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Why do I see the Fighter-Bomber zooming in right NOW?!!
Knew that quote would get you again Mr. Nemo!
Forlorn Hopes: The Japanese Respond
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RE: Aerial Might
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RE: Aerial Might
Oddball: It's still up.
FB ZOOMS in.
Moriarty: No it ain't.
P.s. Do YOU have the gravediggers with you? IF you do then I support this strike wholeheartedly.
P.p.s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqSiLL8U3vo Burning Bridges.
FB ZOOMS in.
Moriarty: No it ain't.
P.s. Do YOU have the gravediggers with you? IF you do then I support this strike wholeheartedly.
P.p.s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqSiLL8U3vo Burning Bridges.
John Dillworth: "I had GreyJoy check my spelling and he said it was fine."
Well, that's that settled then.
Well, that's that settled then.
Gravediggers!
Kelly: "We're moving FORWARD."
General: "Attack. Attack. Attack. THAT's the fighting spirit I've been talking about. If he's was a Major, he's a Colonel NOW."
Kelly: "Hey Kelly this is the Gravediggers. We've got a stake in this advance too."
General: "EVER hear enthusiasm like that? Listen to that they've even got the gawd-damned Gravediggers with them! What am I doing here? Pouncil get me my uniform!"
Nemo---Thanks again for the laugh and the good spirit. I will click on Burning Bridges. My eldest son LOVES that song and sings it with me whenever we watch this damned movie.
HEY! I am going to post a screenshot that will severely tarnish Dan's mood. Remember those Kamikaze's I was talking about earlier? The Flagship of British Eastern Fleet makes for a PRETTY target....
General: "Attack. Attack. Attack. THAT's the fighting spirit I've been talking about. If he's was a Major, he's a Colonel NOW."
Kelly: "Hey Kelly this is the Gravediggers. We've got a stake in this advance too."
General: "EVER hear enthusiasm like that? Listen to that they've even got the gawd-damned Gravediggers with them! What am I doing here? Pouncil get me my uniform!"
Nemo---Thanks again for the laugh and the good spirit. I will click on Burning Bridges. My eldest son LOVES that song and sings it with me whenever we watch this damned movie.
HEY! I am going to post a screenshot that will severely tarnish Dan's mood. Remember those Kamikaze's I was talking about earlier? The Flagship of British Eastern Fleet makes for a PRETTY target....
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RE: Gravediggers!
HEY! I am going to post a screenshot that will severely tarnish Dan's mood. Remember those Kamikaze's I was talking about earlier? The Flagship of British Eastern Fleet makes for a PRETTY target....
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SierraJuliet
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RE: Gravediggers!
Guys… good digression.[:)] Guess I’ll have to hunt down a copy of KH and bring myself up to speed. The delving into the dictionary has been fun too but what does EmCon. mean?
Kido Butai, although powerful, was a raiding force, and this is exactly how the Japanese understood its usage. 'Shattered Sword'
RE: Gravediggers!
ORIGINAL: SierraJuliet
Guys… good digression.[:)] Guess I’ll have to hunt down a copy of KH and bring myself up to speed. The delving into the dictionary has been fun too but what does EmCon. mean?
Emissions Control - Basically radio and radar silence.
Zhukov rules!
West of Hong Kong
October 6, 1944
West of Hong Kong
The Flagship of the British Fleet is the HMS Howe. This is a modern KGV-Class BB and it has been working the Malaya and Indochina Theatre for about 3 months now. The warship sails at the center of a defensive ring comprising BB Howe, BB Valiant, CA Cumberland, 5 CL, and 10 DD.
The morning dawns with about 75% overcast as the Admiral reads about the good news coming from the Hong Kong invasion forces. He has decided to pull away from the LR CAP over Hong Kong for reasons known only to him. It shouldn't be any concern since the Japanese have been pretty docile over the last few months...
This illusion is shattered within about 90 minutes of time.
