Forlorn Hopes: The Japanese Respond
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- ny59giants
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RE: The Towel....NOT!!
Sir John,
We both know that your stress level will continue to climb until your court date in May. This PBEM and your 2x2 offer a source of stress relief to you. Lessons from this game are being used in your other game. I think I can safely say that we both play this game to have fun and learn. The outcome is no longer in doubt, but I hear the excitement in your voice when you report how effective your kamazikes strikes were even if you lose all those planes. KB is mostly intact and has at least another mission left in her.
I say fight on and see if Dan is willing to try to invade any part of the Home Islands.
We both know that your stress level will continue to climb until your court date in May. This PBEM and your 2x2 offer a source of stress relief to you. Lessons from this game are being used in your other game. I think I can safely say that we both play this game to have fun and learn. The outcome is no longer in doubt, but I hear the excitement in your voice when you report how effective your kamazikes strikes were even if you lose all those planes. KB is mostly intact and has at least another mission left in her.
I say fight on and see if Dan is willing to try to invade any part of the Home Islands.
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ORIGINAL: EWGuttag
John 3rd,
Do enjoy the snowfall and make sure to take a "deep breath." And the answer to your question is this: are you still having fun and/or getting something important out of continuting on with Dan, even with what looks like to you as a "hopeless" situation? If not, throwing in the towel (after what looks like to me as a "great fight" with Dan) isn't a bad choice. One thing to remember is this is a game, not the end of the world. (And from your other posts, you've had to deal with much more significant issues than this.) Also, I suspect you've got more WitP games in you after this one with Dan is over. Most importantly, please be at peace with yourself, whatever you decide, and God Bless. And definitely enjoy that snowfall!
I am an emotional sop and this email really touched me--THANKS! You are correct on nearly all accounts.

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RE: The Towel
ORIGINAL: Nemo121
John, yeah you could be both but I doubt you are [:D]
As to my advice... Well it's like i tell my patients. "I promise to always give you an honest answer but that means you often won't like what I tell you."
In the end though we benefit more from good advice than pleasant advice... and so I make my choices accordingly.
As long as the 'treatment' is healthy I TOTALLY concur regarding advice! Excluding my Bi-Polarness I always enjoy/dread seeing a post from you!

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RE: The Towel....NOT!!
ORIGINAL: ny59giants
Sir John,
We both know that your stress level will continue to climb until your court date in May. This PBEM and your 2x2 offer a source of stress relief to you. Lessons from this game are being used in your other game. I think I can safely say that we both play this game to have fun and learn. The outcome is no longer in doubt, but I hear the excitement in your voice when you report how effective your kamazikes strikes were even if you lose all those planes. KB is mostly intact and has at least another mission left in her.
I say fight on and see if Dan is willing to try to invade any part of the Home Islands.
The KB does have one Mission left and I have planned accordingly with100,000 Fuel and over 30,000 supply in Palau to replace my losses and fuel. Another 80,000 sits at Marcus ready for use fuel-wise. Lord help any shipping sailing across the Pacific with 20 CV on the lose! (that was some very weak fighting spirit)
I thoroughly expect to lose my Hearing on the 13th and then be in Jail. It is the GOOD fight though. My lovely and steadfast Paula will then post onto the AARs at that point to let everyone know.

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The Towel...
WHO the heck changed my message banner to..."NOT!" [:D][:D][:D] It provided a laugh...

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RE: The Towel...
John
It's good to prepare for the worst and then maybe get a huge & pleasant surprise. It's good to have family stand by you when you need it the most.
Never throw in the towel in a game, or life, as long as there's "forlorn hopes". You can offer a surrender and then only if accepted by your oponent will the game end. It would be a crime to give up with the KB still at large only to be doomed to destruction at Bikini Atoll in an A bomb test.
It's good to prepare for the worst and then maybe get a huge & pleasant surprise. It's good to have family stand by you when you need it the most.
Never throw in the towel in a game, or life, as long as there's "forlorn hopes". You can offer a surrender and then only if accepted by your oponent will the game end. It would be a crime to give up with the KB still at large only to be doomed to destruction at Bikini Atoll in an A bomb test.
Todd
I never thought that doing an AAR would be so time consuming and difficult.
www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2080768
I never thought that doing an AAR would be so time consuming and difficult.
www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2080768
RE: The Towel...
John 3rd,
Glad to be of help. All of us (that includes me) can be "emotional sops" when the stress level get's high enough about something we care about. Last week, I was a "basket-case" about a particular appellate court decision that evidenced to me a naive and unrealstic view (yes, in "real life," I'm an attorney doing primarily patent application drafting); this week I realized even with that awful decision, there was still hope that justice might yet prevail when that case returns to the lower district court. Keep your chin up and remember there's a difference between "victory" and "winning in life"; the latter is what counts. Good hunting and Tallyho!
Glad to be of help. All of us (that includes me) can be "emotional sops" when the stress level get's high enough about something we care about. Last week, I was a "basket-case" about a particular appellate court decision that evidenced to me a naive and unrealstic view (yes, in "real life," I'm an attorney doing primarily patent application drafting); this week I realized even with that awful decision, there was still hope that justice might yet prevail when that case returns to the lower district court. Keep your chin up and remember there's a difference between "victory" and "winning in life"; the latter is what counts. Good hunting and Tallyho!
/Eric W. Guttag/
RE: The Towel...
It has been my experience over the last two years that JUSTICE is a "unique point-of-view" (as Sarek might say) and truth has little relevance. I've been straight here and have been blessed with a number of friends through the Forum. Dan, Michael, and Paul Layne have all seen various portions of my case and know the BS level that is associated with it. I am preparing fro the worst and PRAYING for anything better. So we shall see but that is six weeks from now...
Dan and I have had a pleasant email going back-and-forth today so he understands and is fully aware of things.
Dan and I have had a pleasant email going back-and-forth today so he understands and is fully aware of things.

