Only tweaking is left

[tocaff]

There you go. play test AE for the duration of the war and then to be sure replay it many more times to verify that things work properly.  [;)]

[Chad Harrison]

ORIGINAL: tocaff

There you go. play test AE for the duration of the war and then to be sure replay it many more times to verify that things work properly.  [;)]

That was my thought. A game of this size, and this scope and this length can not be tested entirely. Its impossible. I have no doubt that they are catching many, many bugs. But when playing one game to completion takes over 1000 turns, its impossible to find all the late game bugs.

But as the devs said above, most of the bugs they find in December 1941 apply through the entire war and can be fixed. Just like WitP, it will certainly continue to get patches long after the release date to address things that only thousands of people playing the game, whether against the AI or a human, will find.

Personally, I am looking forward to my testing of AE [:D]

[TOMLABEL]

ORIGINAL: Chad Harrison

ORIGINAL: tocaff

There you go. play test AE for the duration of the war and then to be sure replay it many more times to verify that things work properly.  [;)]

That was my thought. A game of this size, and this scope and this length can not be tested entirely. Its impossible. I have no doubt that they are catching many, many bugs. But when playing one game to completion takes over 1000 turns, its impossible to find all the late game bugs.

But as the devs said above, most of the bugs they find in December 1941 apply through the entire war and can be fixed. Just like WitP, it will certainly continue to get patches long after the release date to address things that only thousands of people playing the game, whether against the AI or a human, will find.

Personally, I am looking forward to my testing of AE [:D]

Now, that's the appropriate attitude!!! Chad get's the GOLD star today.

TOMLABEL

[Chad Harrison]

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL

Now, that's the appropriate attitude!!! Chad get's the GOLD star today.

TOMLABEL

Hooray!

So, lets get down to details: who do I turn the gold star in to and get the beta AE download? [:D]

[Kaletsch2007]

ORIGINAL: Chad Harrison

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL

Now, that's the appropriate attitude!!! Chad get's the GOLD star today.

TOMLABEL

Hooray!

So, lets get down to details: who do I turn the gold star in to and get the beta AE download? [:D]

Sorry for disappointing you. It is like all other medals. It is there to honor you, not to be sold or exchanged. [:-]
You will wait, like I have to do [;)]

[Kull]

Sometimes I wonder. Does anybody for one minute, actually think the "Release Checklist" includes a heavily weighted item titled "Users really, really, really, REALLY want it right now!"? Kudos to Matrix for their patience, because lots of other games DO have a nearly identical item on their checklists (just substitute "Publisher" for "User").

[langleyCV1]

Tweak away guys thanks for all your efforts, I am all set for the release of AE as soon as you are done testing.
 
MJT

[51st Highland Div]

Much rather wait and get as best a bug free copy as possible than get something released that requires a path larger than the initial release to patch into something resembling a game,seen that happen a few times [:@]
So kudos on the developers/testers on making sure things are ready to go when their ready..

[CV Zuikaku]

Digital download of AE will be available? I hope... [;)]

[51st Highland Div]

Hope so,would probably get the digital download/phsyical copy for back up as only got the Digital Copy of WitP when it came out and it got subsequently erased by a faulty hard-drive..do'oh [8|]

[CV Zuikaku]

You are free to download only a month after purchase, don't you? Try to e-mail the Matrix guys, I'm sure they let you download it again....

[51st Highland Div]

Just went ahead and bought another copy of it again but learned my lesson then as the copy was bought a few years ago and the email serial number also lost in the limbo of time (and another internet provider)..so be warned [:-] [:)]

[Grotius]

If you bought WITP by digital download, you can redownload it through Digital River much later, as long as you still have your order and/or serial number (I forget which). I just did so a few weeks ago, and I bought the game four years ago.

I'm also glad the AE team is taking the time to make the game as good as possible. At the same time, I personally don't expect a bug-free release of any piece of software this complex. I fully expect there to be patches. I don't mind.

[Yamato hugger]

ORIGINAL: CV Zuikaku

Digital download of AE will be available? I hope... [;)]

whats AE?

[Terminus]

ORIGINAL: CV Zuikaku

Digital download of AE will be available? I hope... [;)]

No. You can only buy a box copy, and you have to go pick it up yourself at Matrix HQ.

[Ol_Dog]

What's the street address?

[Dili]

And before that you have to go to Denmark to see T err..Santa.

[DaveB]

Personally I think this is all getting to be rather beyond a joke, this expansion should be grabbed by the scruff of its neck and brought to market - as a mere customer my impression is that it's become a private plaything of the beta testers, and that nobody gives a hoot about the uncomfortable period it has overrun release estimate by.... I feel that Matrix are being rather complacent about their market, which was always going to be pretty small to begin with. Please don't bother with the 'do you want a bugged version on time or a fixed one later' rubbish - properly managed projects include bugtesting time.
 
Sorry to sound all grumpy, but I care about WITP and I'm beginning to think the 3 Stooges are managing it.

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: DaveB

Personally I think this is all getting to be rather beyond a joke, this expansion should be grabbed by the scruff of its neck and brought to market - as a mere customer my impression is that it's become a private plaything of the beta testers, and that nobody gives a hoot about the uncomfortable period it has overrun release estimate by.... I feel that Matrix are being rather complacent about their market, which was always going to be pretty small to begin with. Please don't bother with the 'do you want a bugged version on time or a fixed one later' rubbish - properly managed projects include bugtesting time.

Sorry to sound all grumpy, but I care about WITP and I'm beginning to think the 3 Stooges are managing it.

Bovine feces. We be working as fastest as we can.

[DaveB]

..and this "The Admiral’s Edition expansion is currently scheduled for an early Summer, 2008 release." was therefore PR spin, or somebody not appreciating what the job entailed - both are still under the general heading of management of the project Don.