Flying in from Amoy is the first large Kamikaze Strike Force of the war. A baker's dozen Jacks protect 59 Randy/Nicks suicide planes, 8 Elite Frances TB, and 9 Judy DB. The Japanese Strike Commander divides his suicide planes with one group hugging the wavetops at 1,000 Ft and the other flying at 31,000 Ft. The rest of the formation flies at various altitudes.
The Commander wisely ignores the battle going on at Hong Kong. Though there are dozens of AK/AP, he hunts larger game. Additionally, he has little desire to tangle with the nearly 100 Allied Fighters flying over Hong Kong. Guided by his recon planes, he finds the British Surface Task Force...
Radar picks up the strike at a range of nearly 50 miles but there is little the Admiral can do. Luckily for the Brits a squadron of 10 Mosquitoes happen to be in the area and are quickly vectored in to attack. The veteran Jacks easily handle the British FB. For a cost of only 2 Jacks and 1 Randy, the strike attacks the British Fleet.
Though AA is thick around the formation, the Japanese attack from all heights and employ dive-bombing, torpedo bombing, and crash diving. Very quickly the Howe becomes the center of a smoking maelstrom of attacking Japanese planes.
Nicks and Randys repeatedly crash into the new battleship. AA fire becomes more sporadic as the attack continues. In the midst of it the Frances crews slams 2 Torpedoes into the vulnerable Port flank of the great ship. Not to be outdone the Judy Chutai scores a hit as well. Within 10 minutes the battle is over with all the Japanese FB destroyed and the Howe is clearly staggered from 11 Kamikazes slamming into her.
Off the Port side of the formation the Light Cruiser Ceylon has also taken a Kamikaze.
As the attack begins to wind down the Admiral attempts to rally his shaken crew when the radar operator cries out that another formation of planes is rapidly approaching from the SE at a low level. With a sickening sensation the Admiral realizes that it isn't over yet...
Indeed it isn't.
Following the amplified messages of the contact report, a group of Elite torpedo bombers has left Aparri and seeks to finish the job so well begun by the earlier strike. Arranged to the left and right of his view are 9 Frances and 37 Peggy torpedo planes. They are piloted by elite bomber crews that have flown together for years.
Smoke betrays the British formation and the Japanese quickly move in to capitalize on the confusion of the previous attack. The Britsh get the 8 surviving Mosquitoes vectored into an attack but they have a hard time following the quick Japanese planes. The FB shot down only 2 planes before the attack commences.
Commander Owara orders the Frances to concentrate on the damaged battleship and reminds all the rest of his crews to hit OTHER ships then just the BB! The assault is masterfully carried out as the hammer-and-anvil attack works to perfection.
Torpedoes begin to criss-cross the Allied formation.
Cruiser after cruiser takes torpedoes. Throughout the British TF large explosions echos back-and-forth. CA Cumberland takes a Torp, the damaged CL Ceylon gets one, and the big CL Birmingham staggers out of formation from a hit.
At the center of the attack the Japanese release 18 of their precious cargo at the burning Howe. With jubilant calls of hit and hit again the pilots watch as FOUR more underwater missiles slam into the the battlewagon slowing it to a halt.
Having lost just 8 bombers total Commander Owara knows that this single attack has cut Britsh heavy strength by better then half!
Weather closes in during the afternoon but one strike of 6 Frances and 12 Peggy (Aparri again)find the burning CA Cumberland and CL Birmingham. Each ship takes another Torpedo at the cost of a single bomber.
Thus closes one heck of a pleasant day for the Empire of Japan! The Tiger still has teeth BABY! [8D][:D][8D]
West of Hong Kong
The Flagship of the British Fleet is the HMS Howe. This is a modern KGV-Class BB and it has been working the Malaya and Indochina Theatre for about 3 months now. The warship sails at the center of a defensive ring comprising BB Howe, BB Valiant, CA Cumberland, 5 CL, and 10 DD.
