Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
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RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
Hmm, storms for an entire month (turns are 1 mo iirc ?) over that big an area, and in June or July ? Isn't that a bit out of whack ?
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RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
No in May/June the impulses would roughly represent somewhere between 10 days and two weeks of real time.
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RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
Turns are two months. Within each turn there are multiple impulses. Every two impulses have the same weather (e.g., 1 & 2, 3 & 4, etc.).ORIGINAL: PDiFolco
Hmm, storms for an entire month (turns are 1 mo iirc ?) over that big an area, and in June or July ? Isn't that a bit out of whack ?
So, if there are 12 impulses in a summer turn, there are 6 weather rolls. The previous weather roll maybe slightly bias the next roll towards the weather staying the same.
Steve
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RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
At the same time on the southern front the German troops are stuck in the mud created by the storm. The railway lines lessens the effect of the mud and the the armor spearheads has used that to advance.

Picture taken at Axis Land Combat declaration. May/june 41. Impulse 3. Note that the option "Railway movement bonus" is in effect.

Picture taken at Axis Land Combat declaration. May/june 41. Impulse 3. Note that the option "Railway movement bonus" is in effect.
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RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
Red Army tanks within range of the Luftwaffe in 1941 is, well, we'll see I guess. Was this one set up with the 25 units within two hexes rule?
p.s. not sure if you were looking for comments from the Peanut Gallery. Thanks for the Ukraine shot though, we all need to be ready for that big argument about which way to turn when they get to Albuquerque.
p.s. not sure if you were looking for comments from the Peanut Gallery. Thanks for the Ukraine shot though, we all need to be ready for that big argument about which way to turn when they get to Albuquerque.
RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
Just a few questions bout the screen shot in post # 24
Rumanian units are marked up s ROM? I guess this is becuse we are trying to replicate the original bordgame counters but is it really necesary for the PC game? The counters would look much nicer and less cluttered without this.
Some units have an R in top right? eg Russian 4th Cavalry in Odessa and Rumanian Cernauti Militia. I gues this is needed for gameplay and serves a key purpose? So this can't be removed either? (sorry but its a long time since I looked at WIF)
Lastly the Resource marker at Krivy Rog partially obscures the national flag used to track ownership. No big deal as I guess Krivoy Rog can be moved slightly.
Rumanian units are marked up s ROM? I guess this is becuse we are trying to replicate the original bordgame counters but is it really necesary for the PC game? The counters would look much nicer and less cluttered without this.
Some units have an R in top right? eg Russian 4th Cavalry in Odessa and Rumanian Cernauti Militia. I gues this is needed for gameplay and serves a key purpose? So this can't be removed either? (sorry but its a long time since I looked at WIF)
Lastly the Resource marker at Krivy Rog partially obscures the national flag used to track ownership. No big deal as I guess Krivoy Rog can be moved slightly.
RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
ORIGINAL: brian brian
Red Army tanks within range of the Luftwaffe in 1941 is, well, we'll see I guess. Was this one set up with the 25 units within two hexes rule?
p.s. not sure if you were looking for comments from the Peanut Gallery. Thanks for the Ukraine shot though, we all need to be ready for that big argument about which way to turn when they get to Albuquerque.
The 2 German bombers in Rumania are disorganized and can't be used again this turn. The Soviet tanks were set out of range from ground strikes the first impulse but was moved forward to slow the german advance. The Red Army has to few units since alot got caught at the border so most units are needed in the front line. Barbarossa is only 5 turns long so it makes little point in saving units for 1942.
And all comments are welcome. [:)]
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RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
All units from minor countries have a 3 letter abbreviation on them. While for experienced WIF players that may be redundant information, for new players it is likely to be essential. There is also the question of players who have trouble differentiating colors. That motivates my preference for redundant information rather than relying exclusively on color coding.ORIGINAL: Plain Ian
Just a few questions bout the screen shot in post # 24
Rumanian units are marked up s ROM? I guess this is becuse we are trying to replicate the original bordgame counters but is it really necesary for the PC game? The counters would look much nicer and less cluttered without this.
Some units have an R in top right? eg Russian 4th Cavalry in Odessa and Rumanian Cernauti Militia. I gues this is needed for gameplay and serves a key purpose? So this can't be removed either? (sorry but its a long time since I looked at WIF)
Lastly the Resource marker at Krivy Rog partially obscures the national flag used to track ownership. No big deal as I guess Krivoy Rog can be moved slightly.
The R in the upper right corner denotes a reserve unit. That information is important at times (e.g., when peace breaks out, reserve units are removed from the map), though not in this situation.
National flags indicating hex control can be toggled on and off, but the decision was made (by me) that resource markers are more important during game play than flags. If you are unsure about who controls a hex, moving the cursor over it brings up that information in the Main form (Orm has cropped that portion of the screen - probably to allow for showing a better image of the map).
Steve
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RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
Weather is finaly clear. Luftwaffe launches a massive bomb campaign on the Soviet front units. Heroic Soviet fighters launch against the bombers and fight past the German escorts and aborts most of the German bombers. The few bombers who clears to their targets fail to disorganize anything at all. Due to the failure of Luftwaffe Wehrmacht decides to try to infiltrate the Soviet lines instead of a headon attack.

