OT.. wake island

[Hornblower]

You gents catch the old Wake Island Movie from '42 on AMC?? corny, but nothing like the old ones..

[John 3rd]

I enjoy the movie especially since they make-up the entire end of the battle

[stuman]

I watched " They Were Expendable "  a few days ago. Great movie about MTB -3. Realistic in setting and tone, but they do have the PTs sinking cruisers and a Light Carrier.

[dhuffjr2]

I purchased it some a while ago so I could watch it. I used to sit around on Saturdays and watch old war movies on TBS, WGN, TNT, etc as a kid.

Guadalcanal Diary is my favorite of those classic movies.

[John 3rd]

Sands of Iwo Jima and Harm's Way are two of my favorites.

[Hornblower]

Sands of Iwo Jima- now that is top...

[Big B]

Agree,

Although if memory serves me correctly, MTB-3 actually did torpedo a Japanese CL (forgot which one) - but the torpedo was a dud. From what I remember reading, the real 'hit' looked convincing to the PT men (lots of water splash), but only superficial damage was actually sustained on the CL.

I am pretty familiar with the movie - but I don't think they depicted any attack on any kind of CV - if I recall correctly the movie depicted successful attacks on numerous barges around Bataan, the sinking of a 'converted merchant cruiser', and culminated in the sinking of a Japanese CL (which was supposed to be a Mogami Class in the movie).

Anyway, an enjoyable film.

B

ORIGINAL: stuman

I watched " They Were Expendable " a few days ago. Great movie about MTB -3. Realistic in setting and tone, but they do have the PTs sinking cruisers and a Light Carrier.

[TOMLABEL]

ORIGINAL: Big B

Agree,

Although if memory serves me correctly, MTB-3 actually did torpedo a Japanese CL (forgot which one) - but the torpedo was a dud. From what I remember reading, the real 'hit' looked convincing to the PT men (lots of water splash), but only superficial damage was actually sustained on the CL.

I am pretty familiar with the movie - but I don't think they depicted any attack on any kind of CV - if I recall correctly the movie depicted successful attacks on numerous barges around Bataan, the sinking of a 'converted merchant cruiser', and culminated in the sinking of a Japanese CL (which was supposed to be a Mogami Class in the movie).

Anyway, an enjoyable film.

B

ORIGINAL: stuman

I watched " They Were Expendable " a few days ago. Great movie about MTB -3. Realistic in setting and tone, but they do have the PTs sinking cruisers and a Light Carrier.

Yes, 'They Were Expendable' is an excellent movie! I was lucky enough to be able to record the colorized version off TBS many years ago. As Big B said, I can concur that there was no CV sinking or attack in this movie. Sounds like something that would have come out of 'In Harms Way' but I'm not sure.

TOMLABEL

[Big B]

Actually, 'In Harms Way' didn't purport the sinking of any Jap CV's either.

I think the egregious movie that was so over the top that everyone remembers was 'Air Force'. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035616/

In that movie (from 1943) a lone B-17D starts the war landing at Wake Is., fly's to the Philippines, mounts a machine gun in the tail (surprise!) and ends up sinking ...half the Imperial Japanese Navy off Luzon? Anyway, it was a pure moral booster from 1943 - and none too accurate....but hey - its intended audience wasn't concerned with accuracy at the time. [:D]

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL

ORIGINAL: Big B

Agree,

Although if memory serves me correctly, MTB-3 actually did torpedo a Japanese CL (forgot which one) - but the torpedo was a dud. From what I remember reading, the real 'hit' looked convincing to the PT men (lots of water splash), but only superficial damage was actually sustained on the CL.

I am pretty familiar with the movie - but I don't think they depicted any attack on any kind of CV - if I recall correctly the movie depicted successful attacks on numerous barges around Bataan, the sinking of a 'converted merchant cruiser', and culminated in the sinking of a Japanese CL (which was supposed to be a Mogami Class in the movie).

Anyway, an enjoyable film.

B

ORIGINAL: stuman

I watched " They Were Expendable " a few days ago. Great movie about MTB -3. Realistic in setting and tone, but they do have the PTs sinking cruisers and a Light Carrier.

Yes, 'They Were Expendable' is an excellent movie! I was lucky enough to be able to record the colorized version off TBS many years ago. As Big B said, I can concur that there was no CV sinking or attack in this movie. Sounds like something that would have come out of 'In Harms Way' but I'm not sure.

TOMLABEL

[TOMLABEL]

ORIGINAL: Big B

Actually, 'In Harms Way' didn't purport the sinking of any Jap CV's either.

I think the egregious movie that was so over the top that everyone remembers was 'Air Force'. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035616/

In that movie (from 1943) a lone B-17D starts the war landing at Wake Is., fly's to the Philippines, mounts a machine gun in the tail (surprise!) and ends up sinking ...half the Imperial Japanese Navy off Luzon? Anyway, it was a pure moral booster from 1943 - and none too accurate....but hey - its intended audience wasn't concerned with accuracy at the time. [:D]

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL

ORIGINAL: Big B

Agree,

Although if memory serves me correctly, MTB-3 actually did torpedo a Japanese CL (forgot which one) - but the torpedo was a dud. From what I remember reading, the real 'hit' looked convincing to the PT men (lots of water splash), but only superficial damage was actually sustained on the CL.