The morning dawns with about 75% overcast as the Admiral reads about the good news coming from the Hong Kong invasion forces. He has decided to pull away from the LR CAP over Hong Kong for reasons known only to him. It shouldn't be any concern since the Japanese have been pretty docile over the last few months...
This illusion is shattered within about 90 minutes of time.
Flying in from Amoy is the first large Kamikaze Strike Force of the war. A baker's dozen Jacks protect 59 Randy/Nicks suicide planes, 8 Elite Frances TB, and 9 Judy DB. The Japanese Strike Commander divides his suicide planes with one group hugging the wavetops at 1,000 Ft and the other flying at 31,000 Ft. The rest of the formation flies at various altitudes.
The Commander wisely ignores the battle going on at Hong Kong. Though there are dozens of AK/AP, he hunts larger game. Additionally, he has little desire to tangle with the nearly 100 Allied Fighters flying over Hong Kong. Guided by his recon planes, he finds the British Surface Task Force...
Radar picks up the strike at a range of nearly 50 miles but there is little the Admiral can do. Luckily for the Brits a squadron of 10 Mosquitoes happen to be in the area and are quickly vectored in to attack. The veteran Jacks easily handle the British FB. For a cost of only 2 Jacks and 1 Randy, the strike attacks the British Fleet.
Though AA is thick around the formation, the Japanese attack from all heights and employ dive-bombing, torpedo bombing, and crash diving. Very quickly the Howe becomes the center of a smoking maelstrom of attacking Japanese planes.
Nicks and Randys repeatedly crash into the new battleship. AA fire becomes more sporadic as the attack continues. In the midst of it the Frances crews slams 2 Torpedoes into the vulnerable Port flank of the great ship. Not to be outdone the Judy Chutai scores a hit as well. Within 10 minutes the battle is over with all the Japanese FB destroyed and the Howe is clearly staggered from 11 Kamikazes slamming into her.
Off the Port side of the formation the Light Cruiser Ceylon has also taken a Kamikaze.
As the attack begins to wind down the Admiral attempts to rally his shaken crew when the radar operator cries out that another formation of planes is rapidly approaching from the SE at a low level. With a sickening sensation the Admiral realizes that it isn't over yet...
Indeed it isn't.
Following the amplified messages of the contact report, a group of Elite torpedo bombers has left Aparri and seeks to finish the job so well begun by the earlier strike. Arranged to the left and right of his view are 9 Frances and 37 Peggy torpedo planes. They are piloted by elite bomber crews that have flown together for years.
Smoke betrays the British formation and the Japanese quickly move in to capitalize on the confusion of the previous attack. The Britsh get the 8 surviving Mosquitoes vectored into an attack but they have a hard time following the quick Japanese planes. The FB shot down only 2 planes before the attack commences.
Commander Owara orders the Frances to concentrate on the damaged battleship and reminds all the rest of his crews to hit OTHER ships then just the BB! The assault is masterfully carried out as the hammer-and-anvil attack works to perfection.
Torpedoes begin to criss-cross the Allied formation.
Cruiser after cruiser takes torpedoes. Throughout the British TF large explosions echos back-and-forth. CA Cumberland takes a Torp, the damaged CL Ceylon gets one, and the big CL Birmingham staggers out of formation from a hit.
At the center of the attack the Japanese release 18 of their precious cargo at the burning Howe. With jubilant calls of hit and hit again the pilots watch as FOUR more underwater missiles slam into the the battlewagon slowing it to a halt.
Having lost just 8 bombers total Commander Owara knows that this single attack has cut Britsh heavy strength by better then half!
Weather closes in during the afternoon but one strike of 6 Frances and 12 Peggy (Aparri again)find the burning CA Cumberland and CL Birmingham. Each ship takes another Torpedo at the cost of a single bomber.
Thus closes one heck of a pleasant day for the Empire of Japan! The Tiger still has teeth BABY! [8D][:D][8D]
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RE: Gravediggers!