Picture taken at Axis Land Combat declaration. May/june 41. Impulse 7.

Picture taken at Axis Land Combat declaration. May/june 41. Impulse 7.
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RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
ORIGINAL: Orm
Weather is finaly clear. Luftwaffe launches a massive bomb campaign on the Soviet front units. Heroic Soviet fighters launch against the bombers and fight past the German escorts and aborts most of the German bombers. The few bombers who clears to their targets fail to disorganize anything at all. Due to the failure of Luftwaffe Wehrmacht decides to try to infiltrate the Soviet lines instead of a headon attack.
Picture taken at Axis Land Combat declaration. May/june 41. Impulse 7.
What do those green boxes around some of the German units indicate?
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RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
ORIGINAL: jjax
What do those green boxes around some of the German units indicate?
It means that those German units can be selected to attack Soviet Units. All land units next to an enemy unit have a green box around them in this step unless they are commited to attack.
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett
A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
OOOOH. Cool. I can't WAIT for the game...
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: jjax
What do those green boxes around some of the German units indicate?
It means that those German units can be selected to attack Soviet Units. All land units next to an enemy unit have a green box around them in this step unless they are commited to attack.
RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
ORIGINAL: Vorsteher
any update ?
I will try to make an update the coming weekend.
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett
A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
Germany launches his last bombers in an effort to disorganize the Soviet defenders but fail miserably. Germany lose 3 bombers and 2 fighters against only 2 fighters lost for USSR. Germany fails to disorganize any units at all as all German bombers was shot down. [:@] Germany therefore cancels the intended attack on Vitbesk.

Picture taken at Axis Land Combat declaration. May/june 41. Impulse 9.

Picture taken at Axis Land Combat declaration. May/june 41. Impulse 9.
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RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
Seems like the Germans already regret the invasion of USSR.[:'(]
RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
ORIGINAL: bredsjomagnus
Seems like the Germans already regret the invasion of USSR.[:'(]
That's the kind of Barbarossa I would like to face as a soviet player.
Michel Desjardins,
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RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
ORIGINAL: micheljq
ORIGINAL: bredsjomagnus
Seems like the Germans already regret the invasion of USSR.[:'(]
That's the kind of Barbarossa I would like to face as a soviet player.
This is normally how it goes for me as the Germans against the French...sigh.
RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
What about the Ukraine, anything exciting going on? [:)]
RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures
ORIGINAL: oscar72se
What about the Ukraine, anything exciting going on? [:)]
What fails in the center works in the south. An assault on Odessa and Kiev is imminent.
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett
A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
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