Scenario 17 ... for your comments

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trollelite
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RE: Scenario 17 ... for your comments

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Chinese is already too strong in standard scenario. One chinese corps could easily rout a IJA division, if supply situation is good. Not even the boldest chinese general dared to claim this combat value of their army.

Only dozens of chinese divisions has nearly so much combat value as in game. Many others are no better than that infamous 208th division in chs.
el cid again
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RE: Scenario 17 ... for your comments

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ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

All Chinese Corps have been increased to equal 3 divisions, I have made modest adjustments to supply levels and increased the Chinese daily supply points from 300 to 350 to help offset the stronger units. The purpose of this test scenario is to see if we can slow down operations in the Chinese theater.

Enhanced China Standard Scenario

Give it a try and provide your feedback.

Since the majority of Chinese Corps (or "Armies") were composed of two divisions -

this seems to be a move in the wrong direction.

One set of terminology used in this period was that of Field Army and Group Army: a Field Army had two divisions and was the traditional formation of the Chinese military institutions; a Group Army had three divisions and was a newer concept (not always applied - thus a "New Nth Army" might still have only two divisions).

There is some inconsistency in terminology and usage: it appears ROC went over to a formal Corps organization in the late 1930s. But the formal ROC organization only applied to a minority of Chinese troops - most of which were only ROC allied in some sense or orther -
but actually local or Provincial organizations - and sometimes none of the above. Also - the traditional usage seems to have remained in use even where it nominally was supposed to be in place - although possibly that varied from unit to unit.
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RE: Scenario 17 ... for your comments

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ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

All Chinese Corps have been increased to equal 3 divisions, I have made modest adjustments to supply levels and increased the Chinese daily supply points from 300 to 350 to help offset the stronger units. The purpose of this test scenario is to see if we can slow down operations in the Chinese theater.

Enhanced China Standard Scenario

Give it a try and provide your feedback.

One wonders why? The typical Chinese Corps - or Field Army - was composed of two divisions. If there were three divisions, it was usually called a Route Army. There were very few cases of this sort.
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RE: Scenario 17 ... for your comments

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Just why do you two feel the need to drag up a 3 year old test senario and bash it? Talk about egos - yours are out of control.
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RE: Scenario 17 ... for your comments

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You are making an assumption - in this case unwarranted. I was trying to be constructive and helpful - and stating a fact is in no sense bashing. I never waste my time being negative.

What has the age of the scenario got to do with anything: if it was not intended to draw comments it should not be posted.
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RE: Scenario 17 ... for your comments

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ORIGINAL: el cid again

You are making an assumption - in this case unwarranted. I was trying to be constructive and helpful - and stating a fact is in no sense bashing. I never waste my time being negative.

What has the age of the scenario got to do with anything: if it was not intended to draw comments it should not be posted.

Sid, seems you are wasting your time responding to a post that is over 9 months old. The long nights (or whatever) must be getting to you up there. Are you in a hibernation mode? What's going on with your updates?
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RE: Scenario 17 ... for your comments

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I have a somewhat minor update to issue - mainly re aircraft and air units - for all scenarios - but significant for YPO - which is able to add a number of types of planes due to no 1945 planes being needed. It is a sort of demonstration of the aircraft possibilities for the strictly historical versions of RHS which may be possible in AE. It will release today or tomorrow.

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