I am pretty familiar with the movie - but I don't think they depicted any attack on any kind of CV - if I recall correctly the movie depicted successful attacks on numerous barges around Bataan, the sinking of a 'converted merchant cruiser', and culminated in the sinking of a Japanese CL (which was supposed to be a Mogami Class in the movie).

Anyway, an enjoyable film.

B

Yes, 'They Were Expendable' is an excellent movie! I was lucky enough to be able to record the colorized version off TBS many years ago. As Big B said, I can concur that there was no CV sinking or attack in this movie. Sounds like something that would have come out of 'In Harms Way' but I'm not sure.

TOMLABEL

I stand corrected! [:D][;)]

But I can't remember if I've seen 'Air Force' or not. Kinda sounds like a move along the lines of 'A Wing and a Prayer'. Maybe I'd better head over to the Geezer's thread....[8|]

[spence]

IIRC, the attack on the CV (in "They Were Expendable") is mentioned by "Lt Buckley" when they are begging torpedos from "Snuffy" (or some such) who is CO of a submarine. Apparently "Snuffy's acting career at the USNA is felt to be of possible interest to the submarine's crew by Lt Buckley but is best kept obscure by "LT Snuffy".[:D]

BTW I think the CV is actually called "an auxiliary aircraft carrier".

[Big B]

Wasn't 'Wing and a Prayer' a wartime movie that depicted, or fictionalized, a carrier known as 'carrier X' and the battle of Midway and the comeback later in the war?

Geezer's Thread??? You??? [:D]

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL
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But I can't remember if I've seen 'Air Force' or not. Kinda sounds like a move along the lines of 'A Wing and a Prayer'. Maybe I'd better head over to the Geezer's thread....[8|]

You may well be correct spence... (Hey - Bulkeley I think was his real name...in the movie he was 'Brickley'...no?)

ORIGINAL: spence

IIRC, the attack on the CV (in "They Were Expendable") is mentioned by "Lt Buckley" when they are begging torpedos from "Snuffy" (or some such) who is CO of a submarine. Apparently "Snuffy's acting career at the USNA is felt to be of possible interest to the submarine's crew by Lt Buckley but is best kept obscure by "LT Snuffy".[:D]

BTW I think the CV is actually called "an auxiliary aircraft carrier".

[TOMLABEL]

ORIGINAL: Big B

Wasn't 'Wing and a Prayer' a wartime movie that depicted, or fictionalized, a carrier known as 'carrier X' and the battle of Midway and the comeback later in the war?

Geezer's Thread??? You??? [:D]

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL
...
But I can't remember if I've seen 'Air Force' or not. Kinda sounds like a move along the lines of 'A Wing and a Prayer'. Maybe I'd better head over to the Geezer's thread....[8|]

You may well be correct spence... (Hey - Bulkeley I think was his real name...in the movie he was 'Brickley'...no?)

ORIGINAL: spence

IIRC, the attack on the CV (in "They Were Expendable") is mentioned by "Lt Buckley" when they are begging torpedos from "Snuffy" (or some such) who is CO of a submarine. Apparently "Snuffy's acting career at the USNA is felt to be of possible interest to the submarine's crew by Lt Buckley but is best kept obscure by "LT Snuffy".[:D]

BTW I think the CV is actually called "an auxiliary aircraft carrier".

Yes, that's the one. Complete with a Hollywood actor turned Naval Aviator. Story line was pretty lame, but the photocoverage of an Essex class with TBFs was pretty good.

Big B: Geezer's Thread??? You??? [:D]

Well, I'm not sure. I'm starting to consider getting out of bed in the morning my daily excercise....[:D]

[stuman]

The scene in " ... Expendable " I am thinking of is gone in the blink of an eye. There is a leader board or kill board showing ships the guys have sunk, and on it is listed a Light Carrier. No big deal of course. 

[Big B]

Maybe...? You and spence are probably right - I just don't remember any depiction of such an attack in the movie..[&:]

Hollywooood! (Spielberg, ...1941)[:D]

ORIGINAL: stuman

The scene in " ... Expendable " I am thinking of is gone in the blink of an eye. There is a leader board or kill board showing ships the guys have sunk, and on it is listed a Light Carrier. No big deal of course. 

[stuman]

You are right in that there is no action scene per se , just the brief shot of the leader board ( is that what you call it ? ).  And I do like  " 1941 " , in spite of myself [:)]

[TOMLABEL]

ORIGINAL: Big B

Hollywooood! (Spielberg, ...1941)[:D]

One of the most memorable scenes of that move![:D]

As I recall.....a long lost, and missed avatar as well![;)]

TOMLABEL

[Big B]

Ahhh yes - Wild Bill Kelso [:D]

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL

ORIGINAL: Big B

Hollywooood! (Spielberg, ...1941)[:D]

One of the most memorable scenes of that move![:D]

As I recall.....a long lost, and missed avatar as well![;)]

TOMLABEL

[TOMLABEL]

ORIGINAL: Big B

Ahhh yes - Wild Bill Kelso [:D]

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL

ORIGINAL: Big B

Hollywooood! (Spielberg, ...1941)[:D]

One of the most memorable scenes of that move![:D]

As I recall.....a long lost, and missed avatar as well![;)]

TOMLABEL

Yes, thank GOD for Wild Bill Kelso!!![:D][;)]

If it weren't for him, Amercia would definitely be a different place today.[:D]

[Hornblower]

1941 isn't a war movie.. funny yes, war movie no