ORIGINAL: SierraJuliet
Guys… good digression.[:)] Guess I’ll have to hunt down a copy of KH and bring myself up to speed. The delving into the dictionary has been fun too but what does EmCon. mean?
One has not experienced life until one watches Kelly's Heroes! Marvelous film with a monster cast...
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Meanwhile...
Port Moresby
October 6, 1944
On the same day that the Japanese score their successes against the British Fleet, another successful day plays out near Port Moresby. Numerous Allied ships have been damaged by heavy CD fire and are slowly retreating towards Australia. Freshly flown into Lae and Rabaul are three Daitai/Sentai of Peggy and Frances.
Most of these planes sweep over the concentration of Allied shipping to attack damaged stragglers. Flying in small waves of 8-12 planes, six AK are hit with anywhere between one to three Torpedos. Three of them sink during the day with more heading down tomorrow.
Perhaps the pickings will be just as good tomorrow...
October 6, 1944
On the same day that the Japanese score their successes against the British Fleet, another successful day plays out near Port Moresby. Numerous Allied ships have been damaged by heavy CD fire and are slowly retreating towards Australia. Freshly flown into Lae and Rabaul are three Daitai/Sentai of Peggy and Frances.
Most of these planes sweep over the concentration of Allied shipping to attack damaged stragglers. Flying in small waves of 8-12 planes, six AK are hit with anywhere between one to three Torpedos. Three of them sink during the day with more heading down tomorrow.
Perhaps the pickings will be just as good tomorrow...
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SierraJuliet
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RE: Meanwhile...
Thanks Mad66.... I understand now..... all the carrier pigeons have returned to Akagi [:D]
Wow John.... a hugely successful coordinated kamikaze and torpedo bomber strike. A please explain must be on the way from the Admiralty.
Wow John.... a hugely successful coordinated kamikaze and torpedo bomber strike. A please explain must be on the way from the Admiralty.
Kido Butai, although powerful, was a raiding force, and this is exactly how the Japanese understood its usage. 'Shattered Sword'
RE: Meanwhile...
Sometimes luck still travels with the Japanese.
Trying to capitalize, I vector in 2 SS to try and finish Howe. Remember the fate of her sister ship Prince of Wales??? THAT would be nice to claim another BB before the end of the war.
Trying to capitalize, I vector in 2 SS to try and finish Howe. Remember the fate of her sister ship Prince of Wales??? THAT would be nice to claim another BB before the end of the war.
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ny59giants
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RE: Meanwhile...
I know it makes John feel good to sink a few BBs at this point, but the Allies have so many of them, they will not miss a few. In a role reversal, the sinking of transports with troops is more important, IMO. As a AFB, I want my LBA to sink transports early in the war and leave the CA/BB alone.
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RE: Meanwhile...
Nonesense. As a JFB we leave the transports to our women and children! Banzai!![:D]
Derek
RE: Meanwhile...
ORIGINAL: ny59giants
I know it makes John feel good to sink a few BBs at this point, but the Allies have so many of them, they will not miss a few. In a role reversal, the sinking of transports with troops is more important, IMO. As a AFB, I want my LBA to sink transports early in the war and leave the CA/BB alone.
I am simply HAPPY to get a sinking! The fact that it is a BB is even better.
I've sunk 600+ AK/AP for no difference...
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RE: Meanwhile...
ORIGINAL: dekwik
Nonesense. As a JFB we leave the transports to our women and children! Banzai!![:D]
That is the SPIRIT!
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Lord Churchill
To: Prime Minister Winston Churchill
From: C-in-C Far Eastern Fleet
RE: HMS Howe
I am sorry to inform you of the sinking of HMS Howe. As our Chinese troops captured Hong Kong the crew made every effort to keep her afloat until the Port could be cleared. Unfortunately the damage taken from all those Kamikazes and Torpedoes proved to be too much for the ship to bear. The Flagship sank just 10 miles from the Port of Hong Kong. The only good news in this missive is that the vast majority of the crew coducted themselves well in performing a flawless evacuation of the ship with light losses.