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RE: The Towel...
The key to the law and justice is that lawyers and judges "practice law" NOT justice.
Ideally there's a confluence between what laws prescribe and proscribe and what justice dictates but this isn't always so.
Ideally there's a confluence between what laws prescribe and proscribe and what justice dictates but this isn't always so.
John Dillworth: "I had GreyJoy check my spelling and he said it was fine."
Well, that's that settled then.
Well, that's that settled then.
RE: The Towel...
Alright I have taken 3 days off and plan to renew the war but at a slower pace of a turn a day. Don't know how long this will go but would like to get into 1945 and see the story unfold some more...

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RE: The Towel...
80,000 Hits. Just noticed that. You guys are great!

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RE: The Towel...
John,
isn't that another reason not to throw the towel ? If you continue just a bit longer, you may hit the 100000 hit threshold [;)]
Thanks for the work to keep this an interesting read for so many of us.
Hartwig
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
80,000 Hits. Just noticed that. You guys are great!
isn't that another reason not to throw the towel ? If you continue just a bit longer, you may hit the 100000 hit threshold [;)]
Thanks for the work to keep this an interesting read for so many of us.
Hartwig
RE: The Towel...
Well, my two cents. This has been a great AAR by the both of you. I have learned a great deal about the game and its quirks by following your excellent reports. You can play on if you want but I think it is fine if you two decide to hang it up now. Its been fun.
I am soooooo.......ready for AE to come out.
Thanks.
I am soooooo.......ready for AE to come out.
Thanks.
I am the Holy Roman Emperor and am above grammar.
Sigismund of Luxemburg
Sigismund of Luxemburg
12-8-44
This screenshot summarizes the action for the day. Over 150 Kamikaze and Escorts tried to the attack. NONE got through.


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12-8-44
The Fleet is re-concentrated at Palau. I have managed to rob enough supply to get the base up to 29,000 and so I've replaced losses as well as upgraded a few Daitai. All ships are fully fueled with about 50,000 fuel left over.
The destination will next be Marcus. It is my hope to get there undetected. Will refuel there (100,000 waiting) and move into the Central/North Pacific. The Fleet is still formidable and carries a good punch. Perhaps I can find a couple of convoys and do some damage.
I will form the Fleet up into 4 TF and they will operate in one hex to start with and then split them into two pairs spread by about 4 hexes. With the range of aircraft should enable me to cover a swath of about 16-18 hexes as we move...
The destination will next be Marcus. It is my hope to get there undetected. Will refuel there (100,000 waiting) and move into the Central/North Pacific. The Fleet is still formidable and carries a good punch. Perhaps I can find a couple of convoys and do some damage.
I will form the Fleet up into 4 TF and they will operate in one hex to start with and then split them into two pairs spread by about 4 hexes. With the range of aircraft should enable me to cover a swath of about 16-18 hexes as we move...

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RE: 12-8-44
That is the Bushido spirit! Reform and try again.
If you are thinking of throwing in the towell, at least go out in a blaze of glory; one last death-ride for the AAR!
If you are thinking of throwing in the towell, at least go out in a blaze of glory; one last death-ride for the AAR!
RE: 12-8-44
A raid on pearl of San Francisco might actually work as well; you have to assume he has most of his LBA forward deployed.
RE: 12-8-44
ORIGINAL: pat.casey
A raid on pearl of San Francisco might actually work as well; you have to assume he has most of his LBA forward deployed.
Damn! Consider that this response is from me----THAT IS A CRAZY IDEA!
Therefore...I...like...it...

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