With all due respect..................

[Tactics]

My bank is open on Saturdays until 1pm. But what does Saturday have to do with Friday, you do work that day, don't you?

By the way, you still have that craptastic skidding on the dirt bug from that piece of garbage game Close Combat Modern Tactics. You know, that bug that is from November of 2007

GG Matrix!

[Andrew Williams]

I'd better switch banks!

[TDeacon]

Looking forward to the patch.

Of course the sooner we get it the better, but the main thing is that Matrix is willing to work with the community to address these issues in a patch, and I am very appreciative of that. The list of changes posted by Andrew appears to involve numerous code changes, and not just database changes. I am particularly appreciative of this effort on their part, because it stands in contrast to the lack of response to my "too-many-night-battles" code change request for WPO a year or 2 ago.

Also, please note that software engineers (I am one BTW, but for cell phones), have lives (or try to have them), so forcing us to always work weekends is mean.

So good job on WaR, Matrix, and I hope that you sell a sufficient number of copies of WaR to justify continued patch support (including fixing the entrenchments issue)!!!

(BTW, I finally convinced my friend Larry to buy WaR yesterday, in part based on this commitment to improvement).

[Platoon_Michael]

Sorry I still dont understand your post Andrew.
Is that BGLEADER pic an update for WAR or for Classic CCIV?

I'm just thinking out loud here but would it be possible for the game to display what AI units have support?
I havent played H2H yet  is that something thats visable in H2H?
And to whom it may concern thank- you very much for the updated map .ovm and .mmm files found here.

http://closecombat.matrixgames.com/WaR/WaRmods.html

[Tejszd]

The leader pictures for WAR were turned off, but CC4 and many mods have pictures so for these items which are installed in their own sub directory (they start the exe using /d option) pictures will appear.

[Platoon_Michael]

wow,
The wait for this one sure should be good.(considering how long the game has been out)
I hope I dont have to buy a new hard drive just to install the next patch.

[sol_invictus]

Yes, this is epic. In a bad sort of way.[:(]

[Platoon_Michael]

I had to go look for the original date but it was October 29th 2008 when the game came out.
Almost 4 months ago.

Who knows,maybe they are fixing everything and we will be "Just like Peas & Carrots" Jenny and I
Gosh knows I didnt post everything I dont like here,but I posted it.

[kwverdon]

Yes, the patch is starting to look VERY much like Vaporware [:@]  There is more fog surrounding its release than the first day of the battle it is supposed to depict!  Of course since Matrix already has our $$ our priority is less than new sales so we get back-burnered.  I can accept that for cosmetic or minor patch details but for the campaign killing bugs in the game its rather poor practice.

[Platoon_Michael]

I started another GC last week (this time as the Allies) and while I havent gone as far as before I'm not having that problem (yet) Ofcourse I dnt expect it as I think it was due mostly to whooping the AI's arse forcing them off the map.
 
I dont know Matrix's policy's on games but I hope this isnt the last Hurrahh for WAR.

[e_barkmann]

Of course since Matrix already has our $$ our priority is less than new sales so we get back-burnered.

Since you state this as fact, could you please cite a Matrix source for this information.

Thanks.

[kwverdon]

Sure:  In another thread Erik Rutkins said "Sorry guys, we are simply not going to make it this week. The COG: EE release took too many resources."
 
He then goes on to say that it would be a priority this week but given the fact that nothing has materialised and there has been no new word from them it would appear we are still on the back burner.  They are too busy with COG: EE. 
 
Kevin

[e_barkmann]

Your statement is making a big assumption regarding Matrix' business ethics that is not reflected in the statement you quoted.

I don't agree at all with you.

[Andrew Williams]

I've just had the latest version of the patch

There have been technical difficulties with the installer, not with the data that effects WaR but other peripheral parts of the installer program.

matrix people are working on it and we hope it will be ready shortly.

[kwverdon]

Chris,

That's fine, we can agree to disagree.  I'll agree that Matrix has limitted resources however they focused their resources on a yet to be released game instead of supporting the folks that has already purchased a product from them. They could have either focused their resources into the patch for CCWAR or the release of  COG:EE, they chose COG:EE. They could have chosen to delay the release of COG:EE 1 week or the patch for CCWAR, they chose to delay the patch for CCWAR, the facts speak for themselves. That appears to be the way the "game" is played.  I just don't happen to like it. 

Kevin

[e_barkmann]

Kevin,

I'd probably be more sympathetic to your argument if I felt there were showstopper bugs in the current release of the game. I'd be plenty annoyed in a case where a patch had been delayed over the release of a new game and I wasn't able to play the game.

However, in this case we're getting plenty of something for nothing.

[TDeacon]

Hi Chris,

Based on my initial readings on these boards, and based on my (limited) intial experience with WaR, there seem to be some major bugs in the campaign game, and of course the campaign game is one of the main attractions.  (Note that the multiplayer campaign thread seems to indicate that they are waiting for the patch, prior to starting). Some bugs that come to mind are the empty battlegroup bug, and the way that BG strength levels seem to be for the most part hard-coded (because of the current reinforcement behavior) throught the campaign.  These bugs are stated to be fixed in the upcoming patch.  Note that although I just recently bought WaR, some of these guys apparently bought it months ago, and probably their frustration stems from that. 

My personal perspective is that although I am unhappy that these bugs exist (which suggest that the campaign should have been playtested better), I am happy that Matrix is apparently working to fix these bugs (based on Andrew's bug fix list for the next patch), and am hoping that it will come out soon.  The patch progress updates that Andrew provides are helpful. 

[sol_invictus]

Best thing to do in situations like this is to just play another game and put the patch out of mind.

[advo]

People! Excuse, I badly understand English
Whether correctly I have understood - the patch will not be?

[Andrew Williams]

The patch is all but ready

There are just a couple of technical problems with the installer that are being worked on by the Matrix crew.


thanks for your patience.