formation/groups thingie...  i take, say a p3, and manually set up an asw mission in the formation editor.  later on, for what ever reason, i decide i want to do something else with him. i go into the formation editor and delete said p3's asw mission. now in older harpoons, the p3 would appear in the group window with loiter command on and i could do what ever i wanted with him. now, he is order to land.
 
then there is the reverse (and older harpoons didn't do this either, a wish it did).  say i had a p3 that i had instructed to manually attack a sub. now the sub is sunk. even if the p3 didn't have any torps left, it surely would have some bouy's left. it would be nice to re-group the p3 with the airbase and then setup an asw mission to continue to prosecute the area, until another full p3 was ready.  better, dispatch some fighters, but the target was destroyed, i'd like to setup an aaw mission rather than land them and they set in the refueling que.
 
another anomaly: ordered a nimrod to attack a sub after it had sunk another. as it was moving to the other sub, notification popped up that another sub had been found by a sonobouy (i'm sure thats what it said).  looking at the unit screen, that nimrod was setting almost on top of the sub and there were no bouys around (mad detection?)... and when i clicked on intercept, the nimrod wasn't listed. so i manually ordered the nimrod to attack that sub. but it's course was still to the other sub. i manually attack the new sub again.
samething.  i manually set the course back to the new contact and after several seconds i again order manual attack. this time it took.  i have seen this ignore a 'new' attack before, just don't remember the particulars. 

[hermanhum]

ORIGINAL: daver

the formation/groups thingie... i take, say a p3, and manually set up an asw mission in the formation editor. later on, for what ever reason, i decide i want to do something else with him. i go into the formation editor and delete said p3's asw mission. now in older harpoons, the p3 would appear in the group window with loiter command on and i could do what ever i wanted with him. now, he is order to land.

I don't remember it the way you do. As far as I remember, when I cancelled a Formation patrol via the Formation Editor, it went back to base to land and did not break out of the formation and into its own group as you describe.

If I wanted to break the unit out of the formation and cancel the Formation patrol at the same time, I used the "Divide Group" command. I remember this quite distinctly because I considered it a real PiTA to locate the unit I wanted to detach. For example, if I had detach a helo from the formation and there were 8 identical helos flying, I often detached the 'wrong' one.

I hope that my memory is not failing me on this one.

ORIGINAL: daver

another anomaly: ordered a nimrod to attack a sub after it had sunk another. as it was moving to the other sub, notification popped up that another sub had been found by a sonobouy (i'm sure thats what it said). looking at the unit screen, that nimrod was setting almost on top of the sub and there were no bouys around (mad detection?)... and when i clicked on intercept, the nimrod wasn't listed. so i manually ordered the nimrod to attack that sub. but it's course was still to the other sub. i manually attack the new sub again.
samething. i manually set the course back to the new contact and after several seconds i again order manual attack. this time it took. i have seen this ignore a 'new' attack before, just don't remember the particulars.

There are many, many possible explanations for this situation and there is insufficient detail in the description to be certain.

- The detection by non-existent sonobuoy might very well be true. The range of the buoys is not strictly limited to the little square you see on the Unit window.

- If a unit is detected by MAD, I am pretty sure that I have seen it reported as such in both the text message window and the Staff Assistant window

Sir, we have detected 1 new contact:

Sub contact
from AB00 SH-60B Seahawk
Method: MAD

- Was the location of the second submarine in a large uncertainty zone? Could it have been closer to another buoy a long ways away?

- Nimrod may not have been listed as available to attack the second sub because it was already assigned to an intercept mission

- This might be a bug already reported:

Out of range message missing

A saved game showing the problem would definitely be helpful in this case

[drrowley]

your description of 'divide group', did that to before, with same anxiety.... but, still remember units popping on to the group window. but as you say, that was a looong time ago..[;)]
 
on the nimrod, there was alot happening at that time.  there were bouys tens of miles away.  at first i was confused because i couldn't see the contact and it turned out that the nimrod was setting right on top of the contact (why i thought mad). i was just irked that i couldn't get the nimrod to switch targets (perticularly sense it was setting right on top of it).  it sound like that once an attack is manually ordered, groups will ignore all other attack orders and not be listed in intercepts[&:]

[acarney]

Hi Terry,

Your issue w. Uncommon Valor is not Vista. Running Vista Ultimate, and I haven't seen any problems.