From: C-in-C Far Eastern Fleet
From: C-in-C Far Eastern Fleet
RE: HMS Howe
I am sorry to inform you of the sinking of HMS Howe. As our Chinese troops captured Hong Kong the crew made every effort to keep her afloat until the Port could be cleared. Unfortunately the damage taken from all those Kamikazes and Torpedoes proved to be too much for the ship to bear. The Flagship sank just 10 miles from the Port of Hong Kong. The only good news in this missive is that the vast majority of the crew coducted themselves well in performing a flawless evacuation of the ship with light losses.
From: C-in-C Far Eastern Fleet
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Port Moresby
October 7, 1944
Port Moresby, New Guinea
"Where the HELL are all these torpedo bombers coming from Commander" demands the Admiral in charge of landing the Australian troops at Port Moresby.
The unfortunate Commander cringes as his Admiral's temper flares for the 3rd time this day. "Sir. Intelligence reports that the Japs have flown bombers into Lae as well as Rabaul. While we have CAP, the ships damaged from all that coastal artillery do not."
"Yaa...the bastards are bouncing over our ships and planting torpedo after torpedo into those damaged freightors. I THOUGHT we had aerial sumpremacy here! What is the current count?" A toe tapping on the deck is distinctly heard as the Admiral waits for the news.
"Ahhhh...lets see...yesterday we lost 2 freightors and 1 Transport with another 2 freightors damaged and....lets see...today we have had another 7 hit with 3 going down Sir." The Commander cringes knowing what is about to be said.
"I've lost 6 ships with another 6 damaged! Where the HELL are those damned Army flyboys and their fancy bombers?!! Why aren't they hitting those damned airfields? I am headed for the radio room RIGHT NOW!"
A blistering message is relayed to the Commanding General of the Army Air Force tasked in this area...
Port Moresby, New Guinea
"Where the HELL are all these torpedo bombers coming from Commander" demands the Admiral in charge of landing the Australian troops at Port Moresby.
The unfortunate Commander cringes as his Admiral's temper flares for the 3rd time this day. "Sir. Intelligence reports that the Japs have flown bombers into Lae as well as Rabaul. While we have CAP, the ships damaged from all that coastal artillery do not."
"Yaa...the bastards are bouncing over our ships and planting torpedo after torpedo into those damaged freightors. I THOUGHT we had aerial sumpremacy here! What is the current count?" A toe tapping on the deck is distinctly heard as the Admiral waits for the news.
"Ahhhh...lets see...yesterday we lost 2 freightors and 1 Transport with another 2 freightors damaged and....lets see...today we have had another 7 hit with 3 going down Sir." The Commander cringes knowing what is about to be said.
"I've lost 6 ships with another 6 damaged! Where the HELL are those damned Army flyboys and their fancy bombers?!! Why aren't they hitting those damned airfields? I am headed for the radio room RIGHT NOW!"
A blistering message is relayed to the Commanding General of the Army Air Force tasked in this area...
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khyberbill
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RE: Gravediggers!
I saw it right after it came out in Denver when I was home on leave from the Navy. I now try to watch it every year along with American Graffiti, Blazing Saddles, and Lawrence of Arabia.One has not experienced life until one watches Kelly's Heroes! Marvelous film with a monster cast...
"Its a dog eat dog world Sammy and I am wearing Milkbone underwear" -Norm.
RE: Gravediggers!
That is the spirit. I truly love hearing that song at the beginning, middle, and end of the film. Burning Bridges ROCKS!
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RE: Aerial Might
ORIGINAL: Nemo121
Oddball: It's still up.
FB ZOOMS in.
Moriarty: No it ain't.
P.s. Do YOU have the gravediggers with you? IF you do then I support this strike wholeheartedly.
P.p.s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqSiLL8U3vo Burning Bridges.
Nemo--just needed a pick-me-up and watched this at You Tube. THANKS!
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